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maka
#11131 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:01:58 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
hardwood wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka

What happened to KQ001?

If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.

Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?

If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now?


Daily flights.
28th KQ2 was KZG, returned 30th (EAT) as KQ3
29th KQ2 was KZC, returned today 31st (EAT) as KQ3
30TH KQ2 was KZG, currently in middle of atlantic headed to NY, will return tmr 9.30 EAT as KQ3
31st KQ2 will be KZC.

2 planes KZG and KZC being used for the route. Cpt Kinuthia left on 28 with KZG but returned today 31st with KZC.


Tell us about how fast the pax numbers are dwindling...I am totally sorry about sounding like a broken record... This is the last I will talk about how bad the move was....

possunt quia posse videntur
hardwood
#11132 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:20:29 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka

What happened to KQ001?

If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.

Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?

If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now?


Daily flights.
28th KQ2 was KZG, returned 30th (EAT) as KQ3
29th KQ2 was KZC, returned today 31st (EAT) as KQ3
30TH KQ2 was KZG, currently in middle of atlantic headed to NY, will return tmr 9.30 EAT as KQ3
31st KQ2 will be KZC.

2 planes KZG and KZC being used for the route. Cpt Kinuthia left on 28 with KZG but returned today 31st with KZC.


Tell us about how fast the pax numbers are dwindling...I am totally sorry about sounding like a broken record... This is the last I will talk about how bad the move was....



Relax, even mama mboga doesn't make a profit on week 1 of operation. The customer base is built up over time. Also we wanjiku via GoK will bail out KQ if things don't work out, just like we have done in the past.

And it's strange that you work for KQ but are its fiercest critic. Maybe you should change jobs if you are not happy with the direction the company is taking. A team can never win when some members are playing against their own team.
tandich
#11133 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:45:13 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/6/2008
Posts: 199
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka

What happened to KQ001?

If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.

Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?

If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now?


Daily flights.
28th KQ2 was KZG, returned 30th (EAT) as KQ3
29th KQ2 was KZC, returned today 31st (EAT) as KQ3
30TH KQ2 was KZG, currently in middle of atlantic headed to NY, will return tmr 9.30 EAT as KQ3
31st KQ2 will be KZC.

2 planes KZG and KZC being used for the route. Cpt Kinuthia left on 28 with KZG but returned today 31st with KZC.


Tell us about how fast the pax numbers are dwindling...I am totally sorry about sounding like a broken record... This is the last I will talk about how bad the move was....



@maka
Do you have data on revenue passengers on those flights? Financial performance? Seems it is dire.

All these seem to be lost within the PR blitz. Sadly, but true, a pig is a pig no matter how much lipstick you apply. In my view, here is a future excuse similar to Ebola.
obiero
#11134 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:53:13 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
tandich wrote:
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka

What happened to KQ001?

If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.

Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?

If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now?


Daily flights.
28th KQ2 was KZG, returned 30th (EAT) as KQ3
29th KQ2 was KZC, returned today 31st (EAT) as KQ3
30TH KQ2 was KZG, currently in middle of atlantic headed to NY, will return tmr 9.30 EAT as KQ3
31st KQ2 will be KZC.

2 planes KZG and KZC being used for the route. Cpt Kinuthia left on 28 with KZG but returned today 31st with KZC.


Tell us about how fast the pax numbers are dwindling...I am totally sorry about sounding like a broken record... This is the last I will talk about how bad the move was....



@maka
Do you have data on revenue passengers on those flights? Financial performance? Seems it is dire.

All these seem to be lost within the PR blitz. Sadly, but true, a pig is a pig no matter how much lipstick you apply. In my view, here is a future excuse similar to Ebola.

Any new routes in aviation take an average of three years to break even

KQ ABP 4.26
maka
#11135 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:19:54 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
tandich wrote:
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka

What happened to KQ001?

If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.

Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?

If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now?


Daily flights.
28th KQ2 was KZG, returned 30th (EAT) as KQ3
29th KQ2 was KZC, returned today 31st (EAT) as KQ3
30TH KQ2 was KZG, currently in middle of atlantic headed to NY, will return tmr 9.30 EAT as KQ3
31st KQ2 will be KZC.

2 planes KZG and KZC being used for the route. Cpt Kinuthia left on 28 with KZG but returned today 31st with KZC.


Tell us about how fast the pax numbers are dwindling...I am totally sorry about sounding like a broken record... This is the last I will talk about how bad the move was....



@maka
Do you have data on revenue passengers on those flights? Financial performance? Seems it is dire.

All these seem to be lost within the PR blitz. Sadly, but true, a pig is a pig no matter how much lipstick you apply. In my view, here is a future excuse similar to Ebola.

Any new routes in aviation take an average of three years to break even


Does KQ have 3 years? To pay for a non profitable route? Do they have the money?

Il get you the data @Tandich...acha ichape mwezi...moja ama mbili hivi...

