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murchr
#111 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 1:16:07 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Much Know wrote:
All the data i can find says Chinese will be the key language in 2050, it is also expected to be the world leading economy, those are the facts, followed by Spanish, English third, you have to wonder where this "professors" are getting their passion for 'english theories' and advising us to dump everything for a language that might even shrink, the same was once thought of Latin, even the French have 'refused' English, Just try telling middle easterns to dump shouting Arabic from their mosques, you may find Swahili is even more important than English, or even kikuyu by 2030. We cannot depend on what people think, going by the best philosophy, the organic languages and cultures are premium kabisa! Don't build a "tower of babel" with English as the base!

unfortunately english will need to be learnt by others regardless of how chauvinistic others feel... you know why? it's the language of the internet! newer generations may not feel as strongly about somethings as you think they will. English is practical! it will be "lingua franca" lol a latin word for french to describe english. Even rwanda is changing. China is learning english sana.... the world is getting interconnected and the old nationalistic tendencies may not disappear but morph not to include language... but the future is long.


Masukuma you of ALL people in wazua should know that the internet is not only in English its universal even in Kiswahili but with such condescending attitude I guess you never noticed. Besides that, there are plans to have the internet in ALL languages spoken on earth. Right now the majority of the content is in English but that is changing because the creators don't want to fit everybody in one box. There's much more to be gained in diversity. I'ts only people in this part of the world that don't see it.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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masukuma
#112 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 7:25:36 AM
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This conversation is divided into 2 parts one that kinda believed THAT'S ALL FOLKS and another that EXTRAPOLATES ALL THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED UNTIL NOW FURTHER. Sure there will be some holdouts but if yu notice people are getting to be more aware of others. Cultural elements such as music is spreading and people will want to know what the artist was saying. Not everyone will become a native English speaker but simply because it's widely spoken the younger generation will think of it as useful to know.
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urstill1
#113 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:13:39 AM
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murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Much Know wrote:
All the data i can find says Chinese will be the key language in 2050, it is also expected to be the world leading economy, those are the facts, followed by Spanish, English third, you have to wonder where this "professors" are getting their passion for 'english theories' and advising us to dump everything for a language that might even shrink, the same was once thought of Latin, even the French have 'refused' English, Just try telling middle easterns to dump shouting Arabic from their mosques, you may find Swahili is even more important than English, or even kikuyu by 2030. We cannot depend on what people think, going by the best philosophy, the organic languages and cultures are premium kabisa! Don't build a "tower of babel" with English as the base!

unfortunately english will need to be learnt by others regardless of how chauvinistic others feel... you know why? it's the language of the internet! newer generations may not feel as strongly about somethings as you think they will. English is practical! it will be "lingua franca" lol a latin word for french to describe english. Even rwanda is changing. China is learning english sana.... the world is getting interconnected and the old nationalistic tendencies may not disappear but morph not to include language... but the future is long.


Masukuma you of ALL people in wazua should know that the internet is not only in English its universal even in Kiswahili but with such condescending attitude I guess you never noticed. Besides that, there are plans to have the internet in ALL languages spoken on earth. Right now the majority of the content is in English but that is changing because the creators don't want to fit everybody in one box. There's much more to be gained in diversity. I'ts only people in this part of the world that don't see it.


I suppose @ Masukush meant "mother tongue" of the internet. Stuff like C++ were developed by Swedes but written in English. So for the foreseeable future, English will still be lingua franca.
murchr
#114 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:22:02 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
urstill1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Much Know wrote:
All the data i can find says Chinese will be the key language in 2050, it is also expected to be the world leading economy, those are the facts, followed by Spanish, English third, you have to wonder where this "professors" are getting their passion for 'english theories' and advising us to dump everything for a language that might even shrink, the same was once thought of Latin, even the French have 'refused' English, Just try telling middle easterns to dump shouting Arabic from their mosques, you may find Swahili is even more important than English, or even kikuyu by 2030. We cannot depend on what people think, going by the best philosophy, the organic languages and cultures are premium kabisa! Don't build a "tower of babel" with English as the base!

unfortunately english will need to be learnt by others regardless of how chauvinistic others feel... you know why? it's the language of the internet! newer generations may not feel as strongly about somethings as you think they will. English is practical! it will be "lingua franca" lol a latin word for french to describe english. Even rwanda is changing. China is learning english sana.... the world is getting interconnected and the old nationalistic tendencies may not disappear but morph not to include language... but the future is long.


Masukuma you of ALL people in wazua should know that the internet is not only in English its universal even in Kiswahili but with such condescending attitude I guess you never noticed. Besides that, there are plans to have the internet in ALL languages spoken on earth. Right now the majority of the content is in English but that is changing because the creators don't want to fit everybody in one box. There's much more to be gained in diversity. I'ts only people in this part of the world that don't see it.


I suppose @ Masukush meant "mother tongue" of the internet. Stuff like C++ were developed by Swedes but written in English. So for the foreseeable future, English will still be lingua franca.


Less than 1% of the internet users can read scripts, content is what matters and translating softwares are being created every day.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Anti_Burglar
#115 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:35:57 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
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marko wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
marko wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Marko, if you think culture, democracy and politics are properly compartmentalized in this country you need to go back to sleep. I wish you sweet dreams.


Why don't you present your argument? You have practically said nothing there. You remind me of those days people used to post full-stops and the word ditto just to get more post numbers on the record.


I'm sorry you have missed it. I wish I spoke someone who was awake. I regret my wasted post.


Still not saying much I am afraid.



What if I said, "In Kenya, how a certain group of people think about say a cultural issue like circumcision affects how they vote." would I have made some sense?
Anti_Burglar
#116 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 9:37:45 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
¿ wrote:
Oi.



Hello there?
¿
#117 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:10:12 AM
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Joined: 6/4/2015
Posts: 604
Anti_Burglar wrote:
¿ wrote:
Oi.



Hello there?


Hello.
Anti_Burglar
#118 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:23:38 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
¿ wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
¿ wrote:
Oi.



Hello there?


Hello.


Why the Oi?
Anti_Burglar
#119 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:30:55 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
Anti_Burglar wrote:
marko wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
marko wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Marko, if you think culture, democracy and politics are properly compartmentalized in this country you need to go back to sleep. I wish you sweet dreams.


Why don't you present your argument? You have practically said nothing there. You remind me of those days people used to post full-stops and the word ditto just to get more post numbers on the record.


I'm sorry you have missed it. I wish I spoke someone who was awake. I regret my wasted post.


Still not saying much I am afraid.



What if I said, "In Kenya, how a certain group of people think about say a cultural issue like circumcision affects how they vote." would I have made some sense?


Have this gift from me Marko. Sweet dreams.

marko
#120 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2015 10:50:21 AM
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Joined: 1/7/2007
Posts: 838
Anti_Burglar wrote:
marko wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
marko wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Marko, if you think culture, democracy and politics are properly compartmentalized in this country you need to go back to sleep. I wish you sweet dreams.


Why don't you present your argument? You have practically said nothing there. You remind me of those days people used to post full-stops and the word ditto just to get more post numbers on the record.


I'm sorry you have missed it. I wish I spoke someone who was awake. I regret my wasted post.


Still not saying much I am afraid.



What if I said, "In Kenya, how a certain group of people think about say a cultural issue like circumcision affects how they vote." would I have made some sense?


You make some sense the way you purport it happens is not so. Cultural practices like circumcision may play a part but rarely are they the determining factor. In Kenya, we try to infuse new world democracy with the traditional government system we had of Chiefdoms and kingships. More often than not these two clash with disastrous results.
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