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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Ericsson
#11951 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:45:32 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Kq i its current state is having difficulties repaying its debt.
It wants to use JKIA revenue for that
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ArrestedDev
#11952 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 10:14:40 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
A kenyan can be sourced and at a cheaper package and he will do a wonderful job


Really? Which Kenyan CEO is doing an amazing job at a parastatal?


The best guy for the job as I always say(said) was Yves... The cartels pushed him out... He was around the other day and said he should be back...

Why depend on one man.. What makes you think KALPA will welcome him with open arms. The debate has now turned racist and Kenyans appear to want a black CEO, like Bob Collymore 😁


Nothing racist on this. The guy does not understand what it is required to pull the Airline out of the mess.

He cannot blame the pilots for asking a pay rise yet he is keeping consultants duplicating roles at a hefty pay, appointing slay queens to very critical roles and spending big in his funded company account on top of his hefty salary.


Recently you had a different opinion. I hope it's not the letter by KAWU that swayed you


It is now evident as per his recent press conference that he have no idea of how to pull the Airline out of the loss making position.

He is wasting his time blaming Naikuni and Ngunze. What they did is now past tense and the fellow should be working hard to reverse the effects of the past decisions.

Blaming staff won’t solve the underlying issues. We know the cost of staffing in KQ is way less than the global rates.

Just looking for scapegoats is childish and stupid.
maka
#11953 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 11:35:04 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
nairobby wrote:
[quote=obiero]The much anticipated and misunderstood PIIP document http://www.winda.co.ke/Proposed-PPP-KAA-KQ.pdf[/quote]

I love KQ but this doc doesn't explain how this PPP will reduce KQ's biggest problem which is the crazy high cost structure

The cost structure was primarily laden with expensive debt. That line is now down 41% post restructuring. Fleet rationalization also hit at the expenses by 18%.. Overall the expense lines are under unrelenting attack hence union agitation


What do you mean by saying fleet rationalisation hit the expenses by 18%. Fleet reduction is among the stupid decisions made during the restructuring being referred to by Mikosz in the recent press conference he held.

MJ is being quoted saying the opposite of what Mikosz said. They are not reading from the same script. KQ recovery is far away.

The reduction in services being mentioned by Mikosz includes terminating routes e.g. Newyork.

Cancel NYC flights? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
After all the drama we were subjected to? d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!



Mmmmmh...d'oh! It shouldnt have even started.
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muandiwambeu
#11954 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:23:49 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
A kenyan can be sourced and at a cheaper package and he will do a wonderful job


Really? Which Kenyan CEO is doing an amazing job at a parastatal?


The best guy for the job as I always say(said) was Yves... The cartels pushed him out... He was around the other day and said he should be back...

Why depend on one man.. What makes you think KALPA will welcome him with open arms. The debate has now turned racist and Kenyans appear to want a black CEO, like Bob Collymore 😁


Nothing racist on this. The guy does not understand what it is required to pull the Airline out of the mess.

He cannot blame the pilots for asking a pay rise yet he is keeping consultants duplicating roles at a hefty pay, appointing slay queens to very critical roles and spending big in his funded company account on top of his hefty salary.


Recently you had a different opinion. I hope it's not the letter by KAWU that swayed you


It is now evident as per his recent press conference that he have no idea of how to pull the Airline out of the loss making position.

He is wasting his time blaming Naikuni and Ngunze. What they did is now past tense and the fellow should be working hard to reverse the effects of the past decisions.

Blaming staff won’t solve the underlying issues. We know the cost of staffing in KQ is way less than the global rates.

Just looking for scapegoats is childish and stupid.

Dreams are valid. Just get to dream. Deliverables made. Almost achieving a milestone goal.
God help allqueer, and help @obiero to sniff the pure truth and get high on it
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
nairobby
#11955 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 4:53:37 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/18/2019
Posts: 185
Location: kenya
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
A kenyan can be sourced and at a cheaper package and he will do a wonderful job


Really? Which Kenyan CEO is doing an amazing job at a parastatal?


The best guy for the job as I always say(said) was Yves... The cartels pushed him out... He was around the other day and said he should be back...

Why depend on one man.. What makes you think KALPA will welcome him with open arms. The debate has now turned racist and Kenyans appear to want a black CEO, like Bob Collymore 😁


Nothing racist on this. The guy does not understand what it is required to pull the Airline out of the mess.

