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Ngong
#201 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 6:45:17 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun ("Surely we belong to Allah and to Him shall we return")

I'm offering condolences to affected families. I pray to God, to lessen their pains and heal them fast.


To save my skull one day l need to cram this one,bring another one!
ecstacy
#202 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 6:53:41 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Quick wins:

1. Replace the CS and IG with competent individuals from their respective communities to retain political stability as you seek performers. Partially done.

2. Introduce a Bill to alter the 2010 Constitution which strips the NIS of abilities to per-emptively act on intel. Draft a code of conduct to handle human rights concerns. National security will however precede all other interests.

3. Relocate the Daadab refugee camp. KDF man all entry and exit to Daadab and accord UNHCR a twelve month working period to ensure this happens.

4. Table the Homeland Security Bill in Parliament for review and adoption. Have Muslim leader representation via MPs in the House sit in an inter-party and denominational committee ahead of this. Move forward with recommendations. Enact heavily punitive laws. Any national joining a foreign force and engaging in acts of war against the state needs to be treated as a foreign combatant and will be subject to military court marshal law.

5. Have new and refresher anti-terror training for all security forces at the front of the fight against terror.

6. Have the Ministry of Immigration and Labour work heavily with NIS and all those foreign nationals from select backgrounds benefiting heavily from state tenders work as state collaborators for intel purposes.

7. Setup more military bases in the Northern Frontier as well as the Coast Province.

8. Enact a policy of collective punishment to individuals or groups benefiting from the proceeds of locals who are recipient of funding for fighting against the state.

9. Engage in economic impetus programs in the NE and Coast areas from devolution and national interests fronted by state friendly politicians from the affected areas.

10. Have KDF removed from the AMISOM control and act as an independent force primarily guided by national interests as was the case in the march to Kismayo. Set up a transitional authority that will oversee handover back to Somalian civilian authorities with a defined timeline of not more than five years for budgetary purposes. Withdrawal is slated for 2016 after election of new Somali government.

11. Amend KDF communications protocol to maximise use of social media for actual and propaganda purposes.

12. Review formal coordination, command and control response to reported threats and incident levels.

13. Introduce monetary value to civilians targeting poor neighborhoods for viable actionable intel.

14. Review recruitment process for NIS officers with a view to ending the practice of hiring huge bulk of children of the well to do whose output is possibly not commensurate to perks received.

15. Increase defense spending as per agreed upon objectives.



Next.
safariant
#203 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:02:11 AM
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Posts: 784
Location: ant hill - red hill
dunkang wrote:


Would someone please do a timeline analysis between terror attacks and ICC appearances. #Just_Asking


And CORD/ODM struggles/scandals.
The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
safariant
#204 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:36:18 AM
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Joined: 9/9/2010
Posts: 784
Location: ant hill - red hill
jokes wrote:
First let me say pole to the families of the ones we have lost. That was unjust.

Secondly i wonder why guys who work and live or have worked or lived in the remote regions of our country are NOT participating in this discussion??

I will not engage in the high octane politics of foreign powers involvement but i will contribute abit as one of the previous residents.

North eastern is a whole different country for those born in Down Kenya.

Citizens of this region refer to funding of public projects as being funded by the "Government of Kenya" or "World food program" etc.

Nurse and clinical officers head hospitals and in-case of serious ailment i advice rush as fast as you can to Nairobi. don't stop on the way.

In this region we have a truly unexploited wildlife a potential tourist haven.

The soil in some regions of mandera is red loam and very fertile.

Fruits grown on river dauwa are exceptionally sweet but are completely rotten-12 hours after harvest due to the heat.

The Somalis in Ethiopia, Mandera, Somalia are one and the same clans and one can go whichever direction they deem fit without being questioned as they are at home.

In this region Clans rule.

In this region you can go a whole 100km or 1 hour without seeing anyone.

Water is truly a precious commodity more valuable than Gold.

The weather is so hot that construction workers work from 5 to 12pm, rest in the tents during the hottest part of the day and then resume from 4 to 7pm.
At night they sleep in tents because no one will give them accommodation(we are unclean)or there is no accommodation.

