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Chase Bank loss...another case of cooking the books?
popat
#241 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:49:06 PM
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One of the bank directors alienda hapo Eastern Bypass akafungua joint inaitwa Oakpoint Ruiru.The best in the O.J neighbourhoods.He is minting serious chums as Kenyans warrow in miasma of lost fortunes.I don't know who can be trusted in this country....
Aguytrying
#242 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:50:45 PM
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Thanks gents for sharing the knowledge
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maka
#243 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:54:33 PM
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popat wrote:
One of the bank directors alienda hapo Eastern Bypass akafungua joint inaitwa Oakpoint Ruiru.The best in the O.J neighbourhoods.He is minting serious chums as Kenyans warrow in miasma of lost fortunes.I don't know who can be trusted in this country....


Dr.Njoroge
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whiteowl
#244 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:20:29 PM
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masukuma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
dunkang wrote:
So, I move my money, interest and time to Sports Betting and banks starts collapsing left, right and center.

Its OK.

Funny enough is that this banks are collapsing after their MDs and CEOs receive awards of excellence. Very funny. Very very funny.

the former governor also left with many awards and recognitions

is that a tell-tell sign?


Yes.Munir best CEO 2014,the chase bank guy best CEO 2015.Even in other countries studies show a correlation between awards and poor performance of the company. Its not always the case but you can't ignore the trend. Watch out for the best CEO in the banking sector this year!
Impunity
#245 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:23:39 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
is m-shwari safe


CBA = @Uhuru bank

never joke with limited companies the person and company are different strangers

m-shwari seems like a convenient place to keep your cash when this banks run occur, just log onto mobile banking of whichever bank and push the funds huko, instead of fighting kwa ATM's.

But is it a safe alternative for long term banking, I am thinking is safcom was to collapse the whole country would go under, financially.


Just open an account at central bank and sleep peacefully


Nditto...learned wazuans should have known these eons!
Portfolio: Sold
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#246 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:43:52 PM
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Posts: 3,017
whiteowl wrote:
masukuma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
dunkang wrote:
So, I move my money, interest and time to Sports Betting and banks starts collapsing left, right and center.

Its OK.

Funny enough is that this banks are collapsing after their MDs and CEOs receive awards of excellence. Very funny. Very very funny.

the former governor also left with many awards and recognitions

is that a tell-tell sign?


Yes.Munir best CEO 2014,the chase bank guy best CEO 2015.Even in other countries studies show a correlation between awards and poor performance of the company. Its not always the case but you can't ignore the trend. Watch out for the best CEO in the banking sector this year!


Think Business Bank Awards outside those categories supported by actual data are not to be taken very seriously.

The CEO of the Year is I think just a rotational BS awarded to somone who has not received it before. Literally all the major CEO's have received this award, may be it was the turn of Munir & Duncan.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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muganda
#247 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:44:31 PM
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Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,903
whiteowl wrote:
masukuma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
dunkang wrote:
So, I move my money, interest and time to Sports Betting and banks starts collapsing left, right and center.

Its OK.

Funny enough is that this banks are collapsing after their MDs and CEOs receive awards of excellence. Very funny. Very very funny.

the former governor also left with many awards and recognitions

is that a tell-tell sign?


Yes.Munir best CEO 2014,the chase bank guy best CEO 2015.Even in other countries studies show a correlation between awards and poor performance of the company. Its not always the case but you can't ignore the trend. Watch out for the best CEO in the banking sector this year!


Ilikeyou
#248 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:44:40 PM
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Posts: 152
Location: Nairobi
I agree on the correlation between awards and poor performance.

IBL had won the FIRE award for sometime.


whiteowl wrote:
masukuma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
dunkang wrote:
So, I move my money, interest and time to Sports Betting and banks starts collapsing left, right and center.

Its OK.

Funny enough is that this banks are collapsing after their MDs and CEOs receive awards of excellence. Very funny. Very very funny.

the former governor also left with many awards and recognitions

is that a tell-tell sign?


Yes.Munir best CEO 2014,the chase bank guy best CEO 2015.Even in other countries studies show a correlation between awards and poor performance of the company. Its not always the case but you can't ignore the trend. Watch out for the best CEO in the banking sector this year!

Impunity
#249 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:46:03 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
masukuma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
dunkang wrote:
So, I move my money, interest and time to Sports Betting and banks starts collapsing left, right and center.

Its OK.

Funny enough is that this banks are collapsing after their MDs and CEOs receive awards of excellence. Very funny. Very very funny.

the former governor also left with many awards and recognitions

is that a tell-tell sign?


Yes.Munir best CEO 2014,the chase bank guy best CEO 2015.Even in other countries studies show a correlation between awards and poor performance of the company. Its not always the case but you can't ignore the trend. Watch out for the best CEO in the banking sector this year!


Think Business Bank Awards outside those categories supported by actual data are not to be taken very seriously.

The CEO of the Year is I think just a rotational BS awarded to somone who has not received it before. Literally all the major CEO's have received this award, may be there's a ka'rotational policy.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


...and on that note, I will just leave this one here....UKenyatta is best Africa's president!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

CheckYourSix
#250 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:46:13 PM
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Joined: 8/26/2015
Posts: 26
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
is m-shwari safe


CBA = @Uhuru bank

never joke with limited companies the person and company are different strangers

m-shwari seems like a convenient place to keep your cash when this banks run occur, just log onto mobile banking of whichever bank and push the funds huko, instead of fighting kwa ATM's.

But is it a safe alternative for long term banking, I am thinking is safcom was to collapse the whole country would go under, financially.


Just open an account at central bank and sleep peacefully


Nditto...learned wazuans should have known these eons!



