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tom_boy
#1111 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2018 5:46:45 PM
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Joined: 2/20/2007
Posts: 767
Impunity wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue.


For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.







I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper.
Thanks to @Maka for ispiration.


How much in face value did you put in?
Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings.


Is WHT a final tax on the interest on bills and bonds? Will I still be required to add the interest to my other income and do the tax bracket calculations then deduct tax withheld?
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Impunity
#1112 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:14:59 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
tom_boy wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue.


For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.







I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper.
Thanks to @Maka for ispiration.


How much in face value did you put in?
Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings.


Is WHT a final tax on the interest on bills and bonds? Will I still be required to add the interest to my other income and do the tax bracket calculations then deduct tax withheld?


Your question is poorly presented.
What's the question?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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maka
#1113 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2018 9:05:37 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue.


For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.







I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper.
Thanks to @Maka for ispiration.


How much in face value did you put in?
Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings.


Is WHT a final tax on the interest on bills and bonds? Will I still be required to add the interest to my other income and do the tax bracket calculations then deduct tax withheld?


Your question is poorly presented.
What's the question?


Not a tax expert... I think it's final tax and you don't have to declare it anywhere that's why you get that ka certificate showing you have already paid it... They should stop sending those things they come 1 year late...
possunt quia posse videntur
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tom_boy
#1114 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2018 10:11:47 AM
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Joined: 2/20/2007
Posts: 767
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue.


For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.







I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper.
Thanks to @Maka for ispiration.


How much in face value did you put in?
Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings.


Is WHT a final tax on the interest on bills and bonds? Will I still be required to add the interest to my other income and do the tax bracket calculations then deduct tax withheld?


Your question is poorly presented.
What's the question?


Not a tax expert... I think it's final tax and you don't have to declare it anywhere that's why you get that ka certificate showing you have already paid it... They should stop sending those things they come 1 year late...


Thanks @ Maka. Any tax expert to corroborate?
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Ebenyo
#1115 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2018 11:55:19 AM
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Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Impunity wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue.


For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.







I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper.
Thanks to @Maka for ispiration.


How much in face value did you put in?
Otherwise you would have been better off buying njugu karanga with your 100K shillings.


Njugu karanga is not bad.The difference is that in the t.bond and stocks,my money is working for me while in njugu karanga,i will have to work for money.I prefer my money working for me as my target is to attain financial freedom.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Ebenyo
#1116 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2018 3:35:38 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
maka wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue.


For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.







I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper.
Thanks to @Maka for ispiration.


Build it pole pole trust me you won't regret...

You will buy me a mzinga when we hit a few millions on face value.... 😊




As the saying goes,haraka haraka haina baraka.That day is comingApplause Applause
Towards the goal of financial freedom
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ibsi
#1117 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2018 4:22:41 PM
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Joined: 5/7/2010
Posts: 38
Location: Nairobi
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue.


For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.







I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper.
Thanks to @Maka for ispiration.


Build it pole pole trust me you won't regret...

You will buy me a mzinga when we hit a few millions on face value.... 😊




As the saying goes,haraka haraka haina baraka.That day is comingApplause Applause


Does anyone there have a spreadsheet or anything that can track and record bond issues, interest, maturity dates, alerts etc? I'll be grateful.
Trust in God and endure patiently.
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maka
#1118 Posted : Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:07:20 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
maka wrote:
ibsi wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
today is the auction.hebu @maka atupee results tujue.


For the FXD2/2018/10 bond, the coupon is 12.502% which means after WT you only get 11.2518%.







I succeeded in getting this one.Sent the RTGS to cbk yesterday.Marks my second paper.
Thanks to @Maka for ispiration.


Build it pole pole trust me you won't regret...

You will buy me a mzinga when we hit a few millions on face value.... 😊




As the saying goes,haraka haraka haina baraka.That day is comingApplause Applause


Does anyone there have a spreadsheet or anything that can track and record bond issues, interest, maturity dates, alerts etc? I'll be grateful.



You have to do it manually... I have a personal tracker...

Can send that to you... The CBK website this days give maturities for monthly...

https://www.centralbank....s-bonds/treasury-bonds/

possunt quia posse videntur
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tom_boy
#1119 Posted : Saturday, December 22, 2018 10:02:59 AM
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Joined: 2/20/2007
Posts: 767
For the veterans in bond trading, I have 2 questions

1. What additional bank charges have you experienced when receiving interest/principal from CBK?
2. How easy is it to sell the Tbill or Bond on Secondary Market? Can I get my money at whatever prevailing price in say 1 week in event of an emergency?
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Impunity
#1120 Posted : Sunday, December 23, 2018 11:44:56 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
tom_boy wrote:
For the veterans in bond trading, I have 2 questions

1. What additional bank charges have you experienced when receiving interest/principal from CBK?
2. How easy is it to sell the Tbill or Bond on Secondary Market? Can I get my money at whatever prevailing price in say 1 week in event of an emergency?


Answer to no.1,NIL charges according to my Simba Commercial Bank.
No.2 we await Maka.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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