Most of the construction work and heavy work is done by down Kenyans because Somalis are muscularly weak primarily due to lack of physical activity. most cannot even be able to lift a bus Tyre. This work is left to us due to our physical strength. Maybe this might explain the punda thing and the slavery.

Slaves (our forefathers were enslaved passed through this region to kismayu or other ports to Saudi Arabia. Evidence of this exists in mandera and other places they look like an ochieng, kamau or rono ) they are called tribeless. They are low class, lost and very poor.

From Garrissa to Mandera; roads as we know them; either as murrum, dirt,leave alone tarmac do not exist. Especially on the Lafey arabia road.

It takes approximately 2 to 3 days to travel from mandera to Nairobi with a brief rest over in wajir where a bed can be provided at a fee.

During the rainy season it can take approximately 5 days.

Most civil servants are sent there because they have no God father, money to pay their way out,or have disciplinary cases. its primarily a form of punishment.
This group forms a very cohesive group and have a grievous feeling of being abandoned. They can do anything to help each other to survive.

If you are a young man used to alcohol and women then you are doomed if you are posted to guard a remote section where the only person who can talk to you is the chief and the rest see you as a donkey. You cant talk to the women, drink beer or have a decent conversation in kiswahili.

A one way trip from mandera to Nairobi used to cost 2500/= during my time there.
For a cop a trip maybe to visit his family in western could wipe out his whole net salary of 10,000/= after deductions and most opted to send the money rather than make this useless trip.

Hence "animals" from Ethiopia and Somalia" come into play-Aid's.

This is a place as a down Kenyan you cannot do business with Somalis. first a Somali will buy from his family, then clan, then a fellow Somali, then a Muslim then lastly you.

This is where it get interesting; due to the isolation and financial difficulties the cops in this region actively engage in any means to earn an extra living. Examples abound;
-Kupitisha "mbuzi" (illegals) for a small fee,
-Contraband,
-Smuggled goods (a packet of cigarettes e.g sportsman used to cost 30/= sugar 30/= a kilo) etc.

During the off-days the cops i.e APs, normal cops, anti stock name it meet at Border point one. where after drinking stuff provided by baite go at each other like a scene from a western movie. chairs, bottles and all in a bid to vent their frustration.

and we want security. smile






That was enlightening. Thanks jokes.
The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
safariant
#205 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:42:39 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 9/9/2010
Posts: 784
Location: ant hill - red hill
AlphDoti wrote:
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun ("Surely we belong to Allah and to Him shall we return")

I'm offering condolences to affected families. I pray to God, to lessen their pains and heal them fast.


You need to teach us kafirs these things/chants. They may come in handy one day.
The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
Swenani
#206 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:08:35 AM
Rank: User


Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
safariant wrote:
jokes wrote:
First let me say pole to the families of the ones we have lost. That was unjust.

Secondly i wonder why guys who work and live or have worked or lived in the remote regions of our country are NOT participating in this discussion??

I will not engage in the high octane politics of foreign powers involvement but i will contribute abit as one of the previous residents.

North eastern is a whole different country for those born in Down Kenya.

Citizens of this region refer to funding of public projects as being funded by the "Government of Kenya" or "World food program" etc.

Nurse and clinical officers head hospitals and in-case of serious ailment i advice rush as fast as you can to Nairobi. don't stop on the way.

In this region we have a truly unexploited wildlife a potential tourist haven.

The soil in some regions of mandera is red loam and very fertile.

Fruits grown on river dauwa are exceptionally sweet but are completely rotten-12 hours after harvest due to the heat.

The Somalis in Ethiopia, Mandera, Somalia are one and the same clans and one can go whichever direction they deem fit without being questioned as they are at home.

In this region Clans rule.

In this region you can go a whole 100km or 1 hour without seeing anyone.

Water is truly a precious commodity more valuable than Gold.

