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Intelligentsia
#131 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:28:17 AM
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alma wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
So its now Switzerland, U.S. UK and France that have warned of consequences - is this meant to be a not-so-subtle influence of the direction the pendulum of eRection will swing
Intelligencia my man. Hitler was told not to go to Poland. He was then told not to go to Russia. Note it is the policy of appeasement deliberately pursued by these same European powers (kina Brito) that allowed the Fuhrer of the Third Reich to invade many other countries! The pendulum swang when babies were burnt in a church. And I'm swinging it! But the truth never dies. Get the mf's out of this place to answer their queries. I agree. For someone who's always posting Alkaida, I'm very disappointed.
Haiya. You miss my point - by several galaxies. I am against EU (actually any foreign) overt or covert interference in our electoral process, because although they come chanting the mantra of democracy we know their underlying self-interest is their real motivation,not our welfare. However, if someone killed people, then they must face the law. I also need to disillusion you: I do not support TNA. BTW, my choice for Kenya's next president is guided by a simple template of where we are as a country now, and where we want to go and who is best placed to offer that leadership. Where we are: Kenya has all the ingredients of economic take-off: a hardworking & skilled people, good constitution, revamped judiciary,improving infrastructure, good oil & gas resources, a rising geo-politico-economic stature because of our Somalia campaign, role in regional and int. bodies, Nbi becoming an attractive hub for aviation, pharmaceutical (Pfizer), ICT (Google,IBM)interests etc. V-2030 is a good roadmap. Where we want to go: the promised land of middle income nations, with political and economic freedom. Who to take us there: While we had a Founding Father, what we now need is a Father of Development just like Malaysia had, to guide the nation there. Then I examined who,IMO, has the best qualities to lead us there... Loud geo-political thoughts: Kibs started the look-east policy, ndio why the Chinese are all over. Jubilee would most likely complete our move totally to the East...pamoja na our mafuta. Cord would most likely take us west. Qstn: would the West be comfortable with that?
freiks
#132 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:46:05 AM
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Na kwa hii story yote Baba ya taifa hatoi msimamo wake ....... or these diplomatakos are utilizing his silence
Life is an endless adventure
quicksand
#133 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:55:22 AM
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Location: Nairobi
freiks wrote:
Na kwa hii story yote Baba ya taifa hatoi msimamo wake ....... or these diplomatakos are utilizing his silence
MK taking a public stand would not help matters. It would just raise political temperatures. Wacha atulie hivyo tu.
techboy
#134 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:57:02 AM
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Joined: 6/18/2009
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READ THIS CAREFULLY. THE TYRANNY OF NUMBERS RELOADED!!!!!! ..Final update by IEBC R. VALLEY: 3,373,853 CENTRAL: 2,190,477 EASTERN: 2,092,883 NYANZA: 1,954,756 NAIROBI: 1,778,903 WESTERN: 1,434,987 COAST: 1,164,083 NORTH EAST:347,457 TOTAL: 14,337,399 Now i understand why some people were asking for moretime for registration. They have looked at the numbers and they are panicking Not tribal numbers but those who trust in Uhuruto in their policies. The numbers do not simply add up on their favor. TNA/URP alliance has the numbers to win in first round. There is NO way under the sun politically, arithmetically or otherwise the figures can be changed or cooked in their favor. If you doubt takea calculator..... 1.Donate ALL Western and Nyanza votes to THEM which is an impossibility since we have LOYAL JUBILEE living in Nyanza and western. 2. Donate HALF of Nairobi, Eastern and North Eastern and three quarters of coast to THEM which is still too generous because Nairobi is TNA zone. Coast is also turning out to be a Jubilee zone they don't want to be left out in government. But for the purpose of this we shall not include Mombasa, Lamu, Taita Taveta and Kilifi which are highly cosmopolitan t in favor of Jubilee.. We have not also factored Ngilu's contribution and the fact that on our own We are going to get substantial Eastern votes. 3.Donate about 400k votes to THEM from Rift valley though as Ruto said the Achicha goons are not more than thirty in Rift valley. If THEY Gets half a million votes in Rift valley, i will buy free lunch to ten People who are willing to bet. Some people did not quite the race for fun The ground is highly hostile to THEM. Rift valley is highly a URP zone with Towns being TNA like Nakuru, Naivasha etc 4. Donate about 90k votes to THEM from central though .Last time THEY got a paltry 34K. if the figure doubles i will be shocked! 5. Add the remaining votes not donated 2.97m rift valley 2.1m central 0 votes Nyanza 1m Eastern 889k Nairobi 0 votes western 300k votes coast 173k North eastern=7.5Mill ion votes for TNA/ URP which is about 52% . I believe the sovereign power of the people of Kenya vests with the people themselves.
