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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi
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When the clouds turned grey :( KQ is currently trading below its restructuring price! Makes absolutely no sense..  KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:When the clouds turned grey :( KQ is currently trading below its restructuring price! Makes absolutely no sense..  Markets are inherently irrational. Besides, if KQ trades at its true value (based on the books, not hopes and desires), you'll be pushed deeper into the red.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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rwitre wrote:Let's see how wrong "experienced NSE investors" can be. I'll use bitcoin, which an elder has called takataka some time back, while strongly vouching for KQ.
As of 16th March 2019, KQ price per share: Sh. 5.56 BTC price: $3984
Will compare percentage increase/decrease after a year.
My opinion for the minority shareholders trapped in KQ: You can sell, take the loss, and plough all that cash into some BTC. It will recoup your costs, and earn you a tidy profit.
Plus let's face it-at this point KQ is just frustrating y'all (yes, even more than those in BTC with its wild price swings). So many blindspots, hidden players calling the shots, still in loss territory, and minority shareholders not knowing who is looking out for their interests.
But am not a prophet, so let's check back in a year.
Ni hayo tu kwa sasa. By the way this is still a valid escape for those looking to recoup from their KQ losses.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi
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rwitre wrote:rwitre wrote:Let's see how wrong "experienced NSE investors" can be. I'll use bitcoin, which an elder has called takataka some time back, while strongly vouching for KQ.
As of 16th March 2019, KQ price per share: Sh. 5.56 BTC price: $3984
Will compare percentage increase/decrease after a year.
My opinion for the minority shareholders trapped in KQ: You can sell, take the loss, and plough all that cash into some BTC. It will recoup your costs, and earn you a tidy profit.
Plus let's face it-at this point KQ is just frustrating y'all (yes, even more than those in BTC with its wild price swings). So many blindspots, hidden players calling the shots, still in loss territory, and minority shareholders not knowing who is looking out for their interests.
But am not a prophet, so let's check back in a year.
Ni hayo tu kwa sasa. By the way this is still a valid escape for those looking to recoup from their KQ losses. Heri nikunywe maji ya sewage Kibera kuliko kugusa Bitcoin.. It's just not my cup of tea KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:rwitre wrote:rwitre wrote:Let's see how wrong "experienced NSE investors" can be. I'll use bitcoin, which an elder has called takataka some time back, while strongly vouching for KQ.
As of 16th March 2019, KQ price per share: Sh. 5.56 BTC price: $3984
Will compare percentage increase/decrease after a year.
My opinion for the minority shareholders trapped in KQ: You can sell, take the loss, and plough all that cash into some BTC. It will recoup your costs, and earn you a tidy profit.
Plus let's face it-at this point KQ is just frustrating y'all (yes, even more than those in BTC with its wild price swings). So many blindspots, hidden players calling the shots, still in loss territory, and minority shareholders not knowing who is looking out for their interests.
But am not a prophet, so let's check back in a year.
Ni hayo tu kwa sasa. By the way this is still a valid escape for those looking to recoup from their KQ losses. Heri nikunywe maji ya sewage Kibera kuliko kugusa Bitcoin.. It's just not my cup of tea  Haya....msiseme hamkuambiwa
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi
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rwitre wrote:obiero wrote:rwitre wrote:rwitre wrote:Let's see how wrong "experienced NSE investors" can be. I'll use bitcoin, which an elder has called takataka some time back, while strongly vouching for KQ.
As of 16th March 2019, KQ price per share: Sh. 5.56 BTC price: $3984
Will compare percentage increase/decrease after a year.
My opinion for the minority shareholders trapped in KQ: You can sell, take the loss, and plough all that cash into some BTC. It will recoup your costs, and earn you a tidy profit.
Plus let's face it-at this point KQ is just frustrating y'all (yes, even more than those in BTC with its wild price swings). So many blindspots, hidden players calling the shots, still in loss territory, and minority shareholders not knowing who is looking out for their interests.
But am not a prophet, so let's check back in a year.
