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washiku
#101 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:04:34 PM
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harrydre wrote:
I say close Daadab and send all those kebabs back to Somalia. Close and man that border all the way Mandera to Lamu. Both aerial and ground. What's so hard with that Mr. President? Issue some executive order!!!


Exactly. That is it. Those guys that are in somali should come back and camp at NE.

But instead of that...

Quote:
Mr Lenku is among 10 Cabinet secretaries nominated by their respective ministries to receive awards from President Uhuru Kenyatta on Jamhuri Day this year.


Yani, out of the 18 CSs, Ole Lenku has done better that about 8 of them.Sad Sad
alma
#102 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:06:39 PM
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washiku wrote:
harrydre wrote:
I say close Daadab and send all those kebabs back to Somalia. Close and man that border all the way Mandera to Lamu. Both aerial and ground. What's so hard with that Mr. President? Issue some executive order!!!


Exactly. That is it. Those guys that are in somali should come back and camp at NE.

But instead of that...

Quote:
Mr Lenku is among 10 Cabinet secretaries nominated by their respective ministries to receive awards from President Uhuru Kenyatta on Jamhuri Day this year.


Yani, out of the 18 CSs, Ole Lenku has done better that about 8 of them.Sad Sad


Why should we move from that country. Didn't you just see the gov't statement clarifying that we were attacked by heavily armed bandits?
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
guru267
#103 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:07:49 PM
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harrydre wrote:
I say close Daadab and send all those kebabs back to Somalia. Close and man that border all the way Mandera to Lamu. Both aerial and ground. What's so hard with that Mr. President? Issue some executive order!!!


Who said all Shabaab are of Somali origin?
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Wainadi
#104 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:12:02 PM
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washiku wrote:
Maybe all non-muslims should leave that place. The locals must be selling them out. There is no way Alshabaab from Somalia will come and know where non-somalis live, which bus they board, where they work...without the co-operation of the locals. Now that the government has clearly demonstrated it cant protect them, afadhali warudi kwao. Uhuru will send Chief of Staff to plead with them to stay, then a few hours after he leaves, they will be killed.

I think that will work the only 'down kenya' left to be attacked will be administrators and the police.
Its all good.
Kratos
#105 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:12:33 PM
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Lather, rinse, repeat! - ad infinitum

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jaggernaut
#106 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:13:34 PM
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washiku wrote:
Maybe all non-muslims should leave that place. The locals must be selling them out. There is no way Alshabaab from Somalia will come and know where non-somalis live, which bus they board, where they work...without the co-operation of the locals. Now that the government has clearly demonstrated it cant protect them, afadhali warudi kwao. Uhuru will send Chief of Staff to plead with them to stay, then a few hours after he leaves, they will be killed.


Well said. The attackers do not just fall from the sky and commit the atrocities. The locals should tell us who these people are. Also the provincial administration e.g chief, subchief, village elders, OCPD, local police, should give us the info. 20 armed attackers cant move within a community without anyone noticing.
Tokyo
#107 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:14:20 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Sad Time for Kenya to bite the bullet and exit that rough godforsaken country

We can always find a 'non-cowardly' reason for exiting e.g. Financial resource strain, need to deploy soldiers locally for various duties esp in the north and manning our borders etc

You will not solve the issue by sacking Ole Lenku or Kimiyo


We did say that immediately after "invasion". They called me a coward.
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harrydre
#108 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:19:49 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
washiku wrote:
Maybe all non-muslims should leave that place. The locals must be selling them out. There is no way Alshabaab from Somalia will come and know where non-somalis live, which bus they board, where they work...without the co-operation of the locals. Now that the government has clearly demonstrated it cant protect them, afadhali warudi kwao. Uhuru will send Chief of Staff to plead with them to stay, then a few hours after he leaves, they will be killed.


Well said. The attackers do not just fall from the sky and commit the atrocities. The locals should tell us who these people are. Also the provincial administration e.g chief, subchief, village elders, OCPD, local police, should give us the info. 20 armed attackers cant move within a community without anyone noticing.


And that's why even after relocating the camps, closing the border and manning it. Some local kebaabs like guru should be identified, isolated, kasaranid, and shipped back to Somalia irrespective of what politicians say. They are the ones facilitating arms and information flow to the main killers.
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jaggernaut
#109 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:20:12 PM
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washiku wrote:
harrydre wrote:
I say close Daadab and send all those kebabs back to Somalia. Close and man that border all the way Mandera to Lamu. Both aerial and ground. What's so hard with that Mr. President? Issue some executive order!!!


Exactly. That is it. Those guys that are in somali should come back and camp at NE.


I am of a different opinion. I believe what we should do is annex somalia and it becomes Kenyas 9th province. Then rule somalia from Nairobi. Then 20yrs down the line they can go back to self rule after govt structures have been set up.
urstill1
#110 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:22:05 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/why-president-uhuru-cant-sack-ole-lenku-over-insecurity


The changes are not happening due to political expediency?

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The decision to suspend the changes is said to have been pushed by a key and powerful security official around the President who believes it is “not necessary and helpful”.

According to sources, this is straining the relationship between Uhuru’s TNA and Deputy President William Ruto’s URP, which has been insisting on the changes


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Another senior govern- ment official said that re- moving Lenku is both a political and administra- tive decision that must be weighed carefully


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Enquiries by the Star have established the political backlash that Jubilee expects from removing Lenku is also a key consideration in the matter.

The Maa political class is said to believe that the position belongs to them and they therefore do not see how there can be a CS from another part of the country in the Interior docket.

Talks with the leaders from the area are also said to have stalled after the preferred replacement, Kajiado South MP Joseph Nkaissery, allegedly declined the offer.


Yes, I said it here before and it is for those two admin posts. ODM tried a censor motion and it came to a cropper thanks to threats by the Maasai to decamp from ODM and not even attempt to step into Maasailand during the ODM Okoa Kenya campaigns.

ODM silently withdrew the censure motion.

DO NOT be fooled by their loud posturing.

For short term purposes, the President needs to demand Deputy ‪Ruto‬ nominate 1 ‪Kalenjin‬ and 1 ‪Maasai‬ from ‪URP‬ to act as replacements for ‪‎Kimaiyo‬ and ‪OleLenku‬ respectively as we continue with the mid and long term security solutions.


Now that's what I call stupidity. As long as the appointees are Kalenjin or Maasai then everything is fine!! With this kind of reasoning, we are a long way to go.
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