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mv_ufanisi wrote:Swenani wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:guru267 wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Science will solve this religious/superstition problem. Science and the Qur'an are in perfect sync... The Bible is the one that is terrified by science since it tries fool mankind things like that vegetation was created before the sun  The problem with religion is that it is not arrived at through a logical examination of the facts but is arrived at through belief. Reading and re-reading some piece of writing until you convince yourself that what you are reading is the absolute truth. Science's objective consideration of the facts will win in the end. Both Koran and Bible have too much in mythical stories and focus on people repeating the same thing over and over again until they accept it as fact. This is what madrassas and Sunday schools are about. There is also a heavy reliance on emotionalism, fear (of hell or some other punishment) and closed thought. Science relies on proven fact and continuous search for knowledge. It requires a much higher level of intelligence and uncertainity to deal with it it but it will ultimately win out against beliefs. In science for all intents and purposes, once you die your matter just breaks down into smaller matter. There is no evidence of an afterlife. Mv ufanisi, Are you a believer in creation or the big bhang theory? Btw, do you know that science is also a religion? re·li·gion rəˈlijən/ noun noun: religion the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. by this definition, science is no religion. noun noun: science the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. this should answer your question no 1 as well. Science and belief are like oil and water. Science is more about repeatable, verifiable and observable proof. And it's always welcomes contrarian ideas and refutation. By it's nature science admits that much is not known but lays a foundation for exploration. Science is also based on beliefand faith 1.You believe that there was a big bang theory...Do you have any repeatable ,verifable observation of the big bang theory? science says that energy cannot be destroyed, do you have any evidence of trying to destroy energy?Have you ever seen atoms?All these require alot of faith to believe that energy cannot be destroyed and atoms exist. 2.Your science states that for every action there is a reaction.Big Bang theory was a reaction, what caused the action? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:guru267 wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Science will solve this religious/superstition problem. Science and the Qur'an are in perfect sync... The Bible is the one that is terrified by science since it tries fool mankind things like that vegetation was created before the sun  Which verse yawa! Read the first page of Genesis... It says God created vegetation on the third day and the sun and moon were created on the fourth day! It goes on to say that the moon is a lesser light than the sun implying the moon has its own light... These are but a few of the scientific errors the Qur'an seeks to correct! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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guru267 wrote:Swenani wrote:guru267 wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Science will solve this religious/superstition problem. Science and the Qur'an are in perfect sync... The Bible is the one that is terrified by science since it tries fool mankind things like that vegetation was created before the sun Which verse yawa! Read the first page of Genesis... It says God created vegetation on the third day and the sun and moon were created on the fourth day! It goes on to say that the moon is a lesser light than the sun implying the moon has its own light... These are but a few of the scientific errors the Qur'an seeks to correct! CAn you prove that the moon gets itslight from the sunor you are using faith to advance an opinion? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Swenani wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:guru267 wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Science will solve this religious/superstition problem. Science and the Qur'an are in perfect sync... The Bible is the one that is terrified by science since it tries fool mankind things like that vegetation was created before the sun The problem with religion is that it is not arrived at through a logical examination of the facts but is arrived at through belief. Reading and re-reading some piece of writing until you convince yourself that what you are reading is the absolute truth. Science's objective consideration of the facts will win in the end. Both Koran and Bible have too much in mythical stories and focus on people repeating the same thing over and over again until they accept it as fact. This is what madrassas and Sunday schools are about. There is also a heavy reliance on emotionalism, fear (of hell or some other punishment) and closed thought. Science relies on proven fact and continuous search for knowledge. It requires a much higher level of intelligence and uncertainity to deal with it it but it will ultimately win out against beliefs. In science for all intents and purposes, once you die your matter just breaks down into smaller matter. There is no evidence of an afterlife. Mv ufanisi, Are you a believer in creation or the big bhang theory? Btw, do you know that science is also a religion? re·li·gion rəˈlijən/ noun noun: religion the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. by this definition, science is no religion. noun noun: science the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. this should answer your question no 1 as well. Science and belief are like oil and water. Science is more about repeatable, verifiable and observable proof. And it's always welcomes contrarian ideas and refutation. By it's nature science admits that much is not known but lays a foundation for exploration. Science is also based on beliefand faith 1.You believe that there was a big bang theory...Do you have any repeatable ,verifable observation of the big bang theory? science says that energy cannot be destroyed, do you have any evidence of trying to destroy energy?Have you ever seen atoms?All these require alot of faith to believe that energy cannot be destroyed and atoms exist. 2.Your science states that for every action there is a reaction.Big Bang theory was a reaction, what caused the action? Science is primarily driven by facts. A theory is a hypothesis based on the facts observed. So for example when science talks about evolution - there is physical evidence that there were dinosaurs on this planet. You can visit museums where you can see and perhaps touch the bones of a fossil. Even see a wooly mammoth almost intact. Religion on the other hand strikes me as a simple and lazy interpretation of events. There is not much research carried out nor facts or new knowledge to be relied upon. Everything that is not understood can simply be ascribed as the work of an unseen all powerful force. For example, religion will tell you, Ebola is a punishment from some supernatural force - no germ theory of disease there. Science will investigate and identify the causal organisms and try to come up with a cure. So when your people start dying, you will be rushing to scientists to help you with a cure. There's a strong reason why highly superstitious cultures such as Africa are very poor in producing scientific advancement. Everything has some sort of religious/superstitious explanation! And so nothing needs an structured investigation. Science is yet to full uncover the mystery behind the universe but it is a work in progress. But so far, it has proved and over time will continue to prove how simplistic a religious account of explaining physical and natural phenomena is.
