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wukan wrote:Following the Zambian playbook, ill-informed rate cap, vanity projects. Premium tears coming up shortly Wow! We had this case study to learn from, and still went down that path? Then perhaps a default on our Eurobonds is inevitable too, down the line.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Monk wrote:wukan wrote:Following the Zambian playbook, ill-informed rate cap, vanity projects. Premium tears coming up shortly Wow! We had this case study to learn from, and still went down that path? Then perhaps a default on our Eurobonds is inevitable too, down the line. https://www.the-star.co....itter#Echobox=1605673618possunt quia posse videntur
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maka wrote:Monk wrote:Following the Zambian playbook, ill-informed rate cap, vanity projects. Premium tears coming up shortly Wow! We had this case study to learn from, and still went down that path? Then perhaps a default on our Eurobonds is inevitable too, down the line. https://www.the-star.co....tter#Echobox=1605673618[/quote] These are doomsday naysayers, Kenya is good under the stewardship of Jubilee. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:maka wrote:Monk wrote:Following the Zambian playbook, ill-informed rate cap, vanity projects. Premium tears coming up shortly Wow! We had this case study to learn from, and still went down that path? Then perhaps a default on our Eurobonds is inevitable too, down the line. https://www.the-star.co....tter#Echobox=1605673618[/quote] These are doomsday naysayers, Kenya is good under the stewardship of Jubilee. Sisi kwisha.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Wacha katambe Quote:NAIROBI, Nov 18 (Reuters) - Kenya has changed its mind about a G20 coronavirus debt relief initiative it declined to join earlier this year, and is now planning to defer around $690 million in debt payments, its finance minister told Reuters on Wednesday. Kenya had said in May that it would not seek suspension of debt payments under the G20’s Debt Service Suspension Initiative (DSSI), aimed at helping poor countries weather the COVID-19 pandemic, as it found the terms too restrictive. “We have been reluctant in the past because of the attendant unintended consequences in terms of those holding private debt,” Finance Minister Ukur Yatani said. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2I411M
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2009 Posts: 262
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Angelica _ann wrote:maka wrote:Monk wrote:Following the Zambian playbook, ill-informed rate cap, vanity projects. Premium tears coming up shortly Wow! We had this case study to learn from, and still went down that path? Then perhaps a default on our Eurobonds is inevitable too, down the line. https://www.the-star.co....tter#Echobox=1605673618[/quote] These are doomsday naysayers, Kenya is good under the stewardship of Jubilee. Dry humour...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,602
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Quote:The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank have forced Kenya to take a Sh75 billion coronavirus debt relief from wealthy nations as a pre-condition for accessing cheap loans. Kenya is now planning to defer around $690 million (Sh75 billion) in debt payments as it seeks further funding from the Bretton Woods institutions for budget support to weather the coronavirus economic hardships. Treasury Cabinet Secretary Ukur Yatani reckons that Kenya made a U-turn in seeking a suspension of debt payments under a G20 initiative due to pressure from the Bretton Woods institutions. A restrictive clause in the Eurobond terms stopped Kenya from seeking a suspension of debt payments because it could have forced the country to pay the entire Eurobond debt worth $6.1 billion (Sh652.7 billion). Besides the Eurobond terms, the Treasury was fretful that the relief could hurt the country’s credit rating and be viewed as one that does not meet its international obligations. “They (World Bank and IMF) are trying to introduce this as one of the key prerequisites to accessing resources from the IMF and World Bank,” Mr Yatani told Reuters. https://www.businessdail...5bn-debt-relief-3204412
It looks like Washington is serious about buying the Chinese loan book and getting Kenya away from the Chinese orbit. Echoes of the '97 Asian financial crisis
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,712 Location: NAIROBI
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https://www.standardmedi...l-with-imf-for-more-cashWealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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wukan wrote:Quote:The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank have forced Kenya to take a Sh75 billion coronavirus debt relief from wealthy nations as a pre-condition for accessing cheap loans. Kenya is now planning to defer around $690 million (Sh75 billion) in debt payments as it seeks further funding from the Bretton Woods institutions for budget support to weather the coronavirus economic hardships. Treasury Cabinet Secretary Ukur Yatani reckons that Kenya made a U-turn in seeking a suspension of debt payments under a G20 initiative due to pressure from the Bretton Woods institutions. A restrictive clause in the Eurobond terms stopped Kenya from seeking a suspension of debt payments because it could have forced the country to pay the entire Eurobond debt worth $6.1 billion (Sh652.7 billion). Besides the Eurobond terms, the Treasury was fretful that the relief could hurt the country’s credit rating and be viewed as one that does not meet its international obligations. “They (World Bank and IMF) are trying to introduce this as one of the key prerequisites to accessing resources from the IMF and World Bank,” Mr Yatani told Reuters. https://www.businessdail...5bn-debt-relief-3204412