Lolest!
#135 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 11:57:39 AM
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freiks wrote:
Na kwa hii story yote Baba ya taifa hatoi msimamo wake ....... or these diplomatakos are utilizing his silence
msimamo gani? Ama pia yeye atatuchapa masanctions if Jubilee win?
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
simonkabz
#136 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:04:01 PM
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Location: Cameroon
freiks wrote:
Na kwa hii story yote Baba ya taifa hatoi msimamo wake ....... or these diplomatakos are utilizing his silence
Because he is a wise man. Much as some guys here keep yapping about china, baks has maintained a very sober relationship with the west, and Kenya has benefited from both worlds. The suicide bombers believe having 2 friends is better than having 50.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Lolest!
#137 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:10:39 PM
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Location: Kianjokoma
@githundi, you remember the dark forces? These guys tried to talk to Uhuruto but they refused. We are now having to choose between 4 years of sanctions and the hatulipi rent goons!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
ecstacy
#138 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:26:36 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
Thank you Uncle Sam for reminding us we are truly subservient to you after those 50 years of independence that Pres Obama even recalled! You are within your rights to give us full disclosure on your intentions and preferences for our Presidential contest. We know who you don't want - in a two horse race. If that is not endorsement, I don't know what is. If any law has not been broken or cooperation received, why do you threaten us or implicitly endorse a specific candidate? The legal Kenyan institutions have cleared Hon. Uhuru and Hon. Ruto to run for the high office in their country of birth. They have so far cooperated with the ICC. Why can't you - the US Government - allow the democracy you espouse carry the day as well as the institutions that protect these freedoms do their job?
josiah33
#139 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 1:21:21 PM
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Joined: 1/27/2011
Posts: 1,777
ecstacy wrote:
Thank you Uncle Sam for reminding us we are truly subservient to you after those 50 years of independence that Pres Obama even recalled! You are within your rights to give us full disclosure on your intentions and preferences for our Presidential contest. We know who you don't want - in a two horse race. If that is not endorsement, I don't know what is. If any law has not been broken or cooperation received, why do you threaten us or implicitly endorse a specific candidate? The legal Kenyan institutions have cleared Hon. Uhuru and Hon. Ruto to run for the high office in their country of birth. They have so far cooperated with the ICC. Why can't you - the US Government - allow the democracy you espouse carry the day as well as the institutions that protect these freedoms do their job?
Carson talked of persons having histories and the history speaking alot about the person depending on what it was all about. I am sure they are now glad they worked on Uhuru's history and the damage has already been done. The next logical step for them to take is, of course, to tell us that person's with certain kind of histories attract dire consequences if elected to lead Kenya. That's the whole plot here...........i could be wrong but then i could be right(hiyo nimeiba ya Ngunyi).
xyzee
#140 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 2:20:18 PM
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Joined: 1/9/2009
Posts: 1,262
The problem with Kenyan politics is that whichever way, election outcome goes there will be a community that will feel cheated. Yet if things go wrong or turn out well we all feel/enjoy as Kenyans. Someone summarized it well, Most of us attend different churches but this has never been an issue. You'll not find A who is a catholic 'hating' B who is an SDA. Wait till the 2 realize one is Jubilant and the other Corded......... I wish next time the front runners would come from small communities. No Luhya, luo, kikuyu, kalenjin or Kamba.
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