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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:tandich wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! As I suspected, the chosen aeroplane can't carry full capacity for such a long flight. If break-even load factor is 90% and even 83% is technically unachievable, the only way to make money is to hike prices. Could this work in a competitive environment? It could work based on the fuel efficiency of the chosen aircraft.. Ethiopian flies the same type of plane on its long haul. Remember current pricing is still introductory. Meanwhile why would anyone care to count the number of bags left, if not to smear KQ. 29 bags are not many bags out of the number of passangers It's a painful experience for the pax whose bags were left behind. One might be getting married. One might be there for business and had samples. Poor planning. What if all 234 seats had been filled? Leave behind 70 bags? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Which banks are in this KQLC arrangement? Asante Google  Equity, NBK, Coop, CBA, NIC, KCB, DTB, I&M, Ecobank...... & Chase bank & (Jamii Bora) Something odd, no mzungu aka kaburu bank including the leading conmanship syndicate loans arranger in Kenya in that fake arrangement. I had mentioned that earlier. Were local banks forced to lend to KQ? The local banks were forced to convert Debt to Equity. Equity Bank refused to convert Debt to Equity at a much higher price.  King James managed to get a better deal for the other banks too. It's a pity that good money is being flushed down the toilet. The minority shareholders should be tapped at 10/- and told to invest as much as they can in their precious airline. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:freiks wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi..  KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own. We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24 Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy Isn't 2019 the year when @obiero & others supposed to pump in 1.5B to be eaten by staff, management and advisors? I have said it here umpteen times. The current price for KQ is not factual hence the low volume count since November 2017 when the share was suspended pending restructuring.. Upon release of the Open Offer details, you will get to find out the true value of KQ Open offer ilisahaulika and was passed by events.Right now focus is profitability and positive shareholder equity That is absurd.. The Open Offer was never cancelled.. You do know that KQ is currently arranging for KES 18B financing via KQLC to be structured under the Ordinary Mandatory Convert option 1, primarily for new planes and parts purchases? And KLM have issued a LHR slot in exchange of additional KES 3.5 billion worth of KQ shares? KAA release of JKIA in concession to KQ set to be completed latest January 2019? There's a lot happening in the background at KQ on both the financial and operation ends.. Remember the Polish man said he wants a fleet of over 150 planes and over 100 destinations. Sio kujigamba but I am good at buying at the very lowest possible price.. Remember BK, BRW, CENT, COOP, FIRE, HF, KCB, KEGN, SBUG.. Mutajua hamjui Sebastian wants KQ to be delisted Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,215 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:freiks wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi.. KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own. We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24 Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy Isn't 2019 the year when @obiero & others supposed to pump in 1.5B to be eaten by staff, management and advisors? I have said it here umpteen times. The current price for KQ is not factual hence the low volume count since November 2017 when the share was suspended pending restructuring.. Upon release of the Open Offer details, you will get to find out the true value of KQ Open offer ilisahaulika and was passed by events.Right now focus is profitability and positive shareholder equity That is absurd.. The Open Offer was never cancelled.. You do know that KQ is currently arranging for KES 18B financing via KQLC to be structured under the Ordinary Mandatory Convert option 1, primarily for new planes and parts purchases? And KLM have issued a LHR slot in exchange of additional KES 3.5 billion worth of KQ shares? KAA release of JKIA in concession to KQ set to be completed latest January 2019? There's a lot happening in the background at KQ on both the financial and operation ends.. Remember the Polish man said he wants a fleet of over 150 planes and over 100 destinations. Sio kujigamba but I am good at buying at the very lowest possible price.. Remember BK, BRW, CENT, COOP, FIRE, HF, KCB, KEGN, SBUG.. Mutajua hamjui Sebastian wants KQ to be delisted Yes. Michael Joseph too has the same frame of mind as discussed with CNBC ZA mid this year. Tulipwe KES 30 per share tuende zetu kwa amani
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:freiks wrote:Horton wrote:obiero wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:obiero wrote:@obiero continues to hold 95,000 KQ shares at ABP of KES 21.9 representing his final stand, with no further purchase, courtesy of the uncertainty upon KQs previously proposed Open Offer. It's now a matter of waiting and/or hoping for the KAA-KQ tie up; in which P&L factors holding constant, will turn KQ profitable instantly upon merger.. My biggest gamble in securities-life so far as no one now knows where the dice may fall. Maombi.. KQ has no shame, getting KAA into their quagmire of crazy losses. This is very sad kabisa, hope it doesn't go through. To each should be their own. We operate under one government. Two state agencies operating in synchronization should only be opposed by enemies of progress Took KQ3 from JFK last week on 12/11 was a great flight. J-class was full economy had seats avail. Very convenient usually would have to connect via AMS/CDG/LHR and that can be difficult with kids/luggage and takes longer to get to NBO Basically those who have been negative on NewYork route have no business in US and they know they will never take that route anytime soon. It used to take me minimum 34 hours to get to Caribbean countries but now am looking at sub 24 Cutomers are happy! Everyone is happy with KQ except the minority shareholders KQ management have taken the right steps in steadying the plane through turbulence.. A profit is imminent in 2019 and then we shall see if the