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PKoli
#1471 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2012 10:36:10 PM
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The previous fluctuations must have been due to the announcements that followed the deal. This particular fluctuate did not follow any announcements, else it would have reacted negatively to the sentiments attributed to the PS MoE. I think we might have a mini rally next week.
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guru267
#1472 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2012 11:49:50 PM
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From the looks of things KK is looking to announce the H1 results before announcing the deal..

I have a feeling the results will spook the market into selling to Puma at 17bob definitely
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BGL
#1473 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:22:14 AM
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guru267 wrote:
From the looks of things KK is looking to announce the H1 results before announcing the deal..

I have a feeling the results will spook the market into selling to Puma at 17bob definitely


I will risk all and be an experiment on this deal. I BGL will not be selling. Besides, I have shareholding in many non-listed entities that will never list so KK/PUMA will just be one among many. When all wazuans have received their cheques mimi nitabaki pale pale!!

Not unless they do a hostile take-over in which case you get your cheque whether you want it or not. remember the Glazers takeover of Man Utd where a share jumped 34% to 300pence a share and reluctantly there was no other choice.
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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guru267
#1474 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:32:06 AM
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BGL wrote:
guru267 wrote:
From the looks of things KK is looking to announce the H1 results before announcing the deal..

I have a feeling the results will spook the market into selling to Puma at 17bob definitely


I will risk all and be an experiment on this deal. I BGL will not be selling. Besides, I have shareholding in many non-listed entities that will never list so KK/PUMA will just be one among many. When all wazuans have received their cheques mimi nitabaki pale pale!!

Not unless they do a hostile take-over in which case you get your cheque whether you want it or not. remember the Glazers takeover of Man Utd where a share jumped 34% to 300pence a share and reluctantly there was no other choice.


There is nothing that can force you to sell!!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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BGL
#1475 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:00:04 AM
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guru267 wrote:
BGL wrote:
guru267 wrote:
From the looks of things KK is looking to announce the H1 results before announcing the deal..

I have a feeling the results will spook the market into selling to Puma at 17bob definitely


I will risk all and be an experiment on this deal. I BGL will not be selling. Besides, I have shareholding in many non-listed entities that will never list so KK/PUMA will just be one among many. When all wazuans have received their cheques mimi nitabaki pale pale!!

Not unless they do a hostile take-over in which case you get your cheque whether you want it or not. remember the Glazers takeover of Man Utd where a share jumped 34% to 300pence a share and reluctantly there was no other choice.


There is nothing that can force you to sell!!


@Guru267 You are wrong..... VERY wrong..... it can be forced down your throat. Above a minimum threshold you can do a 'compulsory purchase of all remaining shares'. Just ask any MUFC fan how MUFC was delisted from London Stock Exchange. Or read a summary here. http://www.duncanwil.co.uk/pdfs/manuglazer.pdf
The problem is we do not know what is going on behind the scenes and who is cutting which deals and with who. Mind you Trafigura has been involved in some questionable deals in the past.
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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PKoli
#1476 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:44:08 AM
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guru267 wrote:
From the looks of things KK is looking to announce the H1 results before announcing the deal..

I have a feeling the results will spook the market into selling to Puma at 17bob definitely


I am sure by now PUMA must have already put an offer on the table. What PUMA will pay for might not be affected by HY results. I think there might be some juicy dividends as the process for takeover takes shape.
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mwekez@ji
#1477 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:04:40 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwekezaji, we are not yet out of the woods.
"It has also emerged that
Puma Energy is yet to make its application to the capital markets regulator, which refused to comment on the
deal on grounds that it is yet to receive the takeover application.''
http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/4769ubz/-/index.html

Holding this counter in this period comes with a high beta/risk. The risk return principle will hold true. Good return will come or otherwise. Closely watching the volumes which would mostly reveal the news that have not leaked to the public
Kwani, unaongea like Rich? ... Translate the above into English!


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youcan'tstopusnow
#1478 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 4:10:39 PM
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BGL, nimesoma the document. It states that once the 90 percent threshold was reached, he was free to compulsorily acquire the rest of the shares. Other articles put the figure at 97.6 percent, but that's besides the point. Swali ni does Kenya have a similar threshold?
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Cde Monomotapa
#1479 Posted: : Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:58:19 PM
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guru267 wrote:
From the looks of things KK is looking to announce the H1 results before announcing the deal..

I have a feeling the results will spook the market into selling to Puma at 17bob definitely

Is it that we are hooked to a "salary only" mentality or what? KK is being sold principally on all its (physical + intangible) wealth. Eish...
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BGL
#1480 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:01:02 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
BGL, nimesoma the document. It states that once the 90 percent threshold was reached, he was free to compulsorily acquire the rest of the shares. Other articles put the figure at 97.6 percent, but that's besides the point. Swali ni does Kenya have a similar threshold?


I was answering the comment of @guru and put in an example of a compulsory take-over.

Maybe the people who had invested in Unilever could tell us more of how things are done in Kenya.

Wapi Miguna Miguna to hold brief for minority shareholders and or employees if need be.
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