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EPL 2011-2012
freiks
#1211 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:43:21 PM
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reddevil wrote:
@bebeto...you and Hargo may have a point...just maybe...

But this discussion of United being good or not has been on forever...this is current crop is not good, period, but can be made to perform...

United are just pathetic...the rot starts from the coaching staff...I have said this since Carlos Quieroz(sp) left for Portugal...Mike Phelan is crap crap kabisa...someone needs to take charge Sir Alex is just stubborn or seriously hampered in terms of resources...by the way I really don't think those American owners have money...so this PR should just stop...please!

VDS, Scholes, Garry, Roy, Ronaldo etc have left..no replacements or no one has been developed from within to take those roles...

You cannot rotate a team like njugu karanga and expect results, the heck that is why its called a team, everyone needs to perform a specific task...you cannot perform if you have not clue which position you will be playing the next match...

I sometimes wonder, does SAF watch the likes of Barca, Real, at play...can he really say he manages a team...

Something drastic needs to happen at OT or a trophy-less season beckons, fellow United fans, if you watch all United games like some of us do...you know exactly what I mean...don't be fooled...

Manchester United Forever...


I thought once Fergie told Wenger that he cannot win with boys. The only experienced players they have right now is Giggsy and Rooney, all others are boys
Life is an endless adventure
Jus Blazin
#1212 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 5:55:57 PM
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freiks wrote:

I thought once Fergie told Wenger that he cannot win with boys. The only experienced players they have right now is Giggsy and Rooney, all others are boys

Hata kama ni kuchukia team, there's experience in it. Valencia, Evra, Vidic, Rio, Nani, Berbatov, Carrick, Fletcher, etc. The problem is some for instance stand-in captain Evra are performing below par.

Like reddevil amesema, there's a team and it people have specific roles. For instance, having Valencia play as a rightback is not wise when Rafael is back. With Valencia on the right and Nani on the left, the damage the team can do to others is immense. I'd prefer seeing Welbeck on the starting lineup linking with Rooney, somehow Chicharito is misfiring and Berbatov at times cannot be reliable over a three, four or even five game period.

Midfield, Carrick and Anderson should hold it. Defense, I hope Smalling is back, then we can have Jones pushing into defensive midfield, to compete with Carrick and Anderson, with Rafael on right back, Smalling and Rio centrebacks and kichungi Evra (he's the weakest link so far). Hapo kwa post, eh, for Sunday's game, I'll slightly go for De Gea because of his reflexes, and anyway, every keeper has his bad days in the office, hata San Iker.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
smano
#1213 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:35:18 PM
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@Jus Blazin,@reddevil n @bebeto, I agree with you all 100%

I was the first to criticize Hargreaves when he complained about the United medical team but maybe he had a point. Have you noticed City have not had any serious injuries this season?While I agree that most City players are built more like rugby players than footballers,and that Vidic's injury could have happened to anyone,I feel like players are rushed back by the medical team,case in point Cleverley. After ankle ligament damage,he came back only for the injury to re-occur. I kid you not,save for Vidic,Cleverley has been the biggest Man Utd loss,even Rooney stopped his prolific form in front of goal afterwards. He had a way of pulling defenses to the middle leaving the wingers to send unattended to passes in the box.

Anyway,18 games are a lot of games. For me the FA tie with City would only be a confidence booster and a measure of revenge,we're not assured of winning the FA even if we were to beat City. Unfortunately it is so hard to get a creative midfielder in Jan window so am resigned to any buys happening only in Summer.A goal differrence that had been reduced to 5 has now gone back to 11 after just 2 games. The last time we lost 3 premier league games in a row was 2001 and before that 1996. Still we went on to win the league (96/97) but of course this time it'll be harder.Bolton,Arsenal,Stoke,Chelsea are not easy matches but I know we can respond,this is Man Utd after all - been there done that
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TAZ
#1214 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 8:11:00 AM
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At Arsenal players take too long to return from injury, hata a simple sprain can take more than a month to recover. Wenger is always too cautious when it comes to the fitness of his players, he has to be 100% sure that you're ok before he declares you match fit. This is in most cases has worked against us, our players take too long to recover from injuries.

For Man Utd its the complete opposite, players are usually rushed backed from injury. If there's even a small chance that you can play then you'll atleast make the bench. How many times have you been surprised by sudden "shock" returns from injury by some of the players....Rooney - when Man utd were knocked out by Bayern in CL, Vidic - earlier this season, Cleverly after his first injury, Chicharito after the A. Villa game, Rio Ferdinand against Spurs etc. I know sometimes you have to do that when there's no other alternative but it might be costly.

At the start of this season Arsenal made a starting offer of 6m to Bolton for Gary Cahill but their Chairman and Manager said they felt insulted by that offer and the word derisory didn't even cover it....now they've accepted almost the same offer from Chelsea after "realising" he's only 5 months away from being a free agent.
dossy7
#1215 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 11:41:38 AM
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Maichblack wewe iko wapi?
Kenya ni yetu sisi sote
reddevil
#1216 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 11:44:51 AM
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@Taz...very true...for once I agree with you...
The shock returns from injury are indeed shocking...add to your list Anderson...As far as some of us knew he was not to return until sometime in Feb...question is how long is he going to last...jury is out there...

What United need is an overhaul of their system (medical staff, coaching staff, scouts, and oh...Owners)...basking in what worked last 10 years will certainly not help their course...lest they are prepared to go the Liverpool way...we the fans will find that very very hard to swallow...

NB: for as long as United continue being owned by American's I see doom, Liverpool and Arsenal likewise...for Arsenal at-least their is a neutral effect from Russia...
McReggae
#1217 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 11:47:12 AM
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...and now Fergie showing interest on fat Frank!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
dajoe
#1218 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 11:49:28 AM
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is there a fantasy football league for wazuans?
kelele.com
#1219 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 11:59:15 AM
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Theo Walcot will finally win the medal that has eluded him in his entire sporting career. I hear he has been included in the Great Britain 4x100 metres olympic team.
Sina Signature. NKT
bkismat
#1220 Posted : Friday, January 06, 2012 2:18:33 PM
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Half term report. lol
http://www1.skysports.co...7413307/Half-term-report
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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