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ICC HE Uhuru Kenyatta PORK - 12th November
Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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This kangaroo is now all out siasa...... Not expecting justice at all.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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There was another application UK made to have his case terminated due to new evidence showing witnesses being coached or sth like that. When will it be listened to? Could it be one of the reasons the trial was moved?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rahatupu wrote:This kangaroo is now all out siasa...... Not expecting justice at all. Political how? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/20/2012 Posts: 888
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McReggae wrote:marko wrote:Trial pushed to February 2014. ICC pia inaonekana inajua siasa! The witnesses have to be 'refreshed' you know.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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maka wrote:Rahatupu wrote:This kangaroo is now all out siasa...... Not expecting justice at all. Political how? First the court bows to pressure from UK stating that he cannot be out at the same with with WSR and staggers their dates, next they shift the date of his hearing to give room for the political agenda (read AU-SC) deliberations.... and still don't have room to deliberate on the various petitions UK has filed. Siasa mbaya.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/30/2013 Posts: 659
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The Assembly of State Parties is comprised of States that have ratified the ICC.So, the SS might have been implying that since some of us haven't ratified ICC (USA, China) the SS cannot be the best place to be asking for a deferral. Secondly, since AU says its members are the majority in the ICC, then they should use that avenue, Assembly of Parties to ask for deferral. If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Pedes wrote:The Assembly of State Parties is comprised of States that have ratified the ICC.So, the SS might have been implying that since some of us haven't ratified ICC (USA, China) the SS cannot be the best place to be asking for a deferral. Secondly, since AU says its members are the majority in the ICC, then they should use that avenue, Assembly of Parties to ask for deferral. So what is the relevance of Article 16??
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/1/2008 Posts: 1,098
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Pedes wrote:The Assembly of State Parties is comprised of States that have ratified the ICC.So, the SS might have been implying that since some of us haven't ratified ICC (USA, China) the SS cannot be the best place to be asking for a deferral. Secondly, since AU says its members are the majority in the ICC, then they should use that avenue, Assembly of Parties to ask for deferral. SS = SC or SS <> SC or SS = ?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,732
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The PORK goes to Botswana and PAP they change their mind about ICC, call it kujifichiwo na uhunye Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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freiks wrote:The PORK goes to Botswana and PAP they change their mind about ICC, call it kujifichiwo na uhunye bado mapambano! Next  I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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===> President-uhuru-kenyatta-wants-15-mungiki-icc-witnesses-charged hapa Kenya... President Kenyatta has opposed an application by ICC Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda to restrict public testimony and secure immunity from prosecution for the Mungiki witnesses who have allegedly committed serious crimes.
The President’s defence team argues the 15 Mungiki members are ‘self confessed criminals’ and the prosecutor should turn over the evidence to Kenyan authorities so they can face the full force of the law.
Bensouda had asked the three judge bench to grant the Mungiki courtroom protective measures, including voice and image distortion, use of pseudonyms and in camera sessions for identifying evidence.
In a new legal strategy, Uhuru maintained that evidence from the Mungiki witnesses is unique to the ICC since their criminal conduct was not captured in any report that inquired into the bloodshed that followed the bungled 2007 polls.
Their criminal undertakings were not cited in the Waki Report on the post election violence, the Kenya National Human Rights Commission Report and the prosecution’s case materials at the ICC, he argues.
“The ICC versions of their evidence do not correspond with any other evidential sources including national security reports,” the application adds.
“Therefore the only way Kenya can deal with the allegations of criminal conduct as alleged at the ICC is disclosure of the same to the Kenyan authorities,” Uhuru argues.
The prevention of legitimate investigations by a State of serious crimes committed within the State as a result of the application of Rule 74 in the instant case would fundamentally contravene one of the reasons for the establishment of the ICC, namely the encouragement of States to investigate and prosecute criminals nationally,” adds the application......
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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makau mutua was quoted cursing the UK over this. http://www.nation.co.ke/...2/-/kd45hg/-/index.html
i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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The AG said so long as they pay before the day!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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From hapa na pale Now Britain Proposes ammendment to ICC rules of procedures to allow UMK to do Skype video link  earlier Botswana, Jordan, Liechtenstein and Kenya have proposed amendments to Rule 134 of The Rules of Procedure & Evidence (RPE). "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/24/2013 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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Breaking News; Uhuru to attend all sessions of his case
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Uram wrote:Breaking News; Uhuru to attend all sessions of his case 2morrow the rules of the game will chnge....they will do it via video link.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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Uram wrote:Breaking News; Uhuru to attend all sessions of his case This is simply ridiculous.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Quote:After four hours, already a full 60 minutes outside the allotted time for discussion, the irritation was beginning to show in belligerent language: “We are co-operating not because we have been directed to do so but because we are committed to the rule of law,” said Prof Muigai.
It was not entirely an African position – Senegal, Cote d’Ivoire and Democratic Republic of Congo were not on the bus, while South Africa and Tanzania spoke with equivocation.
The voices from South America – Peru, Guatemala, Brazil, and Argentina -- blended with all of those of the Civil Society: immunity is equal to impunity. http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/AU-battle-for-ICC-immunity-/-/1959700/2088948/-/jje604/-/index.html Someone is being paid a lot of money for being wrong. If they had just followed my posts on wazua it would have saved treasury a lot of money. If only.... Hague is a personal issue. Tukubali tu. Or the other option is to not participate at all at the Hague. Whichever route, choices do have consequences. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:Uram wrote:Breaking News; Uhuru to attend all sessions of his case 2morrow the rules of the game will chnge....they will do it via video link. I dont think so....they followed the wrong path kabisa... possunt quia posse videntur
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