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Uhuru versus Raila 2017
innairobi
#2301 Posted : Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:45:06 PM
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2012 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Jubilee must confront Raila by changing laws to election. Raila has been trying to change goal posts (Virtually) and haas taught Jubilee how to do it
Why should everyone do what Raila wants and not what others want?
Raila has no Son to inherit him and reason he gonna derail the country. Should Kenyans be held at this Ransom?
Time all worked hard, vote to send Raila home
I wonder why he is paying women to strip drunk????
Too poor Luo women are being miss used!!!


As much as I'm not a baba supporter, I don't believe he has ill motives for this country. He may love power but having followed his history, he loves this country too much to destroy it. He's more like Moi in my opinion. As terrible as Moi was, he really honestly loved Kenya.


kenya benefits from the political elite having majority of their money, assets and other loot within the country. agwambo wouldnt want sceptre destroyed in a riot in the same way uhuru must look out for brookside's interest.
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
Bigchick
#2302 Posted : Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:13:57 PM
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2012 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Jubilee must confront Raila by changing laws to election. Raila has been trying to change goal posts (Virtually) and haas taught Jubilee how to do it
Why should everyone do what Raila wants and not what others want?
Raila has no Son to inherit him and reason he gonna derail the country. Should Kenyans be held at this Ransom?
Time all worked hard, vote to send Raila home
I wonder why he is paying women to strip drunk????
Too poor Luo women are being miss used!!!


As much as I'm not a baba supporter, I don't believe he has ill motives for this country. He may love power but having followed his history, he loves this country too much to destroy it. He's more like Moi in my opinion. As terrible as Moi was, he really honestly loved Kenya.


His ill motive is against kiuks not Kenya.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
limanika
#2303 Posted : Sunday, October 01, 2017 10:46:16 PM
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2012 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Jubilee must confront Raila by changing laws to election. Raila has been trying to change goal posts (Virtually) and haas taught Jubilee how to do it
Why should everyone do what Raila wants and not what others want?
Raila has no Son to inherit him and reason he gonna derail the country. Should Kenyans be held at this Ransom?
Time all worked hard, vote to send Raila home
I wonder why he is paying women to strip drunk????
Too poor Luo women are being miss used!!!


As much as I'm not a baba supporter, I don't believe he has ill motives for this country. He may love power but having followed his history, he loves this country too much to destroy it. He's more like Moi in my opinion. As terrible as Moi was, he really honestly loved Kenya.

Rao wants power at any cost. MO1 wanted to keep power at any cost. So you are right that these two are similar. Now, when we say 'at any cost', does that person really care for the country?
harrydre
#2304 Posted : Monday, October 02, 2017 4:02:27 AM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

@MutahiNgunyi is one very evil man.

https://youtu.be/AM-XoZoK2wQ


The dude at 10.15 nailed it.
i.am.back!!!!
kaka2za
#2305 Posted : Monday, October 02, 2017 5:15:15 AM
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limanika wrote:
2012 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Jubilee must confront Raila by changing laws to election. Raila has been trying to change goal posts (Virtually) and haas taught Jubilee how to do it
Why should everyone do what Raila wants and not what others want?
Raila has no Son to inherit him and reason he gonna derail the country. Should Kenyans be held at this Ransom?
Time all worked hard, vote to send Raila home
I wonder why he is paying women to strip drunk????
Too poor Luo women are being miss used!!!


As much as I'm not a baba supporter, I don't believe he has ill motives for this country. He may love power but having followed his history, he loves this country too much to destroy it. He's more like Moi in my opinion. As terrible as Moi was, he really honestly loved Kenya.

Rao wants power at any cost. MO1 wanted to keep power at any cost. So you are right that these two are similar. Now, when we say 'at any cost', does that person really care for the country?