minority shareholders will not be happy Isn't 2019 the year when @obiero & others supposed to pump in 1.5B to be eaten by staff, management and advisors? I have said it here umpteen times. The current price for KQ is not factual hence the low volume count since November 2017 when the share was suspended pending restructuring.. Upon release of the Open Offer details, you will get to find out the true value of KQ Open offer ilisahaulika and was passed by events.Right now focus is profitability and positive shareholder equity That is absurd.. The Open Offer was never cancelled.. You do know that KQ is currently arranging for KES 18B financing via KQLC to be structured under the Ordinary Mandatory Convert option 1, primarily for new planes and parts purchases? And KLM have issued a LHR slot in exchange of additional KES 3.5 billion worth of KQ shares? KAA release of JKIA in concession to KQ set to be completed latest January 2019? There's a lot happening in the background at KQ on both the financial and operation ends.. Remember the Polish man said he wants a fleet of over 150 planes and over 100 destinations. Sio kujigamba but I am good at buying at the very lowest possible price.. Remember BK, BRW, CENT, COOP, FIRE, HF, KCB, KEGN, SBUG.. Mutajua hamjui Sebastian wants KQ to be delisted Yes. Michael Joseph too has the same frame of mind as discussed with CNBC ZA mid this year. Tulipwe KES 30 per share tuende zetu kwa amani Kama nikulipwa labda 16 per share;30 is too ambitious Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:tandich wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! As I suspected, the chosen aeroplane can't carry full capacity for such a long flight. If break-even load factor is 90% and even 83% is technically unachievable, the only way to make money is to hike prices. Could this work in a competitive environment? It could work based on the fuel efficiency of the chosen aircraft.. Ethiopian flies the same type of plane on its long haul. Remember current pricing is still introductory. Meanwhile why would anyone care to count the number of bags left, if not to smear KQ. 29 bags are not many bags out of the number of passangers It's a painful experience for the pax whose bags were left behind. One might be getting married. One might be there for business and had samples. Poor planning. What if all 234 seats had been filled? Leave behind 70 bags? Yep extrapolate... Now add the cost of delivering the bag to wherever you are.... 😊 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:tandich wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! As I suspected, the chosen aeroplane can't carry full capacity for such a long flight. If break-even load factor is 90% and even 83% is technically unachievable, the only way to make money is to hike prices. Could this work in a competitive environment? It could work based on the fuel efficiency of the chosen aircraft.. Ethiopian flies the same type of plane on its long haul. Remember current pricing is still introductory. Meanwhile why would anyone care to count the number of bags left, if not to smear KQ. 29 bags are not many bags out of the number of passangers It's a painful experience for the pax whose bags were left behind. One might be getting married. One might be there for business and had samples. Poor planning. What if all 234 seats had been filled? Leave behind 70 bags? Yep extrapolate... Now add the cost of delivering the bag to wherever you are.... 😊 When the plane is full ni shida. When it flies half empty ni shida. Mnataka KQ wafanye nini?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi
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Did Kenya Airways do due diligence on US route? Read more at: https://www.standardmedi...te-flight-strategy-wrongGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,215 Location: nairobi
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hardwood wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:tandich wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! As I suspected, the chosen aeroplane can't carry full capacity for such a long flight. If break-even load factor is 90% and even 83% is technically unachievable, the only way to make money is to hike prices. Could this work in a competitive environment? It could work based on the fuel efficiency of the chosen aircraft.. Ethiopian flies the same type of plane on its long haul. Remember current pricing is still introductory. Meanwhile why would anyone care to count the number of bags left, if not to smear KQ. 29 bags are not many bags out of the number of passangers It's a painful experience for the pax whose bags were left behind. One might be getting married. One might be there for business and had samples. Poor planning. What if all 234 seats had been filled? Leave behind 70 bags? Yep extrapolate... Now add the cost of delivering the bag to wherever you are.... 😊 When the plane is full ni shida. When it flies half empty ni shida. Mnataka KQ wafanye nini? They want to board Zimbabwe Airlines. Wanafik. These things happen in aviation
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:tandich wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:On 17Nov, 29 bags to JFK were left behind because of payload. Flight had 196 passengers against a full capacity of 234. Too much cargo? It's good to see high load factors but pissing off pax isn't good! As I suspected, the chosen aeroplane can't carry full capacity for such a long flight. If break-even load factor is 90% and even 83% is technically unachievable, the only way to make money is to hike prices. Could this work in a competitive environment? It could work based on the fuel efficiency of the chosen aircraft.. Ethiopian flies the same type of plane on its long haul. Remember current pricing is still introductory. Meanwhile why would anyone care to count the number of bags left, if not to smear KQ. 29 bags are not many bags out of the number of passangers It's a painful experience for the pax whose bags were left behind. One might be getting married. One might be there for business and had samples. Poor planning. What if all 234 seats had been filled? Leave behind 70 bags? Yep extrapolate... Now add the cost of delivering the bag to wherever you are.... 😊 When the plane is full ni shida. When it flies half empty ni shida. Mnataka KQ wafanye nini? Tunataka watuambie sorry... Hawatarudia.... Then watuskize... 😂😂😂 Anyway to each his own I gave up on KQ a long time ago... possunt quia posse videntur
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