According to https://www.centralbank....ndex.php/bank-services,

Can I open an account with the Central Bank of Kenya?

No. The Central Bank of Kenya does not offer commercial banking services, such as the opening of accounts, to the general public.
maka
#251 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:50:01 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
masukuma wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
dunkang wrote:
So, I move my money, interest and time to Sports Betting and banks starts collapsing left, right and center.

Its OK.

Funny enough is that this banks are collapsing after their MDs and CEOs receive awards of excellence. Very funny. Very very funny.

the former governor also left with many awards and recognitions

is that a tell-tell sign?


Yes.Munir best CEO 2014,the chase bank guy best CEO 2015.Even in other countries studies show a correlation between awards and poor performance of the company. Its not always the case but you can't ignore the trend. Watch out for the best CEO in the banking sector this year!


Think Business Bank Awards outside those categories supported by actual data are not to be taken very seriously.

The CEO of the Year is I think just a rotational BS awarded to somone who has not received it before. Literally all the major CEO's have received this award, may be it was the turn of Munir & Duncan.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

So they came in last after everyone has enjoyed the lime light cementing the fact that they are bogus..
possunt quia posse videntur
ecstacy
#252 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:51:26 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
CheckYourSix wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
is m-shwari safe


CBA = @Uhuru bank

never joke with limited companies the person and company are different strangers

m-shwari seems like a convenient place to keep your cash when this banks run occur, just log onto mobile banking of whichever bank and push the funds huko, instead of fighting kwa ATM's.

But is it a safe alternative for long term banking, I am thinking is safcom was to collapse the whole country would go under, financially.


Just open an account at central bank and sleep peacefully


Nditto...learned wazuans should have known these eons!



According to https://www.centralbank....ndex.php/bank-services,

Can I open an account with the Central Bank of Kenya?

No. The Central Bank of Kenya does not offer commercial banking services, such as the opening of accounts, to the general public.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
maka
#253 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 5:53:38 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
#MarketUpdate
The Nairobi Securities Exchange suspends Trading of Chase Bank Kenya Bond 
@NSEKenya

Don't know if that was already posted
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Othelo
#254 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:12:00 PM
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Joined: 1/20/2014
Posts: 3,528
popat wrote:
One of the bank directors alienda hapo Eastern Bypass akafungua joint inaitwa Oakpoint Ruiru.The best in the O.J neighbourhoods.He is minting serious chums as Kenyans warrow in miasma of lost fortunes.I don't know who can be trusted in this country....

So this is how guys are acquiring crazy properties in Nairobi and environs. Okay Sad
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Spikes
#255 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:25:17 PM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
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Location: Mombasa
maka wrote:
#MarketUpdate
The Nairobi Securities Exchange suspends Trading of Chase Bank Kenya Bond 
@NSEKenya

Don't know if that was already posted


I will never hold a corporate bond even if it is floated by a blue chip company like Safaricom Ltd.
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Impunity
#256 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:34:43 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
CheckYourSix wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Swenani wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
is m-shwari safe


CBA = @Uhuru bank

never joke with limited companies the person and company are different strangers

m-shwari seems like a convenient place to keep your cash when this banks run occur, just log onto mobile banking of whichever bank and push the funds huko, instead of fighting kwa ATM's.

But is it a safe alternative for long term banking, I am thinking is safcom was to collapse the whole country would go under, financially.


Just open an account at central bank and sleep peacefully


Nditto...learned wazuans should have known these eons!



According to https://www.centralbank....ndex.php/bank-services,

Can I open an account with the Central Bank of Kenya?

No. The Central Bank of Kenya does not offer commercial banking services, such as the opening of accounts, to the general public.


You must have minimum Kss.100,000 for CBK, if you are a @wanjiku please tumia M-suruari.
Shame on you
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#257 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:39:35 PM
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Posts: 26,325
Location: Masada
Spikes wrote:
maka wrote:
#MarketUpdate
The Nairobi Securities Exchange suspends Trading of Chase Bank Kenya Bond 
@NSEKenya

Don't know if that was already posted


I will never hold a corporate bond even if it is floated by a blue chip company like Safaricom Ltd.


Gaament Bond is the best, if you get Infrastructure Bond (tax free), the sweeter.

Drool Drool Drool Drool
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

kediveKed
#258 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:47:48 PM
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instead of capping interest rates, we need a substantive law as opposed to rules and regulations on corporate governance. Especially in the financial sector ( Banking, Insurance, Retirement). The law should be criminal in nature or at least civil and criminal in nature because the burden of proof in criminal is very high to get a conviction.
Anyway the directors are solely responsbile for this mess because they acted recklessly. A director is reasonably expected to foresee the damage that his/her actions ( Fradulent statement of account) can cause.
IF it was possible for depositors to sue directors for breach of duty and subsequently have their personal assets used to cover their claims, it was be great as this is a case of unjust enrichment. Anyway it's a sad day for kenya.

Oh and The Perp Walk should be introduced in Kenya
gatoho
#259 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:57:29 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Spikes wrote:
maka wrote:
#MarketUpdate
The Nairobi Securities Exchange suspends Trading of Chase Bank Kenya Bond 
@NSEKenya

Don't know if that was already posted


I will never hold a corporate bond even if it is floated by a blue chip company like Safaricom Ltd.


Gaament Bond is the best, if you get Infrastructure Bond (tax free), the sweeter.

Drool Drool Drool Drool



Some guy had a government bond mature 2days ago and guess who he banked with?
Foresight..
kayhara
#260 Posted : Thursday, April 07, 2016 7:02:01 PM
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Naona sosio midia saying Rafiki DTM, and Ghengis securities associated with Chase experienced unrest today,.
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