RAO cared for the country but not anymore.He is desperate now and believes that the country should die for him.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
Iganamagana
#2306 Posted : Monday, October 02, 2017 12:39:21 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
limanika wrote:
2012 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Jubilee must confront Raila by changing laws to election. Raila has been trying to change goal posts (Virtually) and haas taught Jubilee how to do it
Why should everyone do what Raila wants and not what others want?
Raila has no Son to inherit him and reason he gonna derail the country. Should Kenyans be held at this Ransom?
Time all worked hard, vote to send Raila home
I wonder why he is paying women to strip drunk????
Too poor Luo women are being miss used!!!


As much as I'm not a baba supporter, I don't believe he has ill motives for this country. He may love power but having followed his history, he loves this country too much to destroy it. He's more like Moi in my opinion. As terrible as Moi was, he really honestly loved Kenya.

Rao wants power at any cost. MO1 wanted to keep power at any cost. So you are right that these two are similar. Now, when we say 'at any cost', does that person really care for the country?


RAO cared for the country but not anymore. He is desperate now and believes that the country should die for him.


I have started changing my mind on this guy. I think he perceived the fight for democracy as the easiest path to power. Now that the ride to power seems difficult using democratic means, the guy has chosen chaos just like he did in 1982.
limanika
#2307 Posted : Monday, October 02, 2017 2:18:59 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
limanika wrote:
2012 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Jubilee must confront Raila by changing laws to election. Raila has been trying to change goal posts (Virtually) and haas taught Jubilee how to do it
Why should everyone do what Raila wants and not what others want?
Raila has no Son to inherit him and reason he gonna derail the country. Should Kenyans be held at this Ransom?
Time all worked hard, vote to send Raila home
I wonder why he is paying women to strip drunk????
Too poor Luo women are being miss used!!!


As much as I'm not a baba supporter, I don't believe he has ill motives for this country. He may love power but having followed his history, he loves this country too much to destroy it. He's more like Moi in my opinion. As terrible as Moi was, he really honestly loved Kenya.

Rao wants power at any cost. MO1 wanted to keep power at any cost. So you are right that these two are similar. Now, when we say 'at any cost', does that person really care for the country?


RAO cared for the country but not anymore.He is desperate now and believes that the country should die for him.

Kindly explain, at what point did he ever care for this country? Am convinced he's done more harm tha n good. From his actions in 82' that changed mo1 to a tyrant and caused us to lose 2 decades (the 80s and 90s), to his marriage with KANU post 97 where he ammased wealth e.g mollases plant thro corruption, to post '02 when he almost paralysed kibaki, need not mention post 07' peve, and post 13 when he has continued his antics. What good has he done?
Realtreaty
#2308 Posted : Thursday, October 05, 2017 7:51:22 PM
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Kenyans are tired of Raila gimmicks. Its time all Kenyans went to the ballot to save Kenya and vote for Uhuru to close this coffin completely else we go to the Hyenas!!!

As Si Mutuko said Raila is a "Monkey on Uhuru back enjoying the ride going nowhere and its Uhuru to shove this Monkey out with the Power of Kenyans.
Today more Kenyans are loosing Jobs, food, education because of Raila with his good sentry Orengo who keep encouraging him to make excuses!
2012
#2309 Posted : Thursday, October 05, 2017 8:50:49 PM
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limanika wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
limanika wrote:
2012 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Jubilee must confront Raila by changing laws to election. Raila has been trying to change goal posts (Virtually) and haas taught Jubilee how to do it
Why should everyone do what Raila wants and not what others want?
Raila has no Son to inherit him and reason he gonna derail the country. Should Kenyans be held at this Ransom?
Time all worked hard, vote to send Raila home
I wonder why he is paying women to strip drunk????
Too poor Luo women are being miss used!!!


As much as I'm not a baba supporter, I don't believe he has ill motives for this country. He may love power but having followed his history, he loves this country too much to destroy it. He's more like Moi in my opinion. As terrible as Moi was, he really honestly loved Kenya.

