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Centum FY2016 div comeback 1/- net profit +25%
Ericsson
#131 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:28:26 AM
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Mworia has to feel his dream of becoming a billionaire before the age of 40.
DJ is there to make him achieve his dream so long as he sings to his tunes.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Spikes
#132 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:55:14 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Mworia has to feel his dream of becoming a billionaire before the age of 40.
DJ is there to make him achieve his dream so long as he sings to his tunes.


According to holy scripture you become greatest while serving others. Mworia and CK DJ are serving their self-interest now expecting to be great. No way!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
mlennyma
#133 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 1:57:07 PM
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From 40 to 47 is enough to quench the thirst of a bear,i still maintain a stock market is the place You can make the quickest money if it likes you.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Spikes
#134 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 2:21:19 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
From 40 to 47 is enough to quench the thirst of a bear,i still maintain a stock market is the place You can make the quickest money if it likes you.



It is true but at some point you find yourself holding a stock which has sunk deeper and unable to exit to enter another. It requires careful study of the market.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
enyands
#135 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 2:56:56 PM
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Spikes wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
From 40 to 47 is enough to quench the thirst of a bear,i still maintain a stock market is the place You can make the quickest money if it likes you.



It is true but at some point you find yourself holding a stock which has sunk deeper and unable to exit to enter another. It requires careful study of the market.


This stock just gained 7 in 2 days! !! My 8k shares kesho pap. Freedom finally at last tomorrow. Tempted to hold but I'll never have any other opportunity.kesho mbuzi anarara
Ebenyo
#136 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 3:48:34 PM
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l have checked today major dailies,centum have not yet published their results.Are they cooking them first before publishing or what?
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Othelo
#137 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 4:12:03 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
l have checked today major dailies,centum have not yet published their results.Are they cooking them first before publishing or what?

Yesterday Dailies smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
VituVingiSana
#138 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 5:14:17 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
l have checked today major dailies,centum have not yet published their results.Are they cooking them first before publishing or what?
Check their website, they were on there yesterday.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#139 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 6:47:08 PM
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Othelo wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
l have checked today major dailies,centum have not yet published their results.Are they cooking them first before publishing or what?

Yesterday Dailies smile

what do you mean? results were posted in the dailies before official announcement?
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researchfirst
#140 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 8:21:48 PM
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Weighing in on the bonus discussion, I am wondering why people act surprised? Whether you agree or disagree with the structure, Centum, unlike a lot of NSE firms, is upfront about exactly how they award bonuses.

"Our variable performance based reward system is key as it addresses the critical balance between employee reward and shareholder wealth creation. We have in place a bonus structure which recognizes outperformance. Participation in the bonus pool is determined by both corporate and individual performance. On corporate performance, a return on opening shareholder funds in excess of a hurdle rate of 15% is targeted each year. Should this be achieved, the team is then entitled to a bonus pool of 20% of the return in excess of the hurdle rate." Centum AR 2015, pg. 133.

It is a fairly generic approach, actually. The question to me, therefore, is whether or not you think the bonus structure will help or hinder the capital appreciation of your investment in the company. If you think it hurts, don't invest. If you think it helps, then invest. Skip the drama. Just think about it and make a decision.

What will be interesting moving forward is if they shift it as the company shifts. They said at the investor briefing that they are now essentially a conglomerate rather than a portfolio investor. To me, that means some thought should be given to whether this approach is still ideal or if something new needs to replace it.
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