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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Swenani
#11381 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:05:52 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Angelica _ann
#11382 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:11:17 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ali Baba
#11383 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:20:57 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/29/2008
Posts: 573
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.
Personally,I wouldn't fly the NBO-JFK non stop KQ route.I like to stretch my legs after about 8hours.And reduce the risk of thrombosis.
VituVingiSana
#11384 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:26:31 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.

"Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA"
I checked and like what the others have said... it does NOT apply to Americans flying on non-gov't business. USG employees can fly any airline for personal travel. Furthermore, non-US airlines can be taken if the logistics call for it.

USA-NBO pax also includes Kenyans, diasporans, other Africans (EAC, Somalia, southern Africa), Canadians, World Bank & IMF employees, UN personnel and Americans on personal travel.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Horton
#11385 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:27:45 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
Ali Baba wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.
Personally,I wouldn't fly the NBO-JFK non stop KQ route.I like to stretch my legs after about 8hours.And reduce the risk of thrombosis.


I did the flight and it’s very comfortable. DVT requires you to stretch not do a 100m sprint. It’s made flying to the US very easy and convenient. Going to the US I went via Europe and that was a headache 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
obiero
#11386 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:38:22 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,216
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.

"Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA"
I checked and like what the others have said... it does NOT apply to Americans flying on non-gov't business. USG employees can fly any airline for personal travel. Furthermore, non-US airlines can be taken if the logistics call for it.

USA-NBO pax also includes Kenyans, diasporans, other Africans (EAC, Somalia, southern Africa), Canadians, World Bank & IMF employees, UN personnel and Americans on personal travel.

The problem with arguing for the sake is that you may get away with anything that you believe, even if it is not supported by facts. Codeshare under Fly American allows for the rest of the route to be covered on partner airlines. A good percentage of the travelers shall be US state officials. For the regular folk, especially in NYC; these are not 'poor' people intent on hops. They fly direct. Which is what KQ has offered

KQ ABP 4.26
Ali Baba
#11387 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 3:40:25 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/29/2008
Posts: 573
Horton wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.
Personally,I wouldn't fly the NBO-JFK non stop KQ route.I like to stretch my legs after about 8hours.And reduce the risk of thrombosis.


I did the flight and it’s very comfortable. DVT requires you to stretch not do a 100m sprint. It’s made flying to the US very easy and convenient. Going to the US I went via Europe and that was a headache 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I agree;but 15hours in one plane is not very interesting.If there was a 2hour stop over somewhere in west africa,it would be great.
obiero
#11388 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 4:16:01 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,216
Location: nairobi
Ali Baba wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.
Personally,I wouldn't fly the NBO-JFK non stop KQ route.I like to stretch my legs after about 8hours.And reduce the risk of thrombosis.


I did the flight and it’s very comfortable. DVT requires you to stretch not do a 100m sprint. It’s made flying to the US very easy and convenient. Going to the US I went via Europe and that was a headache 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I agree;but 15hours in one plane is not very interesting.If there was a 2hour stop over somewhere in west africa,it would be great.

Non-stop baba

KQ ABP 4.26
freiks
#11389 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 4:25:26 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/8/2010
Posts: 1,734
obiero wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Horton wrote:
Ali Baba wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.
Personally,I wouldn't fly the NBO-JFK non stop KQ route.I like to stretch my legs after about 8hours.And reduce the risk of thrombosis.


I did the flight and it’s very comfortable. DVT requires you to stretch not do a 100m sprint. It’s made flying to the US very easy and convenient. Going to the US I went via Europe and that was a headache 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I agree;but 15hours in one plane is not very interesting.If there was a 2hour stop over somewhere in west africa,it would be great.

Non-stop baba


Those stops are chaos sometimes you have a delay and connecting flights leave, you have to be rescheduled and imagine you are attending a meeting that you had only one day rest that means you have to do with jetlag. Not once i have missed my connecting flight at LHR and CDG to JFK or coming back to Kenya and bags being left yet you had that perfect gift for your spouse in that bag then it comes when you have already gone back
Life is an endless adventure
VituVingiSana
#11390 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2018 11:16:37 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
NBO-West Africa-NYC could have captured a lot of traffic to/from USA-West Africa.
The 787 could have replaced some of the 737 seats on NBO-West Africa routes.
The disadvantage would have been the 787 can't do the matatu hops like the 737.

The two most crucial components of a flight remain take off and landing.. I would rather reduce the odds than increase them on route serviced by Delta. Which American would rather fly KQ out of Accra than their very own Delta!

The same Americans who fly KLM to AMS? Or AF to CDG? Or BA to LHR?

Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA


The fly american policy only applies to US federal and state employees or private sector employees contracted by the federal or state(s) government of USA


Fly America will also not apply for passngers going beyond the destinataion of the American Ailrlines .... therefore anybody going beyond Accra can board KQ officially bila wasiwasi.

"Check the NTSB stats and the Fly American state policy of the USA"
I checked and like what the others have said... it does NOT apply to Americans flying on non-gov't business. USG employees can fly any airline for personal travel. Furthermore, non-US airlines can be taken if the logistics call for it.

USA-NBO pax also includes Kenyans, diasporans, other Africans (EAC, Somalia, southern Africa), Canadians, World Bank & IMF employees, UN personnel and Americans on personal travel.

The problem with arguing for the sake is that you may get away with anything that you believe, even if it is not supported by facts. Codeshare under Fly American allows for the rest of the route to be covered on partner airlines. A good percentage of the travelers shall be US state officials. For the regular folk, especially in NYC; these are not 'poor' people intent on hops. They fly direct. Which is what KQ has offered

I take it the roaring success is why KQ went from 7/weekly to 3/weekly?
And even then it can't fill a 787? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
BUT since I am a shareholder via KQLC, I am Sad
I hope minorities support KQ's fund-raising efforts and leave the poor banks alone. Applause Applause Applause
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