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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#12031 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2019 1:40:13 PM
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Based on discussions with KQ management though, KPMG said the carrier was in breach of certain undisclosed “financial covenants” as at June 2018, and received waivers from lenders for the financial year ending December 31, 2018.

The report recommends that JKIA be run by a private-sector operator to maximise revenues and profits.


Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#12032 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2019 7:02:50 PM
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Kq share price goes below sh.5
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#12033 Posted : Friday, March 29, 2019 8:06:21 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Kq share price goes below sh.5

One trade only

KQ ABP 4.26
Impunity
#12034 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2019 12:18:07 AM
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Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kq share price goes below sh.5

One trade only


Sub 2 bob on the way.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

ArrestedDev
#12035 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2019 1:54:51 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

Based on discussions with KQ management though, KPMG said the carrier was in breach of certain undisclosed “financial covenants” as at June 2018, and received waivers from lenders for the financial year ending December 31, 2018.

The report recommends that JKIA be run by a private-sector operator to maximise revenues and profits.




I guess Dec 2018 results have been misquoted in the article. KPMG could not have accessed the 2018 results since they are not yet released officially.

As far as I am concerned it is the 2017 results which had such a statement. It implies they were in arrears with some loan repayments.

I do not think after the restructuring there were further loan default cases since a large portion of the debt was converted to equity.
obiero
#12036 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2019 5:36:21 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

Based on discussions with KQ management though, KPMG said the carrier was in breach of certain undisclosed “financial covenants” as at June 2018, and received waivers from lenders for the financial year ending December 31, 2018.

The report recommends that JKIA be run by a private-sector operator to maximise revenues and profits.




I guess Dec 2018 results have been misquoted in the article. KPMG could not have accessed the 2018 results since they are not yet released officially.

As far as I am concerned it is the 2017 results which had such a statement. It implies they were in arrears with some loan repayments.

I do not think after the restructuring there were further loan default cases since a large portion of the debt was converted to equity.

I feel sad and sorry for the KQ board and management, Ngunze was hounded out in a huff and now the people are demanding for more heads to roll. Everyone in the streets including hawkers, news anchors, politicians, cobblers and @vvs seem to imagine that they have better ability to successfully turn around KQ than Sebastian and Michael.. For sure the next CEO will struggle, based on overall negative energy circumstances. As often stated here, 30% of KQ staff must be culled to get a culture shift. The problem with KQ is thug like organizational culture supported by a blind KAWU & KALPA, not fundamentals of finance

KQ ABP 4.26
maka
#12037 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2019 7:25:50 AM
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obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

Based on discussions with KQ management though, KPMG said the carrier was in breach of certain undisclosed “financial covenants” as at June 2018, and received waivers from lenders for the financial year ending December 31, 2018.

The report recommends that JKIA be run by a private-sector operator to maximise revenues and profits.




I guess Dec 2018 results have been misquoted in the article. KPMG could not have accessed the 2018 results since they are not yet released officially.

As far as I am concerned it is the 2017 results which had such a statement. It implies they were in arrears with some loan repayments.

I do not think after the restructuring there were further loan default cases since a large portion of the debt was converted to equity.

I feel sad and sorry for the KQ board and management, Ngunze was hounded out in a huff and now the people are demanding for more heads to roll. Everyone in the streets including hawkers, news anchors, politicians, cobblers and @vvs seem to imagine that they have better ability to successfully turn around KQ than Sebastian and Michael.. For sure the next CEO will struggle, based on overall negative energy circumstances. As often stated here, 30% of KQ staff must be culled to get a culture shift. The problem with KQ is thug like organizational culture supported by a blind KAWU & KALPA, not fundamentals of finance


As usual you are wrong... Ok on Mbuvi you are right he was duped...The real story about him was that CS Macharia never liked him... So he vanged up with Gichinga and co used KALPA to make things very difficult for him... He had to step aside.... Mbuvi's idea of shrinking then expanding woukd habe worked? Sebastian's all out expansion drive will take KQ deeper into debt and crazy losses will be loaded.

Organizational culture has nothing to do with the mess at KQ... Like I said earlier staff morale is pretty low imagine never having an increment from 2012...7 years... Someone said here the staff can opt to leave... Well a sizeable number have left leaving you with greenhorns who cant handle shit.... Address the underlying issues @Obiero...Please.
possunt quia posse videntur
Yliett
#12038 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2019 7:47:19 AM
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I am not investing in airline companies since many years. I don’t think that it is sustainable business considering high amount of low cost companies who are taking whole market. On the other side, price of oil is also killer of profitability for air company, so no money there
VituVingiSana
#12039 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2019 8:17:54 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

Based on discussions with KQ management though, KPMG said the carrier was in breach of certain undisclosed “financial covenants” as at June 2018, and received waivers from lenders for the financial year ending December 31, 2018.

The report recommends that JKIA be run by a private-sector operator to maximise revenues and profits.




I guess Dec 2018 results have been misquoted in the article. KPMG could not have accessed the 2018 results since they are not yet released officially.

As far as I am concerned it is the 2017 results which had such a statement. It implies they were in arrears with some loan repayments.

I do not think after the restructuring there were further loan default cases since a large portion of the debt was converted to equity.
Can't they get information about waivers for FY 2018 without having knowledge of the FY 2018 results/performance?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#12040 Posted : Saturday, March 30, 2019 8:23:11 AM
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Posts: 18,346
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obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

Based on discussions with KQ management though, KPMG said the carrier was in breach of certain undisclosed “financial covenants” as at June 2018, and received waivers from lenders for the financial year ending December 31, 2018.

The report recommends that JKIA be run by a private-sector operator to maximise revenues and profits.




I guess Dec 2018 results have been misquoted in the article. KPMG could not have accessed the 2018 results since they are not yet released officially.

As far as I am concerned it is the 2017 results which had such a statement. It implies they were in arrears with some loan repayments.

I do not think after the restructuring there were further loan default cases since a large portion of the debt was converted to equity.

I feel sad and sorry for the KQ board and management, Ngunze was hounded out in a huff and now the people are demanding for more heads to roll. Everyone in the streets including hawkers, news anchors, politicians, cobblers and @vvs seem to imagine that they have better ability to successfully turn around KQ than Sebastian and Michael.. For sure the next CEO will struggle, based on overall negative energy circumstances. As often stated here, 30% of KQ staff must be culled to get a culture shift. The problem with KQ is thug like organizational culture supported by a blind KAWU & KALPA, not fundamentals of finance


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Old KQ should be taken out into the yard and shot dead.
Let a New KQ arise. MJ, SM, Ohana & @VVS can run it. Applause
Take only the assets (& associated liabilities) that are needed.
Fire all the staff. Hire only those New KQ needs and wants.
Let the creditors take a haircut. Yes, even KQLC. GoK should make good on the guarantees.
The shareholders will be wiped out lakini shauri yao. Watu wapambane na hali yao.
The creditors will own New KQ.

Let the New KQ rise like the Phoenix. Let it expand sensibly. Profitably. Over time, without the burdens of Old KQ, it can focus on PERFORMANCE and not PR, paid Wazuans, tenderpreneurs, Freeloaders, etc.

In the future the creditors can sell off their shares in New KQ. Or get dividends. This will mitigate their losses in Old KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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