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Kusadikika
#111 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 2:57:50 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Lawyer for the suspects now says billions seized are not fake. That there is no crime in someone putting their valuables, including forex in a safety box.



So the Government has just robbed some people of their $500 million dollars??d'oh! d'oh!

Could it also be a tactic. I once heard of this tactic where a guy is arrested with 1 stone of bangi. When they get to court and he is charged and the 1 stone is presented as evidence the guy denies the charge and says, "your honor, I did not have only one stone, I had one gunia with 20 stones. They should produce the other 19." Apparently then the case changed and now it became a case of tampering with evidence with the prosecutor on the spot.

These guys will shift the case from what it is to being a case about the evidence tampering and they all know the Kenya police are always careless and they made mistakes. With good lawyers these guys will walk. You can rarely get a watertight case when you are playing to the gallery.
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tycho
#112 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:36:31 PM
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2012 wrote:
tycho wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Lawyer for the suspects now says billions seized are not fake. That there is no crime in someone putting their valuables, including forex in a safety box.



The norm in Kenya appears to be, arrest then conduct investigations later. Oppressive methods if you ask me...


@tycho, that's the norm everywhere else too. You cannot have a watertight case in that short time, you may even know for sure that you have the right thug but he/she can get away on small technicalities.
In Kenya, you have to be presented in court within 48 hours to take plea and maybe reduce the work of investigators by pleading guilty. Even a murder case where you catch the murderer red handed or even with a confession needs to be investigated and it could take weeks but that doesn't mean the criminal should be out free in the meantime.


If it was an abrupt case where bank officials called the police and reported fraudsters had paid them a visit with fake dollars then it may be reasonable on grounds of probable cause to make an arrest and continue with investigation.

But some of these serious cases don't run along such lines unless you want to botch up the entire proceedings. The norm then becomes one of building a solid case before jumping...

I think it's a matter of technique. For example if the main suspects are in custody and they are savvy enough, then probability is that you will get little info from them. Any other people in the crime who haven't been arrested will get into emergency mode and take whatever precautions they had.
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Angelica _ann
#113 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2019 6:23:46 PM
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Suspects linked to Sh2b fake currency freed on cash bail


Eric Adede and four other suspects arrested over the Sh2 billion fake currency seized at Barclays Bank, Queensway Branch in Nairobi have been freed on bail.

The court on Tuesday released Eric Adede on Sh1 million bail while the other suspects were freed on Sh200,000 bail.

Adede was arrested alongside Ahmed Shah, Elizabeth Muthoni, and Irene Wairimu Kimani.
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newfarer
#114 Posted : Tuesday, March 26, 2019 7:30:13 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:

Suspects linked to Sh2b fake currency freed on cash bail


Eric Adede and four other suspects arrested over the Sh2 billion fake currency seized at Barclays Bank, Queensway Branch in Nairobi have been freed on bail.

The court on Tuesday released Eric Adede on Sh1 million bail while the other suspects were freed on Sh200,000 bail.

Adede was arrested alongside Ahmed Shah, Elizabeth Muthoni, and Irene Wairimu Kimani.

korti bandia. it's hard to trust Our courts
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masukuma
#115 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:52:57 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:

Suspects linked to Sh2b fake currency freed on cash bail


Eric Adede and four other suspects arrested over the Sh2 billion fake currency seized at Barclays Bank, Queensway Branch in Nairobi have been freed on bail.

The court on Tuesday released Eric Adede on Sh1 million bail while the other suspects were freed on Sh200,000 bail.

Adede was arrested alongside Ahmed Shah, Elizabeth Muthoni, and Irene Wairimu Kimani.

korti bandia. it's hard to trust Our courts

Why not? You are only in custody if you can interfere with the process of investigation. if they have all the currency - you being 'ndani' has nothing to do with whether they decide to prosecute you for the cash... by the way - it can be legit currency but there is some archaic law that limits how much foreign currency you can physically have.
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hardwood
#116 Posted : Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57:27 PM
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masukuma wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:

Suspects linked to Sh2b fake currency freed on cash bail


Eric Adede and four other suspects arrested over the Sh2 billion fake currency seized at Barclays Bank, Queensway Branch in Nairobi have been freed on bail.

The court on Tuesday released Eric Adede on Sh1 million bail while the other suspects were freed on Sh200,000 bail.

Adede was arrested alongside Ahmed Shah, Elizabeth Muthoni, and Irene Wairimu Kimani.

korti bandia. it's hard to trust Our courts

Why not? You are only in custody if you can interfere with the process of investigation. if they have all the currency - you being 'ndani' has nothing to do with whether they decide to prosecute you for the cash... by the way - it can be legit currency but there is some archaic law that limits how much foreign currency you can physically have.


How much is it?
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murchr
#117 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2019 8:18:38 PM
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Wazuan's move on so fast...Where are the people who wanted this "dam money"? Laughing out loudly



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