Some KQ insider gave Alai some 411...

https://www.kahawatungu....w-york-not-sustainable/




possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#11136 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 1:32:35 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
tandich wrote:
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka

What happened to KQ001?

If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.

Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?

If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now?


Daily flights.
28th KQ2 was KZG, returned 30th (EAT) as KQ3
29th KQ2 was KZC, returned today 31st (EAT) as KQ3
30TH KQ2 was KZG, currently in middle of atlantic headed to NY, will return tmr 9.30 EAT as KQ3
31st KQ2 will be KZC.

2 planes KZG and KZC being used for the route. Cpt Kinuthia left on 28 with KZG but returned today 31st with KZC.


Tell us about how fast the pax numbers are dwindling...I am totally sorry about sounding like a broken record... This is the last I will talk about how bad the move was....



@maka
Do you have data on revenue passengers on those flights? Financial performance? Seems it is dire.

All these seem to be lost within the PR blitz. Sadly, but true, a pig is a pig no matter how much lipstick you apply. In my view, here is a future excuse similar to Ebola.

Any new routes in aviation take an average of three years to break even


Does KQ have 3 years? To pay for a non profitable route? Do they have the money?

Il get you the data @Tandich...acha ichape mwezi...moja ama mbili hivi...

Some KQ insider gave Alai some 411...

https://www.kahawatungu....w-york-not-sustainable/





Alai should be your last person to quote in any issue.. Meanwhile, KQ has GoK backing and be sure that they will get funds from big brother or KQLC.. We are in perfect company

KQ ABP 4.26
hardwood
#11137 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:12:59 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
The eagle has landed. 5Y-KZG just landed on runway 31R at JFK.
ArrestedDev
#11138 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:19:36 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
tandich wrote:
maka wrote:
hardwood wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka

What happened to KQ001?

If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.

Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?

If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now?


Daily flights.
28th KQ2 was KZG, returned 30th (EAT) as KQ3
29th KQ2 was KZC, returned today 31st (EAT) as KQ3
30TH KQ2 was KZG, currently in middle of atlantic headed to NY, will return tmr 9.30 EAT as KQ3
31st KQ2 will be KZC.

2 planes KZG and KZC being used for the route. Cpt Kinuthia left on 28 with KZG but returned today 31st with KZC.


Tell us about how fast the pax numbers are dwindling...I am totally sorry about sounding like a broken record... This is the last I will talk about how bad the move was....



@maka
Do you have data on revenue passengers on those flights? Financial performance? Seems it is dire.

All these seem to be lost within the PR blitz. Sadly, but true, a pig is a pig no matter how much lipstick you apply. In my view, here is a future excuse similar to Ebola.

Any new routes in aviation take an average of three years to break even


Does KQ have 3 years? To pay for a non profitable route? Do they have the money?

Il get you the data @Tandich...acha ichape mwezi...moja ama mbili hivi...

Some KQ insider gave Alai some 411...

https://www.kahawatungu....w-york-not-sustainable/






It is not detailed as such to determine if the claims made are factual. Just to deconstruct the story,

- one plane was returned from a sub-lease arrangement and now KQ will pay the lease cost.
- the Dreamliner cargo belly has space for cargo. I saw the cargo storage space reserved for US destined flowers at the Cargo warehouse was full, courtesy of Quest means business

Even if this route initially operate on a loss, there are significant measures already taken to stop wastage in KQ as you have reported here e.g.

- capping of foreign station allowance to $ 400
- staff rationalization in Lagos station
- sourcing of spare parts and rotables directly from Boeing
- ending of buddy tickets scheme to curb misuse and tap full revenue tickets
- reduction of baggage allowance on intra-Africa flights to tap more revenue from cargo and excess baggage
- introduction of EUR as an additional ticket payment currency especially in Europe
- streamlining of the procurement function i.e. implementation of the forensic audit findings - terminating key staff in supply chain and fuel procurement
- short term fuel hedging contracts
- additional routes to come on board, more frequencies already added to CPT, SYZ
- new catering menu will save costs on short haul flights. It was actually a downgrade for the short haul routes and means more profit. It is was cleverly done like the baggage reduction

I believe there are more initiatives already undertaken/ to come. Even the reduction of the frequencies on this new route will have a huge impact on the bottom line i.e. minimise the anticipated losses.

hardwood
#11139 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:20:04 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Zichi wrote:
The numbers are quite low. Hopefully they'll pick up. Tonight KQ2 is departing with less than 100 passengers

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


90...


What is the passenger load factor for other routes such as London, Amsterdam, Paris, Guangzhou etc?
VituVingiSana
#11140 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:13:33 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@maka

What happened to KQ001?

If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.

Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?

If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now?


It was there.... On Monday.... Captain Kinuthia and the first crew are coming back this morning with Sebastian...

Check this at any given time they will be 30 crew at the NYC hotel...
Everybody but the Shareholders make money off KQ!
KQ should just lease/buy a 40-room motel in NYC at this rate!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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