It looks like Washington is serious about buying the Chinese loan book and getting Kenya away from the Chinese orbit. Echoes of the '97 Asian financial crisis Unlikely. Why would Washington want the Chinese Loan that Kenya is having problems paying? As an example, look at KCB trying to collect on the "Equity" Loan to City Hall. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana wrote:wukan wrote:Quote:The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank have forced Kenya to take a Sh75 billion coronavirus debt relief from wealthy nations as a pre-condition for accessing cheap loans. Kenya is now planning to defer around $690 million (Sh75 billion) in debt payments as it seeks further funding from the Bretton Woods institutions for budget support to weather the coronavirus economic hardships. Treasury Cabinet Secretary Ukur Yatani reckons that Kenya made a U-turn in seeking a suspension of debt payments under a G20 initiative due to pressure from the Bretton Woods institutions. A restrictive clause in the Eurobond terms stopped Kenya from seeking a suspension of debt payments because it could have forced the country to pay the entire Eurobond debt worth $6.1 billion (Sh652.7 billion). Besides the Eurobond terms, the Treasury was fretful that the relief could hurt the country’s credit rating and be viewed as one that does not meet its international obligations. “They (World Bank and IMF) are trying to introduce this as one of the key prerequisites to accessing resources from the IMF and World Bank,” Mr Yatani told Reuters. https://www.businessdail...5bn-debt-relief-3204412
It looks like Washington is serious about buying the Chinese loan book and getting Kenya away from the Chinese orbit. Echoes of the '97 Asian financial crisis Unlikely. Why would Washington want the Chinese Loan that Kenya is having problems paying? As an example, look at KCB trying to collect on the "Equity" Loan to City Hall.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,712 Location: NAIROBI
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https://t.co/uNLYi9JBNp?amp=1
China will not finance anymore infrastructure projects in Kenya and Africa....repayments is now the priority Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,712 Location: NAIROBI
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Mudavadi warns country's debt levels almost hitting unimaginable levels. He says the country is borrowing beyond its capacity Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Ericsson wrote:https://t.co/uNLYi9JBNp?amp=1
China will not finance anymore infrastructure projects in Kenya and Africa....repayments is now the priority The description from Financial Times: Quote:“Alongside Mr Xi in successive portraits were the authoritarian leaders of countries with big debts and “junk” credit ratings such as .....Uhuru Kenyatta of Kenya..” ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpIo55dXMAQfHoi?format=jpg&name=small)
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2009 Posts: 262
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,712 Location: NAIROBI
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Monk wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/cash-in-kenyans-pockets-jumps-to-19-month-high-3231412
Recovery underway Not in Jubilee administration 2021 will be harder than 2020. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 384
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Ericsson wrote:Monk wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/cash-in-kenyans-pockets-jumps-to-19-month-high-3231412
Recovery underway Not in Jubilee administration 2021 will be harder than 2020. ![Laughing out loudly](/Images/Emoticons/msp_lol.gif) why so pessimistic?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,712 Location: NAIROBI
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xtina wrote:Ericsson wrote:Monk wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/cash-in-kenyans-pockets-jumps-to-19-month-high-3231412
Recovery underway Not in Jubilee administration 2021 will be harder than 2020. ![Laughing out loudly](/Images/Emoticons/msp_lol.gif) why so pessimistic? Jubilee has nothing new to offer apart from economic pain. Look at the tax measures being introduced from January. As other countries are looking at stimulus measures due to pain brought by COVID-19. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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If you read the article, there is a very very funny assumption made to make the claim. Money leaving peoples bank accounts = cash held by the people in homes..Obviously such a claim would be true if kenyans only spent money in kenya. Some take the money and buy cars outside Kenya, some pay loans outside kenya...so when you use that assumption to come up with an article like that, it says more about the writer than it says about the cash in pocket. Me when cash leaves my account, I typically dont have it under my bed or in a box in the house. Ericsson wrote:xtina wrote:Ericsson wrote:Monk wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/cash-in-kenyans-pockets-jumps-to-19-month-high-3231412
Recovery underway Not in Jubilee administration 2021 will be harder than 2020. ![Laughing out loudly](/Images/Emoticons/msp_lol.gif) why so pessimistic? Jubilee has nothing new to offer apart from economic pain. Look at the tax measures being introduced from January. As other countries are looking at stimulus measures due to pain brought by COVID-19.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2009 Posts: 360
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eangaga wrote:If you read the article, there is a very very funny assumption made to make the claim. Money leaving peoples bank accounts = cash held by the people in homes..Obviously such a claim would be true if kenyans only spent money in kenya. Some take the money and buy cars outside Kenya, some pay loans outside kenya...so when you use that assumption to come up with an article like that, it says more about the writer than it says about the cash in pocket. Me when cash leaves my account, I typically dont have it under my bed or in a box in the house. Ericsson wrote:xtina wrote:Ericsson wrote:Monk wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/capital-markets/cash-in-kenyans-pockets-jumps-to-19-month-high-3231412
Recovery underway Not in Jubilee administration 2021 will be harder than 2020. ![Laughing out loudly](/Images/Emoticons/msp_lol.gif) why so pessimistic? Jubilee has nothing new to offer apart from economic pain. Look at the tax measures being introduced from January. As other countries are looking at stimulus measures due to pain brought by COVID-19. Problem is they never specified the currency,but if its strictly kes, does our currency leave our borders?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,712 Location: NAIROBI
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https://www.businessdail...s-on-cash-crunch-3234834Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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