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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai!
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum Well, if KQ was making a PROFIT of 10bn then 100mn would be a rounding error. What's KQ's profit? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/9/2010 Posts: 320 Location: kenya
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good https://www.nation.co.ke...49044-8ry80gz/index.htmlWork hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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cyruskulei wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good https://www.nation.co.ke...9044-8ry80gz/index.html[/quote] I could be the CEO of this airline, if I had the time.. What ails it is simply staffing at all levels, especially the lower end, front office clerks. I wonder how Michael Joseph has been unable to break the cartels. It is just odd
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:cyruskulei wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good https://www.nation.co.ke...9044-8ry80gz/index.html[/quote] I could be the CEO of this airline, if I had the time.. What ails it is simply staffing at all levels, especially the lower end, front office clerks. I wonder how Michael Joseph has been unable to break the cartels. It is just odd There is a lot wrong in this company... The small small things add up to cause the delays and inefficiencies... Peeps are called for an interview the person who gets the job wasn't even in the interview and doesn't even know what that role entails so how do you expect that person to perform and to marshall guys to achieve effieciencies...? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:cyruskulei wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:True. However 100m in HOTAC isn't an extreme expense sum for a firm with turnover exceeding KES 110B per annum The ksh.100mn if saved will be useful in reducing the loss kq makes There is no airline which doesn't have operating expenses. For KQ unfortunately it's the staff that cause the unnecessary costs Well KQ has always paid HOTAC its not something new.... It is just that last week there was a meeting officiated by the Director of Operations who is a pilot and all Pilots who have managerial positions plus Head of Ground Services .... That is when they were given the stats... For example last week when there was a crew shortage it was because one FO was having a wedding in Mombasa.... That same Director of Operations who is complaining about delays etc was in the same wedding and should have raised that issue with his colleague pilots. Yes there is the issue of goodwill etc but one can't call in sick a few hours from the flight and go Scott free that is what they do plus they don't have to show evidence that they were actually ill... A couple of flights were cancelled more than 500 pax had to be accommodated just because of 1 wedding... I actually prefer that the pilots do call in sick even on short notice because most get extremely high at 1824 et al.. and some end up in an unfit condition to fly the birds, especially Saturday and Sunday morning flights.. Bora uhai! That's fine but look at the ripple effect... That CBA should be renegotiated KALPA has the upper hand on this matter which is not good at all... KALPA has broken all the past CEOs at KQ.. They have huge bargaining power since the pilots are primarily from well-off families, thus difficult to 'manage'.. But I agree, something should be done. The number of customers and lives affected by the disruption in schedules isn't good https://www.nation.co.ke...9044-8ry80gz/index.html[/quote] I could be the CEO of this airline, if I had the time.. What ails it is simply staffing at all levels, especially the lower end, front office clerks. I wonder how Michael Joseph has been unable to break the cartels. It is just odd There is a lot wrong in this company... The small small things add up to cause the delays and inefficiencies... Peeps are called for an interview the person who gets the job wasn't even in the interview and doesn't even know what that role entails so how do you expect that person to perform and to marshall guys to achieve effieciencies...? And I guess some people expect nationalization to 'ease' such a situation. Mutaona maajabu.. Roles will be served even to clueless outsiders! Heri sasa hivi wanaangalia internal staff. What I like about the exposes, is that it gives management a fighting chance to drain the swamp
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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They can givee miguna miguna the mantle. Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,220 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:maka wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:@maka the pessimist kindly confirm why the NBO-NYC flights are at 80% capacity booked through to second week of September 2019 Wait for your HY results on Tuesday... I wish you all the best....  Board meeting in the morning then results thereafter... @Obiero lol ati insiders... 🤣🤣 Planes get full I was bumped off from Joburg no biggie was given USD 300(free cash for jägerbombs) and free accommodation....@obiero and @nrbby KQ is doing extremely badly take it from me.... KQ.. H1 2019 forecast Total income 59,784 Total operating cost 59,222 Operating profit 562 Other costs -3,290 Interest income 22.5 LBIT -2,705.5 Tax expense/(credit) 15 Other income 855 Total loss for the period -1,835.5 @maka we are hours away.. Mungu mbele!
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