Rao wants power at any cost. MO1 wanted to keep power at any cost. So you are right that these two are similar. Now, when we say 'at any cost', does that person really care for the country?


RAO cared for the country but not anymore.He is desperate now and believes that the country should die for him.

Kindly explain, at what point did he ever care for this country? Am convinced he's done more harm tha n good. From his actions in 82' that changed mo1 to a tyrant and caused us to lose 2 decades (the 80s and 90s), to his marriage with KANU post 97 where he ammased wealth e.g mollases plant thro corruption, to post '02 when he almost paralysed kibaki, need not mention post 07' peve, and post 13 when he has continued his antics. What good has he done?



Let me put it differently, as much as I would never vote for Raila because I believe he has too much vendetta and he is a communist hardliner, Uhuru has not been a good leader either, he is without doubt a better option but by far not the best. His years have been the worst I've seen for businesses, corruption has risen and he's still easy. I hope some good men (we are not ready for a female president) come up in 2022.

BBI will solve it
:)
kakarabbit
#2310 Posted : Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:29:53 PM
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Today have seen Chiloba asking for an extra 3.7 billion shillings for the re-run,makeing it a total budget of 13.7 billion shillings for the re-run alone. On August 8th the Standard reported that 45 billion was used. Is it morally right for a third world nation, where people in Baringo are dying cause of lack of 40 bob malaria drug, to spend such amounts on just choosing leadership?. There must be another simpler way..
kaka2za
#2311 Posted : Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:32:49 PM
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We slowly but surely grinding to a halt. NHIF are nolonger paying hospitals
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
Shak
#2312 Posted : Thursday, October 05, 2017 9:45:43 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
We slowly but surely grinding to a halt. NHIF are nolonger paying hospitals

Link? I used mine today
Bigchick
#2313 Posted : Thursday, October 05, 2017 10:04:49 PM
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Shak wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
We slowly but surely grinding to a halt. NHIF are nolonger paying hospitals

Link? I used mine today


Like which one?

All I know they are scrutinising every bill before payment and this is taking time.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
kaka2za
#2314 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 6:04:22 AM
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Bigchick wrote:
Shak wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
We slowly but surely grinding to a halt. NHIF are nolonger paying hospitals

Link? I used mine today


Like which one?

All I know they are scrutinising every bill before payment and this is taking time.


Try getting approval for specialised services e.g Chemotherapy or dialysis.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
Amores
#2315 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 7:26:58 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Shak wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
We slowly but surely grinding to a halt. NHIF are nolonger paying hospitals

Link? I used mine today


Like which one?

All I know they are scrutinising every bill before payment and this is taking time.


Try getting approval for specialised services e.g Chemotherapy or dialysis.

And what is causing the grind?
I am happy
kaka2za
#2316 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 8:10:53 AM
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Amores wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Shak wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
We slowly but surely grinding to a halt. NHIF are nolonger paying hospitals

Link? I used mine today


Like which one?

All I know they are scrutinising every bill before payment and this is taking time.


Try getting approval for specialised services e.g Chemotherapy or dialysis.

And what is causing the grind?


Your guess is as good as mine.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
Bigchick
#2317 Posted : Friday, October 06, 2017 8:39:33 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Shak wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
We slowly but surely grinding to a halt. NHIF are nolonger paying hospitals

Link? I used mine today


Like which one?

All I know they are scrutinising every bill before payment and this is taking time.


Try getting approval for specialised services e.g Chemotherapy or dialysis.



This are new services under the scheme and wale wakora wameingia hapa ni wengi sana.I also think its getting overwhelming.They had not anticipated the numbers that have flocked in.

Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
FRM2011
#2318 Posted : Sunday, October 08, 2017 1:19:07 PM
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Everyday is an opportunity to learn something new in politics.

About a week ago, known jubilee bloggers shared two badly done Photoshop images of Raila.

One was a Rao supporter in Kibra holding a placard reading "No reforms no elections." In the photoshop, the message had been edited to read "Vote Raila = Vote God".