The weather is so hot that construction workers work from 5 to 12pm, rest in the tents during the hottest part of the day and then resume from 4 to 7pm.
At night they sleep in tents because no one will give them accommodation(we are unclean)or there is no accommodation.

Most of the construction work and heavy work is done by down Kenyans because Somalis are muscularly weak primarily due to lack of physical activity. most cannot even be able to lift a bus Tyre. This work is left to us due to our physical strength. Maybe this might explain the punda thing and the slavery.

Slaves (our forefathers were enslaved passed through this region to kismayu or other ports to Saudi Arabia. Evidence of this exists in mandera and other places they look like an ochieng, kamau or rono ) they are called tribeless. They are low class, lost and very poor.

From Garrissa to Mandera; roads as we know them; either as murrum, dirt,leave alone tarmac do not exist. Especially on the Lafey arabia road.

It takes approximately 2 to 3 days to travel from mandera to Nairobi with a brief rest over in wajir where a bed can be provided at a fee.

During the rainy season it can take approximately 5 days.

Most civil servants are sent there because they have no God father, money to pay their way out,or have disciplinary cases. its primarily a form of punishment.
This group forms a very cohesive group and have a grievous feeling of being abandoned. They can do anything to help each other to survive.

If you are a young man used to alcohol and women then you are doomed if you are posted to guard a remote section where the only person who can talk to you is the chief and the rest see you as a donkey. You cant talk to the women, drink beer or have a decent conversation in kiswahili.

A one way trip from mandera to Nairobi used to cost 2500/= during my time there.
For a cop a trip maybe to visit his family in western could wipe out his whole net salary of 10,000/= after deductions and most opted to send the money rather than make this useless trip.

Hence "animals" from Ethiopia and Somalia" come into play-Aid's.

This is a place as a down Kenyan you cannot do business with Somalis. first a Somali will buy from his family, then clan, then a fellow Somali, then a Muslim then lastly you.

This is where it get interesting; due to the isolation and financial difficulties the cops in this region actively engage in any means to earn an extra living. Examples abound;
-Kupitisha "mbuzi" (illegals) for a small fee,
-Contraband,
-Smuggled goods (a packet of cigarettes e.g sportsman used to cost 30/= sugar 30/= a kilo) etc.

During the off-days the cops i.e APs, normal cops, anti stock name it meet at Border point one. where after drinking stuff provided by baite go at each other like a scene from a western movie. chairs, bottles and all in a bid to vent their frustration.

and we want security. smile






That was a joke. Thanks jokes.


smile smile smile smile
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Tokyo
#207 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:07:20 AM
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Security starts with you and me. Apparently 36 deceased men were warned of impending attacks.
work to prosper
Kaigangio
#208 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:13:17 PM
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Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
safariant wrote:
jokes wrote:
First let me say pole to the families of the ones we have lost. That was unjust.

Secondly i wonder why guys who work and live or have worked or lived in the remote regions of our country are NOT participating in this discussion??

I will not engage in the high octane politics of foreign powers involvement but i will contribute abit as one of the previous residents.

North eastern is a whole different country for those born in Down Kenya. It would have been more proper to say Down Kenya is a different country from NE for those who were born and reside in NE. Down Kenya would not appreciate that fact since they see Mandera on the map, but Mandera people see it on the ground..

Citizens of this region refer to funding of public projects as being funded by the "Government of Kenya" or "World food program" etc.

Nurse and clinical officers head hospitals and in-case of serious ailment i advice rush as fast as you can to Nairobi. don't stop on the way.

In this region we have a truly unexploited wildlife a potential tourist haven. And also a very superb four wheel driving or off road driving terrain and space...

The soil in some regions of mandera is red loam and very fertile. Especially along the river dauwa. The only problem here is that the locals don't do any farming worth talking about...I remember crossing the river over to the other side (Ethiopian) and believe me there was a lot of serious farming activity...not by the somalis but the oromo

Fruits grown on river dauwa are exceptionally sweet but are completely rotten-12 hours after harvest due to the heat.

The Somalis in Ethiopia, Mandera, Somalia are one and the same clans and one can go whichever direction they deem fit without being questioned as they are at home.

