Wazua
»
Investor
»
Stocks
»
Home Afrika Listing at NSE!
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
|
MugundaMan wrote:rwitre wrote:3. Stocks: Riskier. But if you pick a valuable firm, that meets shareholder needs and consumer demands at the same time- and increase your stake significantly, you get higher gains. cc. long-term gains like for those who got into Safaricom at Sh 2. or fast ones like the famous Black Wednesday where a brave bet by George soros made $1 billion usd in short selling. Or you could pick a monkey and see if it will jump like Orchards did, and hope it doesn't trap your capital like ARM.  There is a world of a difference between gangsta capitalist Soros using insider information to make a killing in the well developed global markets and putting hard earned money on a monkey in our local casino in which most monkeys do not even have the trading volume within which to park a decent amount of cash. Getting out of EVRD for example was hell my broda, on some days I was only able to move 3,000 shares because there was zero buy orders on the demand side for the rest of the day! And the book cooking here is rampant even among the blue chips. As for Safcon, usinichekeshe. Have you compared with those who got into land in dustbowl at the same time of the Safcon IPO? They perhaps did 10 times better! Investment in property (land) and Stocks are not mutually exclusive. You need a diversification of both to maintain liquidity and capital appreciation. Life is short. Live passionately.
|
|
|
Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
|
MugundaMan wrote:rwitre wrote:3. Stocks: Riskier. But if you pick a valuable firm, that meets shareholder needs and consumer demands at the same time- and increase your stake significantly, you get higher gains. cc. long-term gains like for those who got into Safaricom at Sh 2. or fast ones like the famous Black Wednesday where a brave bet by George soros made $1 billion usd in short selling. Or you could pick a monkey and see if it will jump like Orchards did, and hope it doesn't trap your capital like ARM. There is a world of a difference between gangsta capitalist Soros using insider information to make a killing in the well developed global markets and putting hard earned money on a monkey in our local casino in which most monkeys do not even have the trading volume within which to park a decent amount of cash. Getting out of EVRD for example was hell my broda, on some days I was only able to move 3,000 shares because there was zero buy orders on the demand side for the rest of the day! And the book cooking here is rampant even among the blue chips. As for Safcon, usinichekeshe. Have you compared with those who got into land in dustbowl at the same time of the Safcon IPO? They perhaps did 10 times better! Sawa. Benchmark: 10 years. Done a quick Google search and picked the first article 2005 - 2015 Maybe there is another piece with recent statistics on the NSE, but I want a quick sample. 1. Limuru Tea (10yr Rtn: +1158.0%) 2. Jubilee Holdings (10yr Rtn: +743.6%) 3. Centum (10yr Rtn: +676.3%) 4. Diamond Trust Bank (10yr Rtn: +663.9%) 5. Kakuzi (10yr Rtn: +560.4%) Then there's Equity Bank's 314.5%, KCB's 301.1% Nimeona ARM ilikuwa na 425.6%. Good times. Horror story now. But I digress. Find a good stock that delivers value for shareholders, and will meet customer needs- and has room for growth. Buy as much of it as you can. Don't be too greedy. Get out at a good time- or when things get fishy.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
|
MugundaMan wrote:sparkly wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Neveready was less than 2% of my modest assets and the only asset in the casino (NSE). Thanks on the wishes on the mugundas. I have never met a mugunda that has not paid me handsomely over time!  Meaning you sold? Why are you worried what I did or did not do? Discretion is the better part of valour and only a fool does not change his mind when the situation becomes fluid. With all these crazy bargains even of blue chips, it would be crazy of me not to move the cash to better quality bargains (ICDC specifically). You are a fraud my broda . Yaani you sneaked out of Neveready without updating your followers?? Halafu you went into Centum whose main play is high end Migundas? Complete sellout. Life is short. Live passionately.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
|
sparkly wrote:[
Investment in property (land) and Stocks are not mutually exclusive.
You need a diversification of both to maintain liquidity and capital appreciation. Not in this casino NSE of ours jameni. How many people have you read of in the news who have gotten wealthy from stock investments alone? You can count them on ten fingers and they are all long termers. The Kibunga Kimani types. And I bet you if they had put their money in land around the same time they started investing in stocks they would five times as rich! And who says property does not have liquidity and diversification even within the sector? 