He cannot blame the pilots for asking a pay rise yet he is keeping consultants duplicating roles at a hefty pay, appointing slay queens to very critical roles and spending big in his funded company account on top of his hefty salary.


Recently you had a different opinion. I hope it's not the letter by KAWU that swayed you


It is now evident as per his recent press conference that he have no idea of how to pull the Airline out of the loss making position.

He is wasting his time blaming Naikuni and Ngunze. What they did is now past tense and the fellow should be working hard to reverse the effects of the past decisions.

Blaming staff won’t solve the underlying issues. We know the cost of staffing in KQ is way less than the global rates.

Just looking for scapegoats is childish and stupid.


That KAWU letter was full of hogwash, most claims were factually incorrect and meant to elicit the reaction it did. However labour cost at KQ is a big big cost to the company. For example cost per employee is 3x that of Ethiopian. Sebastian has a point.
Anyway, KQ will most probably die soon with or without the KAA plan.
obiero
#11956 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 5:49:14 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
nairobby wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
A kenyan can be sourced and at a cheaper package and he will do a wonderful job


Really? Which Kenyan CEO is doing an amazing job at a parastatal?


The best guy for the job as I always say(said) was Yves... The cartels pushed him out... He was around the other day and said he should be back...

Why depend on one man.. What makes you think KALPA will welcome him with open arms. The debate has now turned racist and Kenyans appear to want a black CEO, like Bob Collymore 😁


Nothing racist on this. The guy does not understand what it is required to pull the Airline out of the mess.

He cannot blame the pilots for asking a pay rise yet he is keeping consultants duplicating roles at a hefty pay, appointing slay queens to very critical roles and spending big in his funded company account on top of his hefty salary.


Recently you had a different opinion. I hope it's not the letter by KAWU that swayed you


It is now evident as per his recent press conference that he have no idea of how to pull the Airline out of the loss making position.

He is wasting his time blaming Naikuni and Ngunze. What they did is now past tense and the fellow should be working hard to reverse the effects of the past decisions.

Blaming staff won’t solve the underlying issues. We know the cost of staffing in KQ is way less than the global rates.

Just looking for scapegoats is childish and stupid.


That KAWU letter was full of hogwash, most claims were factually incorrect and meant to elicit the reaction it did. However labour cost at KQ is a big big cost to the company. For example cost per employee is 3x that of Ethiopian. Sebastian has a point.
Anyway, KQ will most probably die soon with or without the KAA plan.

The deal is signed, sealed and delivered

KQ ABP 4.26
maka
#11957 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 5:58:46 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
nairobby wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
A kenyan can be sourced and at a cheaper package and he will do a wonderful job


Really? Which Kenyan CEO is doing an amazing job at a parastatal?


The best guy for the job as I always say(said) was Yves... The cartels pushed him out... He was around the other day and said he should be back...

Why depend on one man.. What makes you think KALPA will welcome him with open arms. The debate has now turned racist and Kenyans appear to want a black CEO, like Bob Collymore 😁


Nothing racist on this. The guy does not understand what it is required to pull the Airline out of the mess.

He cannot blame the pilots for asking a pay rise yet he is keeping consultants duplicating roles at a hefty pay, appointing slay queens to very critical roles and spending big in his funded company account on top of his hefty salary.


Recently you had a different opinion. I hope it's not the letter by KAWU that swayed you


It is now evident as per his recent press conference that he have no idea of how to pull the Airline out of the loss making position.

He is wasting his time blaming Naikuni and Ngunze. What they did is now past tense and the fellow should be working hard to reverse the effects of the past decisions.

Blaming staff won’t solve the underlying issues. We know the cost of staffing in KQ is way less than the global rates.

Just looking for scapegoats is childish and stupid.


That KAWU letter was full of hogwash, most claims were factually incorrect and meant to elicit the reaction it did. However labour cost at KQ is a big big cost to the company. For example cost per employee is 3x that of Ethiopian. Sebastian has a point.
Anyway, KQ will most probably die soon with or without the KAA plan.



