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tom_boy
#111 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2018 4:17:58 PM
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masukuma wrote:
wee @TomBoy Facebook like Turtle Bay Resort is AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. Facebook like Turtle Bay has hired italian translators to ensure your stay there is comfortable and ACCESSIBLE but not to export to your Turtle Bay to italy - that does not make sense.


Naona sasa umenielewa, ni vile to hatukubaliani
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
masukuma
#112 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2018 9:36:56 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
masukuma wrote:
wee @TomBoy Facebook like Turtle Bay Resort is AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. Facebook like Turtle Bay has hired italian translators to ensure your stay there is comfortable and ACCESSIBLE but not to export to your Turtle Bay to italy - that does not make sense.


Naona sasa umenielewa, ni vile to hatukubaliani

Yes... hatukubaliani that Turtle Bay should pay a tax to the Italian state because Italians come here and they have tried as much as possible to make them comfortable while they are here.
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tom_boy
#113 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:47:44 PM
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https://www.google.com/a...45772-isar0wz/index.html
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
tom_boy
#114 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:54:41 PM
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https://www.google.com/a...90518-xj3bte/index.html

Habari ndio hiyo . I am not crazy as some guys are want to think.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
murchr
#115 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2018 4:55:53 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/Taxing-eservice-firms-based-outside-Kenya/539548-3345772-view-asAMP-yj6y1mz/index.html#ampshare=https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/analysis/Taxing-eservice-firms-based-outside-Kenya/539548-3345772-isar0wz/index.html


This is what happens when you make foolish laws.

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In this day and age of the Internet, data, smart phones and apps, this move was timely and when it was enacted it was anticipated that it would bring more people into the VAT net.

However since the law provides that the foreign supplier and his local VAT representative will be jointly and severally liable for any tax liabilities of the foreign supplier, local persons have been understandably reluctant to assume the VAT representative role.

The other challenge has been the unintended consequences that could stem from VAT registration.

If we set the challenges of finding a willing local VAT representative aside, there is the dark cloud of triggering a permanent establishment and the ensuing income tax consequences that hang over the whole thing.

Even though VAT on e-services was never meant to result in the creation of a tax presence in Kenya for income tax purposes, there is the real possibility that the tax authorities could infer the creation of a tax presence in Kenya through the VAT representative.

Inferring a tax presence means that the foreign supplier would be required to pay Kenyan income tax on the e-services sales reported for VAT purposes by the VAT representative.

It is this income tax uncertainty that foreign suppliers are particularly uncomfortable with.

The situation is further exacerbated by the fact that registering for a PIN, which is used for income tax purposes, is a prerequisite for VAT registration.


Good luck
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tom_boy
#116 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:41:28 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/Commentary/Levy-new-social-media-tax-Facebook-not-users/689364-4390518-view-asAMP-597c07/index.html#ampshare=http://www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/Commentary/Levy-new-social-media-tax-Facebook-not-users/689364-4390518-xj3bte/index.html

Habari ndio hiyo . I am not crazy as some guys are want to think.


Other governments around the world which are open to a more progressive outlook to these things, are pushing to rewrite their tax rules to capture tax from technology companies like Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc, which may have no representative offices, or other physical presence in a country, but are accruing profits through large numbers of online users.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
murchr
#117 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:49:42 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/Commentary/Levy-new-social-media-tax-Facebook-not-users/689364-4390518-view-asAMP-597c07/index.html#ampshare=http://www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/Commentary/Levy-new-social-media-tax-Facebook-not-users/689364-4390518-xj3bte/index.html

Habari ndio hiyo . I am not crazy as some guys are want to think.


Other governments around the world which are open to a more progressive outlook to these things, are pushing to rewrite their tax rules to capture tax from technology companies like Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc, which may have no representative offices, or other physical presence in a country, but are accruing profits through large numbers of online users.


Which govts are these?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tom_boy
#118 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:30:00 AM
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murchr wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/Commentary/Levy-new-social-media-tax-Facebook-not-users/689364-4390518-view-asAMP-597c07/index.html#ampshare=http://www.monitor.co.ug/OpEd/Commentary/Levy-new-social-media-tax-Facebook-not-users/689364-4390518-xj3bte/index.html

Habari ndio hiyo . I am not crazy as some guys are want to think.


Other governments around the world which are open to a more progressive outlook to these things, are pushing to rewrite their tax rules to capture tax from technology companies like Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc, which may have no representative offices, or other physical presence in a country, but are accruing profits through large numbers of online users.


Which govts are these?

Australia, India. India has a google tax since 2016, an indirect way of making social media pay tax.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
tom_boy
#119 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:34:01 AM
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https://www.google.com/a...7-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
tom_boy
#120 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:35:32 AM
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tom_boy wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/e38b60ce-27d7-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0#ampshare=https://www.ft.com/content/e38b60ce-27d7-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0


According to draft proposals seen by the Financial Times, the European Commission will unveil a three-pronged digital tax next week that targets revenues rather than profits, heeding calls in France, Germany and Britain for a tougher approach to tax avoidance by tech companies.

The levy, which is likely to be set at a rate of 3 per cent, will be raised against advertising revenues generated by digital companies such as Google, the fees raised from users and subscribers to services such as Apple or Spotify, and the income made from selling personal data to third parties.
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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