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AlphDoti
#101 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 10:13:45 AM
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aemathenge wrote:
Amores wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
murchr wrote:
heri wrote:
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
I don't get this 'winner takes all' talk.

So should a losing football teams earn one point while the winner gets two instead of all three?

What we need is equitable distribution of resources not sharing positions.

The lamu governor got 60,000 votes. The government provides him with vehicles, security for his family and home and all the trappings of power.

Rao got 6M votes. The current constitution says he should go home. It is like telling those 6M voters to go to hell. Ruto will get at least 3M in 2022. BBI has proposed an office for the leader of opposition funded by the taxpayer. The millions who vote for the runner-up should feel their voice was heard.

Hillary Clinton got more votes than Trump but she obeyed the constitution went home and doesn't disturb anyone. Baba should do the same, the 6m can vote otherwise in subsequent elections. We need to take a loss as an opportunity to reevaluate and realign. Its not a right to be elected, its the choice of the people to elect or not to

And the elected government is supposed to serve all Kenyans and not just those who elected the winner

Of course

Damn You Guys Are On Fire.

Wazua Sitoki Ng'u

Nground iko aje huko kwa Governor Waiguru?

Nground is busy harvesting rice and all the hullabaloo involved.

Once the crop is out of the field, Nground will revisit.

Otherwise, keyboard warriors and mblogas are busy doing their thing depending on the Frenemy paymistress.

@aemathenge we received our rice consignment from Mwea yesterday for our family food store. We had it for dinner last night, it is good. Although a bit still "wet"... I guess coz it is fresh from farm.
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tycho
#102 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 11:44:17 AM
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murchr wrote:
Did you hear Kalonzo say that PM post is matharau because it doesn't have more money than the local parliamentarians? I cry for Wanjiku


Wanjiku might be worse off when the PM is a volunteer who can either be fired by the President...

On the other hand the suggestion of a volunteer PM who is voted in by "an absolute majority" is an indication of the intense political maneuvers that are likely to happen once we pitisha it.
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Taurrus
#103 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 1:31:06 PM
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Someone with charisma start a punguza mzingo NOW! This nonsense will stop immediately! NOTHING FOR KENYA IN THIS
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Amores
#104 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 2:40:51 PM
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murchr wrote:
Did you hear Kalonzo say that PM post is matharau because it doesn't have more money than the local parliamentarians? I cry for Wanjiku


I saw this in the paper and i am like what's the actual F$##!!???
I am happy
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Amores
#105 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 2:46:56 PM
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Taurrus wrote:
I believe the whole thing was set to trap Ruto to one side and crash him, it has failed flat! That MC Somali even tried hard to provoke,Murkomen almost fell in the trap, but he came out good and the opponent camp was totally confused!


I have just seen his tweet. He will for sure not fall into trap of us vs them. I am political novice and I could tell this is just meant to trap him. I saw Wanga and her ilk breathing fire talking about a referendum. You know these guys wamekula wakashiba......they don't care as long as it gets them the power they want !

At the moment, there is little appetite for a referendum. Lets see.
I am happy
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Thitifini
#106 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 3:49:01 PM
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Amores wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
I believe the whole thing was set to trap Ruto to one side and crash him, it has failed flat! That MC Somali even tried hard to provoke,Murkomen almost fell in the trap, but he came out good and the opponent camp was totally confused!


I have just seen his tweet. He will for sure not fall into trap of us vs them. I am political novice and I could tell this is just meant to trap him. I saw Wanga and her ilk breathing fire talking about a referendum. You know these guys wamekula wakashiba......they don't care as long as it gets them the power they want !

At the moment, there is little appetite for a referendum. Lets see.


I have been checking article 255 and I do not see any requirement foe a constitutional referendum. Unless KEs want to do it for the sake of it.

60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
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Thitifini
#107 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 3:50:54 PM
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Posts: 681
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Amores wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
I believe the whole thing was set to trap Ruto to one side and crash him, it has failed flat! That MC Somali even tried hard to provoke,Murkomen almost fell in the trap, but he came out good and the opponent camp was totally confused!


I have just seen his tweet. He will for sure not fall into trap of us vs them. I am political novice and I could tell this is just meant to trap him. I saw Wanga and her ilk breathing fire talking about a referendum. You know these guys wamekula wakashiba......they don't care as long as it gets them the power they want !

At the moment, there is little appetite for a referendum. Lets see.


I have been checking article 255 and I do not see any requirement foe a constitutional referendum. Unless KEs want to do it for the sake of it.

60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
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Fyatu
#108 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 4:58:12 PM
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Is it true that Sen. Haji and team spent 10 billion to come up with BBI report? Where are the facts about BBI budget?

On the fight against corruption, my opinion is to formulate a law to determine the length of cases just as there are timelines for presidential petitions.

For instance parliament/committee of experts can set the timeline for corruption cases to three months in which the suspect/culprit is either declared guilty or not guilty. It is not enough to set up special courts....hata mukora Maraga when being sworn-in to office promised to set up special courts for corruption but up until today it is zero...kumbe it was hot air

In other jurisdictions like some federal states in the USA, criminal cases are heard and concluded within a set timeline in the constitution.

Hatuwezi endelea stylo hi hii as far as corruption is concerned. CJ Maraga should jail someone before July 2020.

Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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gk
#109 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 5:26:02 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Is it true that Sen. Haji and team spent 10 billion to come up with BBI report? Where are the facts about BBI budget?

On the fight against corruption, my opinion is to formulate a law to determine the length of cases just as there are timelines for presidential petitions.

For instance parliament/committee of experts can set the timeline for corruption cases to three months in which the suspect/culprit is either declared guilty or not guilty. It is not enough to set up special courts....hata mukora Maraga when being sworn-in to office promised to set up special courts for corruption but up until today it is zero...kumbe it was hot air

In other jurisdictions like some federal states in the USA, criminal cases are heard and concluded within a set timeline in the constitution.

Hatuwezi endelea stylo hi hii as far as corruption is concerned. CJ Maraga should jail someone before July 2020.




10b? Some lies should be easy to see through. ..
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kaka2za
#110 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 5:46:32 PM
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gk wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
Is it true that Sen. Haji and team spent 10 billion to come up with BBI report? Where are the facts about BBI budget?

On the fight against corruption, my opinion is to formulate a law to determine the length of cases just as there are timelines for presidential petitions.

For instance parliament/committee of experts can set the timeline for corruption cases to three months in which the suspect/culprit is either declared guilty or not guilty. It is not enough to set up special courts....hata mukora Maraga when being sworn-in to office promised to set up special courts for corruption but up until today it is zero...kumbe it was hot air

In other jurisdictions like some federal states in the USA, criminal cases are heard and concluded within a set timeline in the constitution.

Hatuwezi endelea stylo hi hii as far as corruption is concerned. CJ Maraga should jail someone before July 2020.




10b? Some lies should be easy to see through. ..


What do you expect if your source is Miguna Miguna?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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