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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Angelica _ann
#11461 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2018 12:39:32 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu




Addis connection to any destination in Central and West Africa is unparalleled at the moment.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Swenani
#11462 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2018 2:52:03 PM
Rank: User

Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu




Addis connection to any destination in Central and West Africa is unparalleled at the moment.


Not just in Central and West Africa but also in Europe and Americas for an African hub
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
ArrestedDev
#11463 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:05:09 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu




Addis connection to any destination in Central and West Africa is unparalleled at the moment.


Lower taxes (lower ticket prices), cheap labour, state subsidies, large patriotic population in the diaspora , less competition into Addis from other Airlines, minimal cases of bribery and corruption, huge cargo network (dedicated freighters), integrated services to service the Airline (MRO facility, Cargo handling, Ground handling, Catering, Duty free, Airport security etc)

With all the above then what do you expect?
Angelica _ann
#11464 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:06:27 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
Swenani wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu




Addis connection to any destination in Central and West Africa is unparalleled at the moment.


Not just in Central and West Africa but also in Europe and Americas for an African hub


I was talking about the routes i use. smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Monk
#11465 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:38:04 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 7/1/2009
Posts: 272
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu


For a KQ officionado, you surprise me! Surely you don't believe Project Mawingu was the only nefarious scheme under Naikuni that brought it to its knees. What happened to your memory of the findings on ticketing scams, choreographed flight cancellations to benefit own hotels, and numerous other corrupt practices presided over by that "Dream team" star, and his C-suite team. Please try to maintain some objectivity and honesty, however much you love the stock.
Ericsson
#11466 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:33:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Big aviation news: Bole Airport (Addis Abeba) overtakes #Dubai Airport, for the first time ever, as the largest aviation gateway to Africa. Source: @ForwardKeys. A remarkable achievement by #Ethiopia, #Africa & @flyethiopian. Focus, vision, determination! Congratulations!
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obiero
#11467 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:39:44 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Monk wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu


For a KQ officionado, you surprise me! Surely you don't believe Project Mawingu was the only nefarious scheme under Naikuni that brought it to its knees. What happened to your memory of the findings on ticketing scams, choreographed flight cancellations to benefit own hotels, and numerous other corrupt practices presided over by that "Dream team" star, and his C-suite team. Please try to maintain some objectivity and honesty, however much you love the stock.

I could mention even more misdeeds but you get the point and that's all that matters

KQ ABP 4.26
Spikes
#11468 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2018 8:33:44 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
Monk wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu


For a KQ officionado, you surprise me! Surely you don't believe Project Mawingu was the only nefarious scheme under Naikuni that brought it to its knees. What happened to your memory of the findings on ticketing scams, choreographed flight cancellations to benefit own hotels, and numerous other corrupt practices presided over by that "Dream team" star, and his C-suite team. Please try to maintain some objectivity and honesty, however much you love the stock.

I could mention even more misdeeds but you get the point and that's all that matters

Subjective analysis from @Obiero has cost him massive capital erosion. I urged this KQ octogenarian to abandon the stock and rejuvenate his mindset in cryptocurrency.

I'll provide you free spot on analysis and due diligence guidance 1+1=2 kama vile kwa mtoto till you catch up with the rest of cryptos' astute investors and shrewd traders.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
VituVingiSana
#11469 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2018 1:52:13 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
Kenya's neighbours reject KQ's 'small' Bombadier planes
https://www.theeastafric...5224-2ppt2uz/index.html

Three east African countries have refused to allow flights of national carrier Kenya Airways’ (KQ) small bombardier planes into their countries in what could raise diplomatic tensions with Nairobi.

And TZ is also in the mix.

So silly but #ThisIsAfrica - I feel for KQ
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#11470 Posted : Friday, November 30, 2018 9:23:19 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Monk wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu


For a KQ officionado, you surprise me! Surely you don't believe Project Mawingu was the only nefarious scheme under Naikuni that brought it to its knees. What happened to your memory of the findings on ticketing scams, choreographed flight cancellations to benefit own hotels, and numerous other corrupt practices presided over by that "Dream team" star, and his C-suite team. Please try to maintain some objectivity and honesty, however much you love the stock.

I could mention even more misdeeds but you get the point and that's all that matters

Subjective analysis from @Obiero has cost him massive capital erosion. I urged this KQ octogenarian to abandon the stock and rejuvenate his mindset in cryptocurrency.

I'll provide you free spot on analysis and due diligence guidance 1+1=2 kama vile kwa mtoto till you catch up with the rest of cryptos' astute investors and shrewd traders.

Wewe kula hasara za Cryptocurrency polepole bila bughuda

KQ ABP 4.26
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