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
|
rwitre wrote:MugundaMan wrote:rwitre wrote:3. Stocks: Riskier. But if you pick a valuable firm, that meets shareholder needs and consumer demands at the same time- and increase your stake significantly, you get higher gains. cc. long-term gains like for those who got into Safaricom at Sh 2. or fast ones like the famous Black Wednesday where a brave bet by George soros made $1 billion usd in short selling. Or you could pick a monkey and see if it will jump like Orchards did, and hope it doesn't trap your capital like ARM. There is a world of a difference between gangsta capitalist Soros using insider information to make a killing in the well developed global markets and putting hard earned money on a monkey in our local casino in which most monkeys do not even have the trading volume within which to park a decent amount of cash. Getting out of EVRD for example was hell my broda, on some days I was only able to move 3,000 shares because there was zero buy orders on the demand side for the rest of the day! And the book cooking here is rampant even among the blue chips. As for Safcon, usinichekeshe. Have you compared with those who got into land in dustbowl at the same time of the Safcon IPO? They perhaps did 10 times better! Sawa. Benchmark: 10 years. Done a quick Google search and picked the first article 2005 - 2015 Maybe there is another piece with recent statistics on the NSE, but I want a quick sample. 1. Limuru Tea (10yr Rtn: +1158.0%) 2. Jubilee Holdings (10yr Rtn: +743.6%) 3. Centum (10yr Rtn: +676.3%) 4. Diamond Trust Bank (10yr Rtn: +663.9%) 5. Kakuzi (10yr Rtn: +560.4%) Then there's Equity Bank's 314.5%, KCB's 301.1% Nimeona ARM ilikuwa na 425.6%. Good times. Horror story now. But I digress. Find a good stock that delivers value for shareholders, and will meet customer needs- and has room for growth. Buy as much of it as you can. Don't be too greedy. Get out at a good time- or when things get fishy. Fair enough. But remember hindsight is twenty twenty. I too can give you a simple ROI calculation to do. In 2008 someone bought a 1/8th plot in syokimau for 100k. What is their 10 year ROI today?
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
|
sparkly wrote:You are a fraud my broda . Yaani you sneaked out of Neveready without updating your followers?? Halafu you went into Centum whose main play is high end Migundas? Complete sellout. But who says anyone must be updated about any moves I make? Investment decisions are personal decisions, kila mtu na msalaba yake.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
|
MugundaMan wrote:sparkly wrote:You are a fraud my broda . Yaani you sneaked out of Neveready without updating your followers?? Halafu you went into Centum whose main play is high end Migundas? Complete sellout. But who says anyone must be updated about any moves I make? Investment decisions are personal decisions, kila mtu na msalaba yake. @sparkly, he is the ultimate investment genius who never goes wrong. So when he was cornered by Nevereday he could not agree he was wrong all along. i hope no wazuan is following him blindly in these dustbowl promotions. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
|
MugundaMan wrote:sparkly wrote:You are a fraud my broda . Yaani you sneaked out of Neveready without updating your followers?? Halafu you went into Centum whose main play is high end Migundas? Complete sellout. But who says anyone must be updated about any moves I make? Investment decisions are personal decisions, kila mtu na msalaba yake. In wazua, we are more open.. Its not mandatory, but the aim is to help others out or atleast give indication
KQ ABP 4.26
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
|
obiero wrote:MugundaMan wrote:sparkly wrote:You are a fraud my broda . Yaani you sneaked out of Neveready without updating your followers?? Halafu you went into Centum whose main play is high end Migundas? Complete sellout. But who says anyone must be updated about any moves I make? Investment decisions are personal decisions, kila mtu na msalaba yake. In wazua, we are more open.. Its not mandatory, but the aim is to help others out or atleast give indication Wacha kuosha kuku mguu, zero sum game. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,212 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
|
Angelica_anne wrote:@sparkly, he is the ultimate investment genius who never goes wrong. Thanks for the very kind compliment I know you are still stung bitterly by my peeling back the mask of your darling monkey HAFR lakini Utapona Tu
|
|
|
Wazua
»
Investor
»
Stocks
»
Home Afrika Listing at NSE!
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
|