In this region Clans rule.

In this region you can go a whole 100km or 1 hour without seeing anyone.

Water is truly a precious commodity more valuable than Gold. And these fellows are always fighting for it. Most interesting, the water from the tap is just like the water from a pod outside...very dirty and not treated...The first time I took a shower with it, i felt more dirtier than I was before the shower.

The weather is so hot that construction workers work from 5 to 12pm, rest in the tents during the hottest part of the day and then resume from 4 to 7pm.

At night they sleep in tents because no one will give them accommodation(we are unclean)or there is no accommodation. But even sleeping in those small rooms without a fan (let alone an A/C) is torture until you get used to it.

Most of the construction work and heavy work is done by down Kenyans because Somalis are muscularly weak primarily due to lack of physical activity. most cannot even be able to lift a bus Tyre. This work is left to us due to our physical strength. Maybe this might explain the punda thing and the slavery. Actually Somali people think Nywele Ngumu (Madhu madhu as down kenya people are commonly known) are inferior.

Slaves (our forefathers were enslaved passed through this region to kismayu or other ports to Saudi Arabia. Evidence of this exists in mandera and other places they look like an ochieng, kamau or rono ) they are called tribeless. They are low class, lost and very poor.

From Garrissa to Mandera; roads as we know them; either as murrum, dirt,leave alone tarmac do not exist. Especially on the Lafey arabia road.

It takes approximately 2 to 3 days to travel from mandera to Nairobi with a brief rest over in wajir where a bed can be provided at a fee.

During the rainy season it can take approximately 5 days. For those who use the plane, they are unreliable. You may spend a whole three weeks or a month waiting for a plane that dropped you in Mandera (that is if you are lucky). Sometimes they operate like mathrees. If a plane came carrying some imams or kadhis or some vip from Saudi, Kuwait, UEA or Qatar, if you have the money, you pay a broker who then makes an arrangement with the captain.

Most civil servants are sent there because they have no God father, money to pay their way out,or have disciplinary cases. its primarily a form of punishment.
This group forms a very cohesive group and have a grievous feeling of being abandoned. They can do anything to help each other to survive.

If you are a young man used to alcohol and women then you are doomed if you are posted to guard a remote section where the only person who can talk to you is the chief and the rest see you as a donkey. You cant talk to the women, drink beer or have a decent conversation in kiswahili. Also if by any chance you entered into a relationship with a somali woman and had sex with her, immediately pack your belongings and start your journey on foot...otherwise you are dead meat.

A one way trip from mandera to Nairobi used to cost 2500/= during my time there.
For a cop a trip maybe to visit his family in western could wipe out his whole net salary of 10,000/= after deductions and most opted to send the money rather than make this useless trip.

Hence "animals" from Ethiopia and Somalia" come into play-Aid's.

This is a place as a down Kenyan you cannot do business with Somalis. first a Somali will buy from his family, then clan, then a fellow Somali, then a Muslim then lastly you. Believe me even buying a plot, they would not sell to you no matter how much you are offering unless you are one of their own.

This is where it get interesting; due to the isolation and financial difficulties the cops in this region actively engage in any means to earn an extra living. Examples abound;
-Kupitisha "mbuzi" (illegals) for a small fee,
-Contraband,
-Smuggled goods (a packet of cigarettes e.g sportsman used to cost 30/= sugar 30/= a kilo) etc.
...ARE YOU READING THIS MR PRESIDENT?

During the off-days the cops i.e APs, normal cops, anti stock name it meet at Border point one. where after drinking stuff provided by baite go at each other like a scene from a western movie. chairs, bottles and all in a bid to vent their frustration.

and we want security. smile






That was enlightening. Thanks jokes.

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Muriel
#209 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:32:51 PM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
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safariant wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun ("Surely we belong to Allah and to Him shall we return")

I'm offering condolences to affected families. I pray to God, to lessen their pains and heal them fast.


You need to teach us kafirs these things/chants. They may come in handy one day.


Disgrace!

