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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
obiero
#12441 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2019 9:56:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
[quote=VituVingiSana]Meanwhile, KQ keeps pleasing its customers.
https://twitter.com/Of_t...tus/1126084585731891206[/quote]
Shida za kujitakia

KQ ABP 4.26
nairobby
#12442 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 9:28:09 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/18/2019
Posts: 185
Location: kenya
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize
obiero
#12443 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 9:56:39 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize

It is impossible that the minority shareholders will be thrown out without an actual price. The shares are not worth zero.. If KQLC are getting paid, then KLM, KQ ESOP and minority shareholders will get paid.. Remember KQLC are no longer creditors but shareholders of ordinary shares.. They converted their debts to equity just 19 months ago at KES 8.52 per share. Will they take less?

KQ ABP 4.26
Spikes
#12444 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 10:05:35 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize

It is impossible that the minority shareholders will be thrown out without an actual price. The shares are not worth zero.. If KQLC are getting paid, then KLM, KQ ESOP and minority shareholders will get paid.. Remember KQLC are no longer creditors but shareholders of ordinary shares.. They converted their debts to equity just 19 months ago at KES 8.52 per share. Will they take less?


I agree with you 100%.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Ericsson
#12445 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 10:10:48 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize

It is impossible that the minority shareholders will be thrown out without an actual price. The shares are not worth zero.. If KQLC are getting paid, then KLM, KQ ESOP and minority shareholders will get paid.. Remember KQLC are no longer creditors but shareholders of ordinary shares.. They converted their debts to equity just 19 months ago at KES 8.52 per share. Will they take less?


8.52 to buyout the remaining shareholders is a fair price.
That comes to about ksh.27bn needed for buyout
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#12446 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 10:12:36 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize

It is impossible that the minority shareholders will be thrown out without an actual price. The shares are not worth zero.. If KQLC are getting paid, then KLM, KQ ESOP and minority shareholders will get paid.. Remember KQLC are no longer creditors but shareholders of ordinary shares.. They converted their debts to equity just 19 months ago at KES 8.52 per share. Will they take less?
I too support GoK buying out KQLC at 8.52 (or more) and only KQLC's shares in KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Spikes
#12447 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 10:16:24 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize

It is impossible that the minority shareholders will be thrown out without an actual price. The shares are not worth zero.. If KQLC are getting paid, then KLM, KQ ESOP and minority shareholders will get paid.. Remember KQLC are no longer creditors but shareholders of ordinary shares.. They converted their debts to equity just 19 months ago at KES 8.52 per share. Will they take less?
I too support GoK buying out KQLC at 8.52 (or more) and only KQLC's shares in KQ.


Will minority shareholders be left hopeless if government resolves for a buyout?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
rwitre
#12448 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 10:26:04 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 3/8/2018
Posts: 507
Location: Nairobi
Spikes wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize

It is impossible that the minority shareholders will be thrown out without an actual price. The shares are not worth zero.. If KQLC are getting paid, then KLM, KQ ESOP and minority shareholders will get paid.. Remember KQLC are no longer creditors but shareholders of ordinary shares.. They converted their debts to equity just 19 months ago at KES 8.52 per share. Will they take less?
I too support GoK buying out KQLC at 8.52 (or more) and only KQLC's shares in KQ.


Will minority shareholders be left hopeless if government resolves for a buyout?


Minority shareholders are not a priority for the government anywhere.
obiero
#12449 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 11:20:58 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
rwitre wrote:
Spikes wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize

It is impossible that the minority shareholders will be thrown out without an actual price. The shares are not worth zero.. If KQLC are getting paid, then KLM, KQ ESOP and minority shareholders will get paid.. Remember KQLC are no longer creditors but shareholders of ordinary shares.. They converted their debts to equity just 19 months ago at KES 8.52 per share. Will they take less?
I too support GoK buying out KQLC at 8.52 (or more) and only KQLC's shares in KQ.


Will minority shareholders be left hopeless if government resolves for a buyout?


Minority shareholders are not a priority for the government anywhere.

The question here is about legality in treatment of an ordinary share in KQ.. There will be no differentiation incase nationalization is undertaken, unless GoK wants court cases by the other shareholders. KES 8.52 is the new minimum fair price

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#12450 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 11:53:25 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
Spikes wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
nairobby wrote:
obiero wrote:
Invepreneur wrote:
obiero wrote:
rwitre wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share price at below ksh.4


Ksh 4.00 post consolidation or Ksh 1.00 pre consolidation. Something is not right here, KQ had better do something fast to regain investor confidence. I hope MJ didn't scam shareholders by promising a rights issue after consolidation.

At 10:22:32 the grand total demand for KQ shares is ZERO. Latest traded price in -10% compared to 7th May 2019.

Either @spikes or @sprakly said he is waiting for 2/-.


2 Bob would be 0.50 cts equivalent,minority shareholders were played bigtime,I hope something comes up soon.


I am thinking of buying additional stock sums gradually effective tomorrow. I'm currently at All Saints Cathedral seeking the spirit of discernment in my stated move


Pumping more cash in? Your investment journey will make a nice case study one day

I literally have no choice! I'm down 86%.. Imagine that.. Selling now is not at option. I would rather risk it all


Sunk cost fallacy?

Sunk cost reality! I bought 96,100 KQ shares AT KES 2,303,517 and now they are worth KES 336,350.. I do not need that loose change. I would rather take a gamble on the side of KQLC minimum projected sale price of KES 8.52


Wait for it to go even lower before averaging down imo. Or don't do it altogether, minority shareholders may not be guaranteed of anything if GoK decides to Nationalize

It is impossible that the minority shareholders will be thrown out without an actual price. The shares are not worth zero.. If KQLC are getting paid, then KLM, KQ ESOP and minority shareholders will get paid.. Remember KQLC are no longer creditors but shareholders of ordinary shares.. They converted their debts to equity just 19 months ago at KES 8.52 per share. Will they take less?
I too support GoK buying out KQLC at 8.52 (or more) and only KQLC's shares in KQ.


Will minority shareholders be left hopeless if government resolves for a buyout?


Minority shareholders are not a priority for the government anywhere.

The question here is about legality in treatment of an ordinary share in KQ.. There will be no differentiation incase nationalization is undertaken, unless GoK wants court cases by the other shareholders. KES 8.52 is the new minimum fair price
GoK should only buy KQLC's shares. Or buy KQLC itself which has no other assets but KQ shares. That way GoK can avoid having to buy others' shares at a premium. Alternatively, agree with KQLC and KLM to delist but not as a takeover. Once delisted, GoK can enter into a deal to buy KQLC's shares and just KQLC. Or even KLM.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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