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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:freiks wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Maka
Question: If the flight is well-priced, then why can't KQ fly 80% full daily?
Facts:
There are 1000s of Kenyans/Diasporans flying to/from the (Northeast) US annually.
Currently, one has to stop at LHR, AMS, CDG on SkyTeam.
LH uses FRA [not sure if Brussels flies to NBO].
BA uses LHR.
TK uses IST.
Ethiopian uses ADD.
The ME airlines flights are much longer.
Then add the East Africans (TZ, UG, RW, BU) and Southern Africans (Mauritius, Malawi, etc) who could use KQ to get to NYC.
Of course, the flights have to reasonably priced + good connections (Delta) + profitable for KQ.
*I am rooting for KQ. I have a 1/50,000,000 (of GoK's) stake in KQ + a much larger indirect stake via KQLC. @vvs don’t try to convince @maka.. he is set in his ways and had even attempted to stall the maiden flight with a strike.. and what would be the problem in scaling down on the daily flights Incase it’s needed.. biashara ni kujaribu! 3 Anyone who has looked at the flight booking status for the month of Nov. Dec will be full Tuko hapa boss.... I can get you daily figures for the rest of our life time for any flight you want... @VVS...rem that's an introductory fare... Wait for next year you see how much the flight will cost.. I am 110% sure I will be vindicated on this one... For now let's enjoy the optics... I agree that KQ has to be competitive vs other airlines. Unless GoK, UN, WB, MNCs etc are paying, most pax will not pay a huge premium to fly direct, non-stop to NYC. If one is flying to/from another city [Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, LA, SF, etc] then the advantage of flying into NYC, to catch a connecting flight, is lost. Domestic travel in USA is commoditized.. It’s like riding a nduthi.. We cannot use that as an excuse Exactly, that's why many would rather fly from NBO and change planes in AMS, CDG, LHR, etc direct to their final destination eg ATL, BOS, IAD, ORD, SFO, LAX... The quality of service/amenities/freebies on int'l flights are usually much better than domestic US flights. KQ is part of sky team, therefore coonection is not a problem. Delta can do the local connections from JFK Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,215 Location: nairobi
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freiks wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:freiks wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:@Maka
Question: If the flight is well-priced, then why can't KQ fly 80% full daily?
Facts:
There are 1000s of Kenyans/Diasporans flying to/from the (Northeast) US annually.
Currently, one has to stop at LHR, AMS, CDG on SkyTeam.
LH uses FRA [not sure if Brussels flies to NBO].
BA uses LHR.
TK uses IST.
Ethiopian uses ADD.
The ME airlines flights are much longer.
Then add the East Africans (TZ, UG, RW, BU) and Southern Africans (Mauritius, Malawi, etc) who could use KQ to get to NYC.
Of course, the flights have to reasonably priced + good connections (Delta) + profitable for KQ.
*I am rooting for KQ. I have a 1/50,000,000 (of GoK's) stake in KQ + a much larger indirect stake via KQLC. @vvs don’t try to convince @maka.. he is set in his ways and had even attempted to stall the maiden flight with a strike.. and what would be the problem in scaling down on the daily flights Incase it’s needed.. biashara ni kujaribu! 3 Anyone who has looked at the flight booking status for the month of Nov. Dec will be full Tuko hapa boss.... I can get you daily figures for the rest of our life time for any flight you want... @VVS...rem that's an introductory fare... Wait for next year you see how much the flight will cost.. I am 110% sure I will be vindicated on this one... For now let's enjoy the optics... I agree that KQ has to be competitive vs other airlines. Unless GoK, UN, WB, MNCs etc are paying, most pax will not pay a huge premium to fly direct, non-stop to NYC. If one is flying to/from another city [Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, LA, SF, etc] then the advantage of flying into NYC, to catch a connecting flight, is lost. Domestic travel in USA is commoditized.. It’s like riding a nduthi.. We cannot use that as an excuse Exactly, that's why many would rather fly from NBO and change planes in AMS, CDG, LHR, etc direct to their final destination eg ATL, BOS, IAD, ORD, SFO, LAX... The quality of service/amenities/freebies on int'l flights are usually much better than domestic US flights. KQ is part of sky team, therefore coonection is not a problem. Delta can do the local connections from JFK That is the whole truth. And once we get those guys into JKIA, they feed into the rest of Africa. Its a dream revival strategy that may work. Meanwhile all flights upto 7th November booked courtesy of the New York marathon
KQ ABP 4.26
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The numbers are quite low. Hopefully they'll pick up. Tonight KQ2 is departing with less than 100 passengers
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,215 Location: nairobi
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Zichi wrote:The numbers are quite low. Hopefully they'll pick up. Tonight KQ2 is departing with less than 100 passengers It appears NBO inbound has more traction, but these are early days
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi
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Zichi wrote:The numbers are quite low. Hopefully they'll pick up. Tonight KQ2 is departing with less than 100 passengers  Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,347 Location: Nairobi
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@maka What happened to KQ001? If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct. I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct. Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct? If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/24/2017 Posts: 44
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VituVingiSana wrote:@maka
What happened to KQ001?
If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.
Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?
If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now? KQ2 on 29th was on KZC, arrived at NY at 720 am (NY local)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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90... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:@maka
What happened to KQ001?
If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.
Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?
If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now? It was there.... On Monday.... Captain Kinuthia and the first crew are coming back this morning with Sebastian... Check this at any given time they will be 30 crew at the NYC hotel... possunt quia posse videntur
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VituVingiSana wrote:@maka
What happened to KQ001?
If KQ002 (5Y-KZE) left NBO for JFK at 11pm on 28th Oct for a 15 hours and got to JFK at 7am on 29th Oct.
I assume a quick turnaround for the same bird but now as KQ003 (JFK-NBO) departure at 1pm on 29th Oct with arrival in NBO at 9.30am (scheduled 10.30am) on 30th Oct.
Was there a KQ002 flight from NBO-JFK on 29th Oct?
If no, then is it a 3x week flight for now? Daily flights. 28th KQ2 was KZG, returned 30th (EAT) as KQ3 29th KQ2 was KZC, returned today 31st (EAT) as KQ3 30TH KQ2 was KZG, currently in middle of atlantic headed to NY, will return tmr 9.30 EAT as KQ3 31st KQ2 will be KZC. 2 planes KZG and KZC being used for the route. Cpt Kinuthia left on 28 with KZG but returned today 31st with KZC.
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