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KENOL KOBIL .... 2012
mwekez@ji
#2501 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:08:12 AM
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Kausha wrote:
Deal is very much on, 'tulizeni boli'


Tell dem broda
Kausha
#2502 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:10:09 AM
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This taxation law is poorly worded. You obviously know very well KK will point to the lack of capital gains taxes transactions involving listed company shares, seek clarity on which law supercedes the other and cite BBK as a precedent. I think the ambiguity is deliberate to extort some bribes from KK but otherwise the legislation was targeted at exploration companies to avoid the Tullow - Heritage scenario in Uganda.
VituVingiSana
#2503 Posted : Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:54:20 PM
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Kausha wrote:
This taxation law is poorly worded. You obviously know very well KK will point to the lack of capital gains taxes transactions involving listed company shares, seek clarity on which law supercedes the other and cite BBK as a precedent. I think the ambiguity is deliberate to extort some bribes from KK but otherwise the legislation was targeted at exploration companies to avoid the Tullow - Heritage scenario in Uganda.
Nyoike strikes again. If Jubilee wins... this is one chap I do not want re-appointed.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#2504 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 4:24:20 PM
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And the deal is dead... SELL, SELL, SELL...
(In a weird, morbid way... I want it to fall below 10)
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#2505 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 4:38:04 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
And the deal is dead... SELL, SELL, SELL...
(In a weird, morbid way... I want it to fall below 10)

I blame the Commercial Court Division for dragging their feet in determining disputes. That is tantamount to stifling investment in the country.

GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
murchr
#2506 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 4:40:50 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
And the deal is dead... SELL, SELL, SELL...
(In a weird, morbid way... I want it to fall below 10)


smile rink?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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the deal
#2507 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:09:59 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
And the deal is dead... SELL, SELL, SELL...
(In a weird, morbid way... I want it to fall below 10)

Interesting a great company caught up in a storm...great buying opportunity.
hisah
#2508 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:16:28 PM
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murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
And the deal is dead... SELL, SELL, SELL...
(In a weird, morbid way... I want it to fall below 10)


smile rink?

rink - http://bit.ly/YO7ypl
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2509 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:18:29 PM
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the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
And the deal is dead... SELL, SELL, SELL...
(In a weird, morbid way... I want it to fall below 10)

Interesting a great company caught up in a storm...great buying opportunity.

What timing... I can hardly wait for the market to open post elections. This one will be hammered proper then those ulcers inducing results.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
guru267
#2510 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:38:34 PM
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I TOLD YOU SO!

when the guru speaks.... smile
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mlennyma
#2511 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:49:53 PM
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When i developed cold feet and felt the deal would disapoint i was told am not a share holder and was courageous to sell at 15.50.now i own nothing like kk
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
the deal
#2512 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 5:51:58 PM
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Kenol Kobil will return to profit making ways in 2013. Life goes on.
VituVingiSana
#2513 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 7:51:27 PM
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Warren Buffett: Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years.

Graham, a British-born economist and former Columbia professor who died in 1976, is considered the creator of value investing. Warren Buffett said Graham's book, "The Intelligent Investor," "changed my life."

Graham focused on the importance of buying underpriced stocks. Buffett embraced that idea but took it a step further -- focusing on buying "wonderful companies at wonderful prices" and holding on to them rather than simply buying any company that appeared to be a bargain.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#2514 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 8:20:45 PM
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the deal wrote:
Kenol Kobil will return to profit making ways in 2013. Life goes on.


Just Wait until the problems of price controls show up again in 2013... After that, nothing will save the share price!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#2515 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 8:26:21 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Warren Buffett: Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years.

Graham, a British-born economist and former Columbia professor who died in 1976, is considered the creator of value investing. Warren Buffett said Graham's book, "The Intelligent Investor," "changed my life."

Graham focused on the importance of buying underpriced stocks. Buffett embraced that idea but took it a step further -- focusing on buying "wonderful companies at wonderful prices" and holding on to them rather than simply buying any company that appeared to be a bargain.


Oil marketers in Kenya/Africa are constantly battling Price controls, ERC, KPC, vulnerable currency, hopeless margins etc etc

What makes KK so wonderful??

didn't shell and chevron know what they were doing when they exited this business??
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
holycow
#2516 Posted : Friday, March 01, 2013 8:28:31 PM
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Been hoping the the deal goes off. Time for me to get back. I did not like Puma. Let KK be Wanjikus.
mlennyma
#2517 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:38:49 AM
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When it slid to 12.60 last week the devil tempted me to buy but i overcome the temptation,even at 9bob iam scared by historical poor perfomance and pullouts by kenyan oil companies,and worse still during this price control error.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
sparkly
#2518 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:30:20 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
When it slid to 12.60 last week the devil tempted me to buy but i overcome the temptation,even at 9bob iam scared by historical poor perfomance and pullouts by kenyan oil companies,and worse still during this price control error.


The timing of the cancellation of this deal is suspect.

Call me paranoid but i will be checking the accounts to see if any of the major shareholders esp the ones that go by the names like "Barclays Bank Nominees a/c no xxxx" sold during the deal fiasco.

I have an haunch that someone sold to raise money for campaigns, and the haunch just wont go away.
Life is short. Live passionately.
the deal
#2519 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:07:27 AM
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The whole market could be on sell next week pray for peaceful elections.
Aguytrying
#2520 Posted : Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:43:05 AM
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Lining up my cash next week as I try and get some bargains. Kk top of my list, patience timing. Then pulling the trigger.
Feels good to have a potential buying opportunity again after so long
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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