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Impact of 30% rental income tax on housing development in Kenya
itz
#111 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:31:49 PM
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Ali Baba wrote:
ITZ:Even in kenya you itemize.Please familiarize yourself with Income tax Act cap 470.In any case,rental income tax is not new.I don't know why we are arguing over this.Compliance is necessary to prevent kenya going the Greece way!!The bigger the govt,the more the revenue is required.Come on,pay your taxes and I pay mine and we will not go the Greece way.Talking of US and lack of VAT,what a hypocrisy! USA needs VAT more than any other country in the world.Their deficit is frightening.Is that what you want?? Pay up,rental income was taxable even in 1963.>>>Check Cap 470.



@Alibaba.That is the problem right there.Kenya is overtaxed and the money is not being used for the right purposes.Yes Kenya is headed the Greece/European way where all they do is increase taxes,Grow government and public debt while choking the private sector.A 30% tax on rental income is prohibitive.
I want smaller effective govt which i know we will never get because we already embarked on this new county system which also means yearly property taxes are on the way.
And for the good old US these guyz are smarter than you think.By 2020 US will be a net exporter of gas(they are the saudi of natural gas) and Oil and am sure u know what that means.Their efficiency in manufucturing and production will be amazing.Dont listen to the noise about deficit remember they have the world reserve currency and they can play with that too.
Ali Baba
#112 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:34:39 PM
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ITZ:I agree with you on US,but about "30% tax on rental income",that reference is a misnomer.It gives an impression like 30% tax is on rental income only.No.30% tax is the maximum Kenyan tax rate and also corporate tax.Is it high? Yes,maybe they should reduce it 25%.But the problem is that clause on gender and 2/3 ratio will be the achilles heel for the kenyan taxpayer.Nominating women MPs until the gender ratio is reached is meaningless and will make kenyan taxpayers have so many MPs.Its unbelievable.But the taxes...there is nothing wrong with taxes:they are a necessary evil.
For Sport
#113 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:43:08 PM
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Ali Baba wrote:
ARCHITECT:Njiraini's provision for an enabling environment does not include tax evasion which is illegal.Please read the income tax act cap 470.

Lets not confuse tax evasion and tax avoidance
Ali Baba
#114 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:57:38 PM
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For Sport:>>There is no such confusion.To avoid tax,keep your money under your pillow--don't invest it.
GGK
#115 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:08:03 PM
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The arguments here are an amazing amalgamation of misinformation. If you borrowed money to invest in manufacturing and you made a profit, at the end of the year you'll pay 30% tax on the profits you make.
Why should it be different when you invest the money on rental property? Landlords simply have to keep books of account and expense the interests [& other administrative costs] they incur in running their rental property business.

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kaifastus
#116 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:03:16 PM
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The New constitution is a 'fuel guzzler'. Whether or not we shall get quality service I don't know. You asked for it, let's stop whining and watch.
youcan'tstopusnow
#117 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:12:34 PM
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nakujua wrote:
alma wrote:

Next is taxation on capital gains. That to me is the reason why Kenya will never ever become developed however many konzas we build. Hoarding has never been good for the economy. Now here is a country that each and everyone in the property industry is hoarding.

That's my opinion.


true,
hawa speculators ni wengi sana


nakujua, would you then also advocate for capital gains tax on the stock market too? Huko, "speculators" ndio wamejaa kabisa. Ama nimedanganya?smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/...Capital_gains_tax#Kenya
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For Sport
#118 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:24:01 PM
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Ali Baba wrote:
For Sport:>>There is no such confusion.To avoid tax,keep your money under your pillow--don't invest it.

actually waiting for the next infrastructure bond. Pretty sure it will be tax free and a painless 12% return. T/bills meanwhile. Withholding tax at just 15%. Dont see why i'd struggle justifying books for a business. Also consider that with rental income, not all your expenses will be 'allowable deductions' for tax purposes
kangi
#119 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:52:46 PM
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itz wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
ITZ:Even in kenya you itemize.Please familiarize yourself with Income tax Act cap 470.In any case,rental income tax is not new.I don't know why we are arguing over this.Compliance is necessary to prevent kenya going the Greece way!!The bigger the govt,the more the revenue is required. Pay up,rental income was taxable even in 1963.>>>Check Cap 470.



@Alibaba.That is the problem right there.Kenya is overtaxed and the money is not being used for the right purposes.Yes Kenya is headed the Greece/European way where all they do is increase taxes,Grow government and public debt while choking the private sector.A 30% tax on rental income is prohibitive.
I want smaller effective govt which i know we will never get because we already embarked on this new county system which also means yearly property taxes are on the way.
And for the good old US these guyz are smarter than you think.By 2020 US will be a net exporter of gas(they are the saudi of natural gas) and Oil and am sure u know what that means.Their efficiency in manufucturing and production will be amazing.Dont listen to the noise about deficit remember they have the world reserve currency and they can play with that too.


I remember watching the NTV news last Friday night when they alluded to Kenya being behind the east african states where I dont remember whcih country was taxed at 40%. Just afraid that gova may decide to catch up.Pray Pray
Accept no one's definition of your life; define your life.
Ali Baba
#120 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:09:20 PM
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For Sport>>>That is what is called choice.Every investor is free to invest where one deems fit.That is why you find that investors are buying shares at Eveready,etc.And when one guy is selling,another one is buying.While that maybe the "greater fool" theory,all of us think differently and respond to issues differently.That is why when you will be buying TBills,a maasai will be buying cows! Get it?Happy investing!! We need investors in all categories--from Infrastructure bonds,to stocks,to cows.....
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