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A NEW report published today by an independent commission has hinted that when it comes to being Akbar, Allah may be falling way off the pace.
The study revealed that the levels of Akbar-ness that Allah held for many years have taken a nose-dive in recent times, possibly due to instances in which Allah was declared to be very Akbar, or ‘great’ by people who were at the time not acting in a very Akbar manner.
‘Allahu Akbar’ is a traditional and commonplace expression in the Muslim faith, referred to as the Takbir, which means ‘God is great’ or ‘God is greatest’.
Due to the number of times a person or persons exclaimed the Takbir while committing acts of violence, commonly Jihadi in nature, people across the world have come to doubt just how Akbar Allah actually is.
Although predominantly used as a one-size-fits-all Islamic prayer, the Takbir gets more coverage in Western media when it is used by people engaged in very un-Akbar activities. Video footage of terrorists across the world yelling ‘Allahu Akbar’ while firing weapons at civilians or decapitating hostages has led to a global belief that if Allah really is that Akbar, surely he wouldn’t be all that happy these atrocities are continuing on a daily basis.
“Look, we’re all for this notion that Allah is in fact Akbar,” said Dr. Muamar O’Neill, who oversaw the project into public perception of Allah Akbarrity.
“It’s just that we so rarely see examples of this in the world. Whenever we see these exclamations in the West, it’s accompanied by either a scene of pure hatred such as a suicide bomber blowing himself up, or someone firing an automatic weapon at a crowd of people. The Akbar-ness we are hearing about does not tally with the not so great images we are seeing”.
Since many people are simply incapable of disassociating such a phrase from the context of it being used by fundamentalists, Dr. O’Neill has taken action.
“As such, we’ve had to downgrade Allah from “Akbar” to “potentially Akbar”. If Allah wants his old title back, then he and his followers will have to earn it. We’ll conduct our study again next year, but we do warn that further downgrades could see Allah facing “not Akbar at all” levels”.
Although Allah was unavailable for comment, some of his most vocal supporters have rubbished the report, claiming that Allah is and always will be Akbar while threatening death to those that disagree, which hasn’t helped Allah’s case for Akbarality in the slightest.All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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guru267 wrote:Swenani wrote:guru267 wrote:mv_ufanisi wrote:Science will solve this religious/superstition problem. Science and the Qur'an are in perfect sync... The Bible is the one that is terrified by science since it tries fool mankind things like that vegetation was created before the sun Which verse yawa! Read the first page of Genesis... It says God created vegetation on the third day and the sun and moon were created on the fourth day! It goes on to say that the moon is a lesser light than the sun implying the moon has its own light... These are but a few of the scientific errors the Qur'an seeks to correct! But sister, I am wondering ,,, Is not light is light. Does it make a difference to the plant which light is light? The plants could as well used the light. About the moon, I never got the idea it has its own light. If fact by 'lesser' before light I got the idea it has not its own light. I am just musing. Perhaps you could muse with me?
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The Islamic State continue their brutal reign in Mosul, Iraq where they released graphic pictures showing Islamic State militants executing gay men by throwing them off a building, public execution of suspected thieves by shooting them in the head, stoning to death of suspected adulterous women etc..and just in case someone claims this is the work of America or Western media, please note these pictures were sourced from IS own media centre production. Link - https://news.vice.com/ar...m_source=vicenewstwitter
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[quote=ecstacy]The Islamic State continue their brutal reign in Mosul, Iraq where they released graphic pictures showing Islamic State militants executing gay men by throwing them off a building, public execution of suspected thieves by shooting them in the head, stoning to death of suspected adulterous women etc..and just in case someone claims this is the work of America or Western media, please note these pictures were sourced from IS own media centre production. Link - https://news.vice.com/ar..._source=vicenewstwitter[/quote] Seems Jubilee govt is learning from ISIS,I have seen graphic pictures showing kids being tear gased If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:[quote=ecstacy]The Islamic State continue their brutal reign in Mosul, Iraq where they released graphic pictures showing Islamic State militants executing gay men by throwing them off a building, public execution of suspected thieves by shooting them in the head, stoning to death of suspected adulterous women etc..and just in case someone claims this is the work of America or Western media, please note these pictures were sourced from IS own media centre production. Link - https://news.vice.com/ar..._source=vicenewstwitter[/quote] Seems Jubilee govt is learning from ISIS,I have seen graphic pictures showing kids being tear gased Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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