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obiero
#11451 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:18:20 AM
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Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Very lazy reporting https://www.businessdail...71574-kiu4r0/index.html


@ Obiero you're still in denial just the way you've been adamant to adopting cryptocurrency.

Tulia tuli.. Watch and learn

KQ ABP 4.26
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VituVingiSana
#11452 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:43:18 AM
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KQ, airports authority yet to agree on partnership with authority
https://www.businessdail...71574-kiu4r0/index.html

I "hope" the payment from Rubis doesn't take as long to show up!
Nothing from Rubis or CMA regarding the offer. As "excited" as I am, the non-completion by Puma is a cautionary tale.

I do wish the best for KQ but I don't want it to come back to the taxpayer or KQLC with a begging bowl.
How is it that the local Kaburu Banks didn't lend much to KQ?
Why are the largest shareholders in KQLC the local banks?
Did KQ mesmerize them?
Did GoK/Treasury arm-twist them?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#11453 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:51:14 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ, airports authority yet to agree on partnership with authority
https://www.businessdail...71574-kiu4r0/index.html

I "hope" the payment from Rubis doesn't take as long to show up!
Nothing from Rubis or CMA regarding the offer. As "excited" as I am, the non-completion by Puma is a cautionary tale.

I do wish the best for KQ but I don't want it to come back to the taxpayer or KQLC with a begging bowl.
How is it that the local Kaburu Banks didn't lend much to KQ?
Why are the largest shareholders in KQLC the local banks?
Did KQ mesmerize them?
Did GoK/Treasury arm-twist them?

KQLC are nationalist.. Why would a South African bank like BBK-ABSA assist Kenya Airways to achieve its ambition while SAA falters

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obiero
#11454 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:16:14 PM
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It's official. The KAA-KQ merger is at a point of no return. Joint memorandum on confirmation of pact to be issued before 31.12.2018. KQ share price expected to settle at minimum KES 21.. I will sell at KES 30 or higher

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hardwood
#11455 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:12:48 PM
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An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?
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obiero
#11456 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:35:05 PM
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hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar

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hardwood
#11457 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 10:40:12 PM
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obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?
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Impunity
#11458 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 11:11:29 PM
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hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?


They will give it a try.
Let it be.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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obiero
#11459 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2018 11:31:09 PM
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hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu

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maka
#11460 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:58:56 AM
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obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
obiero wrote:
hardwood wrote:
An airport authority managing all airports in a country should be independent of any of it's airline customers. Therefore that KAA/KQ deal is wrong. I don't know what international regulations say but this arrangement is wrong. It's like giving one matatu sacco eg Matako sacco authority to run all the bus termini in Kenya whereas this is the responsibility of county govts and also the numerous competitors would be unhappy with such an arrangement. If KQ hasn't succeeded in profitably ferrying passengers from point A to B how are they expected to manage airports and airstrips in mandela and lokichoggio? Why can't KQ focus on it's core business?

Kindly ask questions when unsure of the subject matter. KQ will be a concessionier in the arrangement, being contracted by KAA as the managing authority for JKIA and JKIA only.. All other 62 airports and airstrips remain under KAA..
Further reading on this can be the cases of Ethiopia, UAE, the Kingdom of Qatar


If they can't profitably manage their core business how will they manage JKIA?

Naikuni turned KQ inside out.. The company in itself would never have been in loss making territory if the management hadn't gambled on Project Mawingu


possunt quia posse videntur
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