The second one was lifted from a normal campaign billboard along Ngong road. The edited message read " Vote Raila Baba, Raila mwana na Raila roho mtakatifu".

I laughed it off when I saw them but then close friends and family started asking me how I can be associated with such blasphemy. I had to keep re-posting the original photos but they still could not be convinced. I kept hearing thing like "Never mock God". Some were explaining God can forgive but the holy spirit is ruthless. Don't know what that means.

Then today I attended church in the village and the pastor was talking about the demonic powers that want to take over this country. Those photos were his reference point. In August I had hired quite a good number of young men and women in the village as NASA agents. Now people here are wondering whether I am part of this anti-christ movement.

Hats off cambridge analytica. They knew how powerful religion is and have used it to deliver a powerful blow to Raila.

This is propaganda-on-steroids.
Baratang
#2319 Posted : Sunday, October 08, 2017 2:25:51 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Everyday is an opportunity to learn something new in politics.

About a week ago, known jubilee bloggers shared two badly done Photoshop images of Raila.

One was a Rao supporter in Kibra holding a placard reading "No reforms no elections." In the photoshop, the message had been edited to read "Vote Raila = Vote God".

The second one was lifted from a normal campaign billboard along Ngong road. The edited message read " Vote Raila Baba, Raila mwana na Raila roho mtakatifu".

I laughed it off when I saw them but then close friends and family started asking me how I can be associated with such blasphemy. I had to keep re-posting the original photos but they still could not be convinced. I kept hearing thing like "Never mock God". Some were explaining God can forgive but the holy spirit is ruthless. Don't know what that means.

Then today I attended church in the village and the pastor was talking about the demonic powers that want to take over this country. Those photos were his reference point. In August I had hired quite a good number of young men and women in the village as NASA agents. Now people here are wondering whether I am part of this anti-christ movement.

Hats off cambridge analytica. They knew how powerful religion is and have used it to deliver a powerful blow to Raila.

This is propaganda-on-steroids.


The one on Raila Baba, Raila Mwana and Raila Roho mtakatifu is not propaganda. It is real.

Raila Baba Raila Mwana Raila Roho Mtakatifu
Kusadikika
#2320 Posted : Sunday, October 08, 2017 2:41:29 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Everyday is an opportunity to learn something new in politics.

About a week ago, known jubilee bloggers shared two badly done Photoshop images of Raila.

One was a Rao supporter in Kibra holding a placard reading "No reforms no elections." In the photoshop, the message had been edited to read "Vote Raila = Vote God".

The second one was lifted from a normal campaign billboard along Ngong road. The edited message read " Vote Raila Baba, Raila mwana na Raila roho mtakatifu".

I laughed it off when I saw them but then close friends and family started asking me how I can be associated with such blasphemy. I had to keep re-posting the original photos but they still could not be convinced. I kept hearing thing like "Never mock God". Some were explaining God can forgive but the holy spirit is ruthless. Don't know what that means.

Then today I attended church in the village and the pastor was talking about the demonic powers that want to take over this country. Those photos were his reference point. In August I had hired quite a good number of young men and women in the village as NASA agents. Now people here are wondering whether I am part of this anti-christ movement.

Hats off cambridge analytica. They knew how powerful religion is and have used it to deliver a powerful blow to Raila.

This is propaganda-on-steroids.


It is all in the mind. Unfortunately that is just how the world is. I would not worry too much about it because the people who will believe it had already taken a position before they heard it and even those those who have converted will very soon hear a different message from another source.

In North Korea all outside media is banned and every day the people are told that they are the most special, happiest, strongest and most beautiful people on earth, Kim Jong Un their supreme leader loves all of them dearly and their brothers in the South are enslaved by the Americans. With such a message even in the midst of famine not many people complain. That is one country nobody would want to go to war with because every single citizen is a soldier who will fight to the death because the battle of the mind is already won.
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