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hisah
#2781 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:21:46 AM
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Wondergirl wrote:
hisah wrote:
kazee wrote:
hisah wrote:
Mpesa bank back to 5.80 stage (former resistance now turned support). Consolidation then a move back to the highs since the selling is on light volume. Member continues to see heavy turnover for 2 weeks now with the price still stable exdiv. I expect member to rally more than KCB this year. AK positioning points to a move higher.

As for my trades - CFCI is within striking distance of my target @10.50 while JHL is slowly working towards 250.

Near term risk - locally - election case while globally - Cyprus throwing a nasty spanner into the works.



@Hisah. CFCI appears to have found its resistance at 10.0. A slide down appears to have started

The bus has encountered a puncture. No worries, the journey will resume.


Hisah,
What do you think is the fair price for CFCI?
Is it too late for a damsel to ride on it for the medium term?

My target price is 10.50 for my trade setup. If you aim for the same let the price slide lower to 8.50 - 8.80. Please note that my picks are usually short term trades since I'm a trader. For more valuation (value investing) @deal, @guru, @vvs, @mwekezaji, @aguy, @stockmaster, @youcant and many more can help out.
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#2782 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:31:54 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
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@aguy let me listen to my instincts and see if i can follow suit.


Careful though. I was here purely for speculation purposes and it rallied even beyond my targets. I didn't sell coz of any other reason. If i trusted management i could have held on for longer.

Diplomacy calls for speculation to be referred to as trading smile

@aguy became a trader for a moment smile or @aguy became a speculator for a moment.

Speculator vs trader, me thinks the latter sounds better smile

In some certain global quarters the term speculator would make one be 'given the eye' smile
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#2783 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:29:38 AM
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Tomorrow is the last trading day for Q1 2013. If NSE20 closes above 4700 it'll be up 6% plus for the month and 13% plus in 2013 (YTD). Quite a solid performance will that sizable election barrier.

Still the election veil is hanging around since Nov 2012, which I expect to be cleared once the courts are done with the ruling. I'm sure fund managers that missed the 5 month ride will load up as soon as the veil is lifted. Will wanjikus be able to catch up that fast moving bus?

I continue putting my skin on the line and patiently wait for that stampede, which had a preview 2 weeks back.
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#2784 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:11:04 AM
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Anyone noticed financials have taken the lead?
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#2785 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:21:22 AM
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hisah wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
@aguy let me listen to my instincts and see if i can follow suit.


Careful though. I was here purely for speculation purposes and it rallied even beyond my targets. I didn't sell coz of any other reason. If i trusted management i could have held on for longer.

Diplomacy calls for speculation to be referred to as trading smile

@aguy became a trader for a moment smile or @aguy became a speculator for a moment.

Speculator vs trader, me thinks the latter sounds better smile

In some certain global quarters the term speculator would make one be 'given the eye' smile


Ha ha. I think I was speculating. I saw the company was undervalued for no good reason and I expected good results and a dividend. Which all came true. Isn't trading more of riding the momentum or expected momentum. I speculate with a defined portion only to keep ze blood running and I never confuse the the long holds with speculation. Cfci due to good gains started becoming a grey area and had to let it go.

Interesting arguement though.
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#2786 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:27:27 AM
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#2787 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:01:51 AM
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JHL prints a high of 250/-
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#2788 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:13:22 AM
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hisah wrote:
JHL prints a high of 250/-

Congrats you sure have called the insurance companies
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#2789 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:26:25 AM
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If ICDC aka Centum hits 25/- I'll need to start looking for somewhere to park my yacht! Good times beckoning (whistles to myself)...
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#2790 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:54:55 AM
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hisah wrote:
Tomorrow is the last trading day for Q1 2013. If NSE20 closes above 4700 it'll be up 6% plus for the month and 13% plus in 2013 (YTD). Quite a solid performance will that sizable election barrier.

Still the election veil is hanging around since Nov 2012, which I expect to be cleared once the courts are done with the ruling. I'm sure fund managers that missed the 5 month ride will load up as soon as the veil is lifted. Will wanjikus be able to catch up that fast moving bus?

I continue putting my skin on the line and patiently wait for that stampede, which had a preview 2 weeks back.

Been a Great quarter.
My predictions for Q2 is that the bull will continue reigning supreme in April as investors take positions ahead of Q1 results from banks & FY for Mpesa then a slow May 15th- Jun 15th and then finally momentum will increase in the last 2weeks of Q2.
My 2bobsmile
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#2791 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:05:42 PM
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Have you noted that whenever equity stock moves up,hfck climbs to seat where it was seated?
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#2792 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:08:59 PM
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There is something worryingly wrong with the NSE
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#2793 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:12:36 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Have you noted that whenever equity stock moves up,hfck climbs to seat where it was seated?


I have also seen that. The gap stays the same. Same with kcb and equity , but now I think member will catch up. Also centum follows hfck in the same way the gap stays.
By this current pattern member heading to 40 and hcfk headed to 30.00.

In other news demand for member @33.50 and no supply
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#2794 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:45:32 PM
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Data flow in my online platform is jammed and not updating.
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#2795 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:50:25 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Data flow in my online platform is jammed and not updating.

thats just provisional, don't mind.
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#2796 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:39:08 PM
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FTSE NSE15 and 25 indices are ending today with a bang. Up 1.97% and 2.13% respectively towards session close.

NSE20 will likely reclaim the 4800 handle or close just shy of it.
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#2797 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:06:29 PM
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How long does it take NSE to compute the day's index metrics? Or are the staff using abacus to do the math?? Very unprofessional for a bourse that wants to go global...
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#2798 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:11:42 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:

6.When ATS and Online trading systems stop failing
24.When NSE is more frequent and confident with their 'twirra' updates.
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#2799 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:17:29 PM
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hisah wrote:
How long does it take NSE to compute the day's index metrics? Or are the staff using abacus to do the math?? Very unprofessional for a bourse that wants to go global...

Why can't it be real time?
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#2800 Posted : Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:03:16 PM
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hisah wrote:

As for my trades - CFCI is within striking distance of my target @10.50 while JHL is slowly working towards 250.

Near term risk - locally - election case while globally - Cyprus throwing a nasty spanner into the works.


Today 250/- printed. Are you off the ship or will you sail further?
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