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Lolest!		#111 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:38:47 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		'user' wrote: If you saw you 3 year old take a bottle of poison and tells you that he will take it .Will you watch him take the poison without attempting to stop him? What did the govt do to syokimauans? Wacha akunywe tu ,Kuna mvua and the ground is soft , digging 6 feet down sio gumu. usijenge kwa ile plot yako kama huna title!
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Elder		#112 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:39:59 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville		'user' wrote: Elder wrote: vinii wrote: ....most of the affected Are young couples who appear to have saved or borrowed money to own a home for the very first time..I will not be surprised if someone commits suicide....I however pray that it does not happen..... Makes you wonder if and how long it would take them (if) to put there lives back together. Well, only in Kenya. @user, is your land affected? no mine wasn't affected.but I have heart broken friends there.this failed govt has really pakt them. @user good to hear that your dream house is still on. Also have friends who have been affected and in fact two of them had titles to their property, not certificates. So those busy shouting that there were no people with title deeds or certificate of lease have no clue what they are talking about and are merely buying into the government spin for their own individual reasons. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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jaggernaut		#113 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:50:28 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389		Marty wrote: a4architect.com wrote: @ Obi 1 Kanobi-true. In most developed countries, once the government[local authority]does not object a construction for the period of time that the construction takes place, its assumed that the house owner has all rights to construct. in the recent times, the local authority apporval has been changed to be subject to the land having no encumberances so the mavoko council cant be blamed on this since they approve building quality and standarda and not land ownership. land ownership falls squalrey on ministry of lands. I think a better approach would be where the ministry is duty bound to give a clearance on the land before any council approves building. That way the could own up. The way it is now, it does not make sense. That is why the govt issues a document called a 'Title Deed'.
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B.Timer		#114 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:52:32 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/31/2008 Posts: 1,076		sceptic wrote: im now very jittery about this syokimau saga...for peace of mind can somebody tell me if the DCA,near mlolongo side of syokimau will be affected.i bought approximately 4km from the kangarooz shopping centre. SYOKIMAU proper has no issues whatsoever! The land that is mired in controversy is only adjacent to syokimau but NOT in Syokimau. In actual fact the flattedned estates are/were called Ungani, Jumbo and Mlolongo Brothers. Referring to them as Syokimau is misleading! The Daily Nation story quoted below is 90% factual and truthful. http://www.nation.co.ke/...36/-/edqc1u/-/index.html Dunia ni msongamano..
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Dash		#115 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:09:48 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi		B.Timer wrote: [quote=sceptic]im now very jittery about this syokimau saga...for peace of mind can somebody tell me if the DCA,near mlolongo side of syokimau will be affected.i bought approximately 4km from the kangarooz shopping centre. SYOKIMAU proper has no issues whatsoever! The land that is mired in controversy is only adjacent to syokimau but NOT in Syokimau. In actual fact the flattedned estates are/were called Ungani, Jumbo and Mlolongo Brothers. Referring to them as Syokimau is misleading! The Daily Nation story quoted below is 90% factual and truthful. http://www.nation.co.ke/...6/-/edqc1u/-/index.html[/quote] Any proof of this land not being syokimau? one area, two maps, which is to be believed?
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stevecomptech		#116 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:23:27 PM
Rank: Hello Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 2		Wanted Mlolongo Brothers Association, where can i get them?
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kamundu		#117 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:37:23 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/9/2011 Posts: 786 Location: Mashinani		stevecomptech wrote: Wanted Mlolongo Brothers Association, where can i get them? Ati wanajificha from some somalis who bought the same land near the airport- in fact thats why the demolitions were done ASAP Peace in our Homeland.
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addidaskawembe		#118 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:48:33 PM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/14/2010 Posts: 84 Location: Nairobi		stevecomptech wrote: Wanted Mlolongo Brothers Association, where can i get them? Rank: Hello Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 1 @stevecomptech, you seem to have joined this forum today and this looks like your first post. I honestly expect something constructive and worth our time not the statement you posted. What exactly are you asking and what makes you think we know where they are ?
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Barrywhite		#119 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:17:14 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 286 Location: Nairobi		@sceptic. The area in which demolitions took place is actually called Ungani; although the media widely reportedly it as Syokimau. Whereas the GOK can take any land anywhere they want (according to the law), where you are genuinely the owner of the land, you would be compensated. So you should be verifying the authencity of your title - l am assuming you have one. If verified, then you are safe. Any compulsory acquisition would compensate you both for the value of your property and the disturbance occasioned by you moving; and give you enough time to move! Still what happened in Ungani over the weekend was heartless and cannot be excused. The laudable is more often than not rendered laughable by overclaim
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eco		#120 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:21:59 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/17/2011 Posts: 229		nwamaina wrote: @wazuans I think TITLE DEEDS in Kenya are just pieces of paper that can be manipulated by the so called Government of Kenya and the corrupt systems therein. For heavens sake why do we have a Ministry of Lands that can and has and continues to issue duplicate title deeds, I think if you own land don't lie to yourself that the deed is proof,it may be in someone else name at the MoL with a complete set of original documents issued by the same legal issuer of these documents,its so sickening....These atrocities being committed by the government that actually issued this titles is so spine chilling.Actually do land owners have any rights? Do title deed holders actually have any rights in this country? Finally may those who facilitated the mess rot in hell and be haunted by the cries of these innocent and hardworking Kenyans.. The Land issue in Kenya is just too murky, led by Ardhi house itself. It is too painful to see people's sacrifice, hardwork, savings and investment turned into rubble within minutes. Worse no counselling at all for the familes affected!
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