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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,101 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018)  The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at!  85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 Expect no dividend hike here instead FY2018 will be a disaster! If you say so then it must be true. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,101 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. Out of stock market Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. All indications are that he will be the next president. Kemei and his cronies should be kicked out of kenre board.Once politics is out,then the company will do well Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,507 Location: nairobi
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Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. All indications are that he will be the next president. Kemei and his cronies should be kicked out of kenre board.Once politics is out,then the company will do well Fake news.. All indications are false
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. All indications are that he will be the next president. Kemei and his cronies should be kicked out of kenre board.Once politics is out,then the company will do well Fake news.. All indications are false @Obiero Tell them all indications that kq is flying from JKIA to JFK are true Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,101 Location: Nairobi
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Look at KPLC. The K(orruption) brigade has destroyed what was a cash-generating machine within a few years at the helm. KenRe has lots of cash but will it be safe under a new regime? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,507 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. All indications are that he will be the next president. Kemei and his cronies should be kicked out of kenre board.Once politics is out,then the company will do well Fake news.. All indications are false @Obiero Tell them all indications that kq is flying from JKIA to JFK are true I'm just sad that KQ management hasn't clarified about the Open Offer or KAA deal.. I would have loaded up more
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Look at KPLC. The K(orruption) brigade has destroyed what was a cash-generating machine within a few years at the helm.
KenRe has lots of cash but will it be safe under a new regime? KenRe is the strong bull, stayed strong as the rest of the herd who were weaker were decimated. But times are tough. The predators need to eat. Scavengers have appetites to fill. And now it stands alone as a GoK firm that's cash-rich on the NSE. It's next on the menu. CMA is not exactly known for protecting shareholders' interests. Only a solid management (firm and visionary) can save this one. The moment you doubt management, run. Run very fast. By the time the truth gets revealed in the financials, it will be too late.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ebenyo wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. All indications are that he will be the next president. Kemei and his cronies should be kicked out of kenre board.Once politics is out,then the company will do well Fake news.. All indications are false @Obiero Tell them all indications that kq is flying from JKIA to JFK are true I'm just sad that KQ management hasn't clarified about the Open Offer or KAA deal.. I would have loaded up more No open offer and no KAA tie up. Turudi topic of discussion, kq can be discussed on kq thread Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. @vvs David Kemei has less than 18 months as Chairman. Mwarania will complete his term. Beyond 2022 dirty tricks are at play to ensure someone we know doesn't win. Started with the Mt Kenya group meeting the past week Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,101 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:Ebenyo wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Kenya Re 2006 15/- Kenya Re 2018 18.70/- (1:6 Bonus in 2012) Annual Dividends (2012-2018 = 3.60) KQ 2006 120/- (Pre-consolidation) KQ 2018 1.75 (Not a typo; pre-consolidation) Dividends ZERO (2012-2018) The "expected FY 2018" dividend from Kenya Re is KES 0.85 which is 50% of what pre-consolidation KQ trades at! 85 cents was also paid out in FY2017 results. 2018 they may hike it to 90 cents or ksh.1 And Mwarania will serve out his full term and will renew a further five years contract. He's on his second and last term. Beyond 2022. If someone we know wins, I am outta KenRe. @vvs David Kemei has less than 18 months as Chairman. Mwarania will complete his term. Beyond 2022 dirty tricks are at play to ensure someone we know doesn't win. Started with the Mt Kenya group meeting the past week  though I don't trust any of the crooks just that some are worse than others. I will keep KenRe as my only "GoK" investment. No NBK, KQ, KenGen or KPLC. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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Ericsson wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/Kenya-Re-to-build-on-Upper-Hill-land/3815534-4925064-cg9alnz/index.html
A good way to eat the fat cash reserves---- So gamet! Why rush to built while real estate is no longer that hot? Anyway I got rid of the stock last year and wish all the luck in the world to those inside. Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Gatheuzi wrote:Ericsson wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/Kenya-Re-to-build-on-Upper-Hill-land/3815534-4925064-cg9alnz/index.html
A good way to eat the fat cash reserves---- So gamet! Why rush to built while real estate is no longer that hot? Anyway I got rid of the stock last year and wish all the luck in the world to those inside. Government agencies are looking for rental properties in Upper hill. Salaries and Remuneration Commission National police service Commission Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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Ericsson wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/Kenya-Re-to-build-on-Upper-Hill-land/3815534-4925064-cg9alnz/index.html
KENRE is a good company with weak management.GOK is a real snare. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2011 Posts: 396
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Gatheuzi wrote:Ericsson wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/markets/marketnews/Kenya-Re-to-build-on-Upper-Hill-land/3815534-4925064-cg9alnz/index.html
A good way to eat the fat cash reserves---- So gamet! Why rush to built while real estate is no longer that hot? Anyway I got rid of the stock last year and wish all the luck in the world to those inside. I agree. Commercial real estate is in a complete glut, especiallybin Upper Hill and Westlands. All are looking (or claiming to charge) $100 / square foot. A total joke with all the new properties coming online!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,101 Location: Nairobi
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Profit Warning for FY 2018. Before a couple of chaps say it Yes, I have KenRe as a core holding. Was it a mistake given GoK's control? I think so but I am not selling yet. Yes, it is a PW but not a loss. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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