@Obiero kuja hapa give the figures I gave you on salaries... Its only very senior managers and pilots who earn crazy cash in that company... There was even a comparison I posted here on staff cost ...ET...SAA...KQ
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obiero
#11958 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:21:54 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
nairobby wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
A kenyan can be sourced and at a cheaper package and he will do a wonderful job


Really? Which Kenyan CEO is doing an amazing job at a parastatal?


The best guy for the job as I always say(said) was Yves... The cartels pushed him out... He was around the other day and said he should be back...

Why depend on one man.. What makes you think KALPA will welcome him with open arms. The debate has now turned racist and Kenyans appear to want a black CEO, like Bob Collymore 😁


Nothing racist on this. The guy does not understand what it is required to pull the Airline out of the mess.

He cannot blame the pilots for asking a pay rise yet he is keeping consultants duplicating roles at a hefty pay, appointing slay queens to very critical roles and spending big in his funded company account on top of his hefty salary.


Recently you had a different opinion. I hope it's not the letter by KAWU that swayed you


It is now evident as per his recent press conference that he have no idea of how to pull the Airline out of the loss making position.

He is wasting his time blaming Naikuni and Ngunze. What they did is now past tense and the fellow should be working hard to reverse the effects of the past decisions.

Blaming staff won’t solve the underlying issues. We know the cost of staffing in KQ is way less than the global rates.

Just looking for scapegoats is childish and stupid.


That KAWU letter was full of hogwash, most claims were factually incorrect and meant to elicit the reaction it did. However labour cost at KQ is a big big cost to the company. For example cost per employee is 3x that of Ethiopian. Sebastian has a point.
Anyway, KQ will most probably die soon with or without the KAA plan.



@Obiero kuja hapa give the figures I gave you on salaries... Its only very senior managers and pilots who earn crazy cash in that company... There was even a comparison I posted here on staff cost ...ET...SAA...KQ

That's confidential.. Wacha tuvuke hii mpaka ya JKIA

KQ ABP 4.26
ArrestedDev
#11959 Posted : Friday, March 22, 2019 8:40:13 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
nairobby wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
A kenyan can be sourced and at a cheaper package and he will do a wonderful job


Really? Which Kenyan CEO is doing an amazing job at a parastatal?


The best guy for the job as I always say(said) was Yves... The cartels pushed him out... He was around the other day and said he should be back...

Why depend on one man.. What makes you think KALPA will welcome him with open arms. The debate has now turned racist and Kenyans appear to want a black CEO, like Bob Collymore 😁


Nothing racist on this. The guy does not understand what it is required to pull the Airline out of the mess.

He cannot blame the pilots for asking a pay rise yet he is keeping consultants duplicating roles at a hefty pay, appointing slay queens to very critical roles and spending big in his funded company account on top of his hefty salary.


Recently you had a different opinion. I hope it's not the letter by KAWU that swayed you


It is now evident as per his recent press conference that he have no idea of how to pull the Airline out of the loss making position.

He is wasting his time blaming Naikuni and Ngunze. What they did is now past tense and the fellow should be working hard to reverse the effects of the past decisions.

Blaming staff won’t solve the underlying issues. We know the cost of staffing in KQ is way less than the global rates.

Just looking for scapegoats is childish and stupid.


That KAWU letter was full of hogwash, most claims were factually incorrect and meant to elicit the reaction it did. However labour cost at KQ is a big big cost to the company. For example cost per employee is 3x that of Ethiopian. Sebastian has a point.
Anyway, KQ will most probably die soon with or without the KAA plan.



@Obiero kuja hapa give the figures I gave you on salaries... Its only very senior managers and pilots who earn crazy cash in that company... There was even a comparison I posted here on staff cost ...ET...SAA...KQ

That's confidential.. Wacha tuvuke hii mpaka ya JKIA


What Mikosz said is hogwash. He doesn’t have any point to raise. Directors including him take home very hefty pay checks.

KAWU press release had some substance on it. There are not finance people and they might have missed some figures but it is true the KLM stooges and the bogus polish consultants are bleeding KQ dry and they now want to bleed KAA too.

ArrestedDev
#11960 Posted : Friday, March 22, 2019 8:51:01 AM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
No feasibility study. Nothing at all.

Just Kinyua and Macharia taking care of the masters’ interests.

https://www.nation.co.ke...36366-qyfs9qz/index.html
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