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hisah
#2541 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:20:54 PM
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Meanwhile VWAP @11.15. But I can some bid has checked it for 500 shares @12.80. BS manipulation...

Bid 1 500 12.80 while supply reads 11.15 600 Ask 1
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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ChessMaster
#2542 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:22:58 PM
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hisah wrote:
Meanwhile VWAP @11.15. But I can some bid has checked it for 500 shares @12.80. BS manipulation...

Bid 1 500 12.80 while supply reads 11.15 600 Ask 1


You know.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
People try.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Aguytrying
#2543 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:27:03 PM
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hisah wrote:
Meanwhile VWAP @11.15. But I can some bid has checked it for 500 shares @12.80. BS manipulation...

Bid 1 500 12.80 while supply reads 11.15 600 Ask 1


Quick decisions are learnt from experience.
KK is going down down. FY results will hit it further, those interested in buying just wait.
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mwekez@ji
#2544 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:46:49 PM
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hisah wrote:
Meanwhile VWAP @11.15. But I can some bid has checked it for 500 shares @12.80. BS manipulation...

Bid 1 500 12.80 while supply reads 11.15 600 Ask 1


So one can bid higher than the available ask? #Wierd_that_observation. And where is that bid now coz am reading zero demand with highest traded price today being KES 12.20 .... This share has become a falling knife courtesy of wanjiku who want out at whatever price
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VituVingiSana
#2545 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 6:01:07 PM
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Profit Warning. 2H 2012 significantly worse than 2H 2011.

The price will fall to sub-10 & perhaps even start flirting with KES 8..

I gotta admit as @guru said... being in a price regulated industry where one cannot pass on costs is a losing affair no matter how good you are.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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the deal
#2546 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 6:34:45 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Profit Warning. 2H 2012 significantly worse than 2H 2011.

The price will fall to sub-10 & perhaps even start flirting with KES 8..

I gotta admit as @guru said... being in a price regulated industry where one cannot pass on costs is a losing affair no matter how good you are.

Interesting...is H2 2012.a loss or a profit...if its a profit even if its KES20mn lets be optimistic. ..Total & Kenol should gang up on ERC and demand for price formula to be reviewed...they cant be selling stock at a loss...a 5 day strike which paralyses the whole transport sector would do...
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#2547 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:19:30 PM
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The latest KK guidance much appreciated. Sheds more light on what we sort of already know & some +ve vibe for FY '13. Nevertheless, I'd still like to see the full set of results then make a call whether to get back in, most probably via the B/S. #Observer
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the deal
#2548 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:43:03 PM
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Why is Kenol Kobil issuing two profit warnings in one financial year? so tomorrow the 10% rule is suspended again? come FY announcement...the 10% rule is suspended again...what nonsense is this?

He should just release those FY results.
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#2549 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:47:39 PM
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Profit warning

http://www.kenolkobil.co...t/content/article/58/332
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#2550 Posted : Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:17:07 PM
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the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Profit Warning. 2H 2012 significantly worse than 2H 2011.

The price will fall to sub-10 & perhaps even start flirting with KES 8..

I gotta admit as @guru said... being in a price regulated industry where one cannot pass on costs is a losing affair no matter how good you are.

Interesting...is H2 2012.a loss or a profit...if its a profit even if its KES20mn lets be optimistic. ..Total & Kenol should gang up on ERC and demand for price formula to be reviewed...they cant be selling stock at a loss...a 5 day strike which paralyses the whole transport sector would do...

KK is always shorting the market, posting low prices below even whats recommended by ERC!In this industry there is the big four(KK, TKL,OIlibya and Shell-Vivo)and then the rest, who for the last couple of years have been investing in infrustructure. And if KK and TKL ganged up, the independents would have a field!.... one other, no OMC would ever dare be in bad books with MOE, you will be fried! KK knows that very well!
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#2551 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2013 1:07:47 AM
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the deal wrote:
Why is Kenol Kobil issuing two profit warnings in one financial year? so tomorrow the 10% rule is suspended again? come FY announcement...the 10% rule is suspended again...what nonsense is this?

He should just release those FY results.

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#2552 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:15:32 AM
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the deal wrote:
Why is Kenol Kobil issuing two profit warnings in one financial year? so tomorrow the 10% rule is suspended again? come FY announcement...the 10% rule is suspended again...what nonsense is this?

He should just release those FY results.


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#2553 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:44:56 AM
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There is a bid for 5,000 KK shares at 5bob. People are in a humorous mood today.
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#2554 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:36:36 PM
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time(desc) prev. close share. trans last price Kshs percent
14:23:05 11.15 3,193,100 11.05 -0.10 0.9%
14:21:25 11.15 25,000 11.05 -0.10 0.9%
13:55:24 11.15 1,900 10.90 -0.25 2.24%
13:50:19 11.15 2,300 10.90 -0.25 2.24%
13:50:19 11.15 18,900 11.00 -0.15 1.35%
13:50:19 11.15 3,000 11.00 -0.15 1.35%
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hisah
#2555 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:49:01 PM
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Chart pattern scope still hints sub 10 is on the cards...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#2556 Posted : Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:00:20 PM
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hisah wrote:
Chart pattern scope still hints sub 10 is on the cards...


Me too. The high volumes at 11.00 dont fool me. just wait for FY 2012 results. Its going down, down
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#2557 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2013 10:02:00 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
Chart pattern scope still hints sub 10 is on the cards...


Me too. The high volumes at 11.00 dont fool me. just wait for FY 2012 results. Its going down, down


On 6th April 2009, this counter hit KES. 3/-. We are unlikely to hit that but an 8/- is welcomed
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#2558 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2013 10:20:36 AM
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... and this segman should just drop the FY 2012 results today. My thinking is that H2 2012 results is a profit but a significantly lower profit than H2 2011. However, if the H2 2012 results is a loss, this counter is screwed!
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#2559 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2013 11:18:23 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
... and this segman should just drop the FY 2012 results today. My thinking is that H2 2012 results is a profit but a significantly lower profit than H2 2011. However, if the H2 2012 results is a loss, this counter is screwed!


Its screwed either way, waiting to pick up the pieces
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mwekez@ji
#2560 Posted : Friday, March 08, 2013 11:40:25 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
... and this segman should just drop the FY 2012 results today. My thinking is that H2 2012 results is a profit but a significantly lower profit than H2 2011. However, if the H2 2012 results is a loss, this counter is screwed!


Its screwed either way, waiting to pick up the pieces


Indeed. .... Rufus Mwanyasi, Investment Analyst at Tsavo Securities expresses his views in this clip on the huge damage done on KK counter >>>> http://bcove.me/7vbn5ba7
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