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Cde Monomotapa		#101 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2016 2:55:43 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964		mlennyma wrote: Cde Monomotapa wrote: Spikes wrote: kayhara wrote: Are you attempting to rally this crap? The information is provided so that one avoids setting their own questions and answers and failing an exam. Public relations exercise Back in the day we'd say 'to avoid wet dreams' and make an informed decision. We are beyond that now, right?
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kayhara		#102 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2016 3:54:28 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059		Cde Monomotapa wrote: mlennyma wrote: Cde Monomotapa wrote: Spikes wrote: kayhara wrote: Are you attempting to rally this crap? The information is provided so that one avoids setting their own questions and answers and failing an exam. Public relations exercise Back in the day we'd say 'to avoid wet dreams' and make an informed decision. We are beyond that now, right? Naah this is just shared info, surely a good investor takes the info then decides waht to do, but please don't buy this thing will be down for a couple of years if not forever. To Each His Own
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Kusadikika		#103 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2016 6:43:30 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,721		kayhara wrote: Cde Monomotapa wrote: mlennyma wrote: Cde Monomotapa wrote: Spikes wrote: kayhara wrote: Are you attempting to rally this crap? The information is provided so that one avoids setting their own questions and answers and failing an exam. Public relations exercise Back in the day we'd say 'to avoid wet dreams' and make an informed decision. We are beyond that now, right? Naah this is just shared info, surely a good investor takes the info then decides waht to do, but please don't buy this thing will be down for a couple of years if not forever. Danganya toto jinga. The only solution is to create 8 billion shares of one shilling each and give them to the bond holders in which case all current shareholders end up with nothing.
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mlennyma		#104 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2016 9:47:27 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,194 Location: nairobi		Kusadikika wrote: kayhara wrote: Cde Monomotapa wrote: mlennyma wrote: Cde Monomotapa wrote: Spikes wrote: kayhara wrote: Are you attempting to rally this crap? The information is provided so that one avoids setting their own questions and answers and failing an exam. Public relations exercise Back in the day we'd say 'to avoid wet dreams' and make an informed decision. We are beyond that now, right? Naah this is just shared info, surely a good investor takes the info then decides waht to do, but please don't buy this thing will be down for a couple of years if not forever. Danganya toto jinga. The only solution is to create 8 billion shares of one shilling each and give them to the bond holders in which case all current shareholders end up with nothing. bond holders want only one thing money and money thats what they gave out. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Gatheuzi		#105 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2016 9:11:20 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994		I smell a bailout in the works. Using Jaidi's propaganda and the whole crap that it is a pioneer home grown company, they will send a team to GOK and secure a soft loan or a guarantee for that matter. #ThiIsKenya Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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sparkly		#106 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:56:59 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi		Gatheuzi wrote: I smell a bailout in the works. Using Jaidi's propaganda and the whole crap that it is a pioneer home grown company, they will send a team to GOK and secure a soft loan or a guarantee for that matter. #ThiIsKenya Really? Uhuru Gov to bail out a Kibaki men private firm? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Spikes		#107 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:01:41 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		sparkly wrote: Gatheuzi wrote: I smell a bailout in the works. Using Jaidi's propaganda and the whole crap that it is a pioneer home grown company, they will send a team to GOK and secure a soft loan or a guarantee for that matter. #ThiIsKenya Really? Uhuru Gov to bail out a Kibaki men private firm? Bailing out a private crap is tantamount to modern day corruption. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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VituVingiSana		#108 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:08:11 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi		Spikes wrote: sparkly wrote: Gatheuzi wrote: I smell a bailout in the works. Using Jaidi's propaganda and the whole crap that it is a pioneer home grown company, they will send a team to GOK and secure a soft loan or a guarantee for that matter. #ThiIsKenya Really? Uhuru Gov to bail out a Kibaki men private firm? Bailing out a private crap is tantamount to modern day corruption. As is bailing out quasi-GoK firms e.g. KQ, Uchumi and Mumias. When one looks at the ROI on these firms... it doesn't even break-even at T-Bill rates let alone what's paid on long-term bonds. Basically, the taxpayer is subsidizing these firms! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Sober		#109 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2016 12:38:06 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604		Spikes wrote: sparkly wrote: Gatheuzi wrote: I smell a bailout in the works. Using Jaidi's propaganda and the whole crap that it is a pioneer home grown company, they will send a team to GOK and secure a soft loan or a guarantee for that matter. #ThiIsKenya Really? Uhuru Gov to bail out a Kibaki men private firm? Bailing out a private crap is tantamount to modern day corruption. The best bailout GoK can offer you are the construction deals so that you can straighten your cashflows as you deliver the project. But sasa kama Civicon(the construction subsidiary they bought)cannot help because majority of the projects were in the oil based region in Kenya(read Turkana) how else do you expect the gava to saidia. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Gatheuzi		#110 Posted : Tuesday, March 08, 2016 6:58:17 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994		Trancentury at risk of default: says regulator Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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