Ni hayo tu kwa sasa. By the way this is still a valid escape for those looking to recoup from their KQ losses. Heri nikunywe maji ya sewage Kibera kuliko kugusa Bitcoin.. It's just not my cup of tea  Haya....msiseme hamkuambiwa Remember me 😁 KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 2,016 Location: Kitale
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obiero wrote:rwitre wrote:rwitre wrote:Let's see how wrong "experienced NSE investors" can be. I'll use bitcoin, which an elder has called takataka some time back, while strongly vouching for KQ.
As of 16th March 2019, KQ price per share: Sh. 5.56 BTC price: $3984
Will compare percentage increase/decrease after a year.
My opinion for the minority shareholders trapped in KQ: You can sell, take the loss, and plough all that cash into some BTC. It will recoup your costs, and earn you a tidy profit.
Plus let's face it-at this point KQ is just frustrating y'all (yes, even more than those in BTC with its wild price swings). So many blindspots, hidden players calling the shots, still in loss territory, and minority shareholders not knowing who is looking out for their interests.
But am not a prophet, so let's check back in a year.
Ni hayo tu kwa sasa. By the way this is still a valid escape for those looking to recoup from their KQ losses. Heri nikunywe maji ya sewage Kibera kuliko kugusa Bitcoin.. It's just not my cup of tea  Bitcoin ni hewa ndio inauzwa. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/8/2018 Posts: 507 Location: Nairobi
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Local banks take Sh8 billion hit in KQ sharesQuote: KQ, as the national carrier is known by its international code, in 2017 issued the lenders with 2.2 billion shares to settle their loans amounting to Sh17 billion.
The shares were acquired at a price of Sh7.78 each but the airline’s stock price has since dropped 51.7 percent to close at Sh3.75 on Friday, resulting in the lenders’ paper loss of Sh8.6 billion.
This means that banks will find it difficult to sell their holdings at a profit, with KQ’s continued losses and wipeout of shareholder funds making a recovery less likely in the medium term.
The share price drop also hurts the lenders’ plans to sell an additional 663.5 million shares through the NSE over the next nine years. KQ is to issue the second batch of shares at a similar price of Sh7.78 each upon request and the lenders are to sell them immediately in the open market.
Guarantees
Losses on the second group of shares are, however, expected to be partly mitigated by government guarantees.
KQ reported a net loss of Sh7.5 billion in the year ended December when its costs surpassed its revenue significantly.
The new loss sent the airline back to a negative equity of Sh2.4 billion, meaning that the recent capital restructuring moves are inadequate and the company urgently needs more funds to stay aloft.
Individual investors in the national carrier have fared even worse since most of them will only break even when the stock trades at Sh21.2. This means that they are sitting on a paper loss of 82 per cent.
Yaani even when price recovers there will be an avalanche of supply waiting
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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rwitre wrote:Local banks take Sh8 billion hit in KQ sharesQuote: KQ, as the national carrier is known by its international code, in 2017 issued the lenders with 2.2 billion shares to settle their loans amounting to Sh17 billion.
The shares were acquired at a price of Sh7.78 each but the airline’s stock price has since dropped 51.7 percent to close at Sh3.75 on Friday, resulting in the lenders’ paper loss of Sh8.6 billion.
This means that banks will find it difficult to sell their holdings at a profit, with KQ’s continued losses and wipeout of shareholder funds making a recovery less likely in the medium term.
The share price drop also hurts the lenders’ plans to sell an additional 663.5 million shares through the NSE over the next nine years. KQ is to issue the second batch of shares at a similar price of Sh7.78 each upon request and the lenders are to sell them immediately in the open market.
Guarantees
Losses on the second group of shares are, however, expected to be partly mitigated by government guarantees.
KQ reported a net loss of Sh7.5 billion in the year ended December when its costs surpassed its revenue significantly.
The new loss sent the airline back to a negative equity of Sh2.4 billion, meaning that the recent capital restructuring moves are inadequate and the company urgently needs more funds to stay aloft.
Individual investors in the national carrier have fared even worse since most of them will only break even when the stock trades at Sh21.2. This means that they are sitting on a paper loss of 82 per cent.
Yaani even when price recovers there will be an avalanche of supply waiting The lenders were scammed into converting debt to equity. The wise ones should had sold immediately they broke even (if at all) Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi
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I have been saying for ages that the members/shareholders of KQLC should fully impair their holdings in KQ/KQLC. https://www.businessdail...11630-8npk19z/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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