Ngong
#210 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:33:52 PM
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Joined: 11/17/2012
Posts: 1,461
Location: Ngong Forest
Muriel wrote:
safariant wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun ("Surely we belong to Allah and to Him shall we return")

I'm offering condolences to affected families. I pray to God, to lessen their pains and heal them fast.


You need to teach us kafirs these things/chants. They may come in handy one day.


Disgrace!



No disgrace madam,ni survival!
alma
#211 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:38:30 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/20/2007
Posts: 4,432
Tokyo wrote:
Security starts with you and me. Apparently 36 deceased men were warned of impending attacks.



By this time you should be very wary of your sources of information. ehem.




Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
jokes
#212 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:53:57 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2008
Posts: 323
Kaigangio wrote:
safariant wrote:
jokes wrote:
First let me say pole to the families of the ones we have lost. That was unjust.

Secondly i wonder why guys who work and live or have worked or lived in the remote regions of our country are NOT participating in this discussion??

I will not engage in the high octane politics of foreign powers involvement but i will contribute abit as one of the previous residents.

North eastern is a whole different country for those born in Down Kenya. It would have been more proper to say Down Kenya is a different country from NE for those who were born and reside in NE. Down Kenya would not appreciate that fact since they see Mandera on the map, but Mandera people see it on the ground..

Citizens of this region refer to funding of public projects as being funded by the "Government of Kenya" or "World food program" etc.

Nurse and clinical officers head hospitals and in-case of serious ailment i advice rush as fast as you can to Nairobi. don't stop on the way.

In this region we have a truly unexploited wildlife a potential tourist haven. And also a very superb four wheel driving or off road driving terrain and space...

The soil in some regions of mandera is red loam and very fertile. Especially along the river dauwa. The only problem here is that the locals don't do any farming worth talking about...I remember crossing the river over to the other side (Ethiopian) and believe me there was a lot of serious farming activity...not by the somalis but the oromo

Fruits grown on river dauwa are exceptionally sweet but are completely rotten-12 hours after harvest due to the heat.

The Somalis in Ethiopia, Mandera, Somalia are one and the same clans and one can go whichever direction they deem fit without being questioned as they are at home.

In this region Clans rule.

In this region you can go a whole 100km or 1 hour without seeing anyone.

Water is truly a precious commodity more valuable than Gold. And these fellows are always fighting for it. Most interesting, the water from the tap is just like the water from a pod outside...very dirty and not treated...The first time I took a shower with it, i felt more dirtier than I was before the shower.

The weather is so hot that construction workers work from 5 to 12pm, rest in the tents during the hottest part of the day and then resume from 4 to 7pm.

At night they sleep in tents because no one will give them accommodation(we are unclean)or there is no accommodation. But even sleeping in those small rooms without a fan (let alone an A/C) is torture until you get used to it.

Most of the construction work and heavy work is done by down Kenyans because Somalis are muscularly weak primarily due to lack of physical activity. most cannot even be able to lift a bus Tyre. This work is left to us due to our physical strength. Maybe this might explain the punda thing and the slavery. Actually Somali people think Nywele Ngumu (Madhu madhu as down kenya people are commonly known) are inferior.

Slaves (our forefathers were enslaved passed through this region to kismayu or other ports to Saudi Arabia. Evidence of this exists in mandera and other places they look like an ochieng, kamau or rono ) they are called tribeless. They are low class, lost and very poor.

From Garrissa to Mandera; roads as we know them; either as murrum, dirt,leave alone tarmac do not exist. Especially on the Lafey arabia road.

It takes approximately 2 to 3 days to travel from mandera to Nairobi with a brief rest over in wajir where a bed can be provided at a fee.

During the rainy season it can take approximately 5 days. For those who use the plane, they are unreliable. You may spend a whole three weeks or a month waiting for a plane that dropped you in Mandera (that is if you are lucky). Sometimes they operate like mathrees. If a plane came carrying some imams or kadhis or some vip from Saudi, Kuwait, UEA or Qatar, if you have the money, you pay a broker who then makes an arrangement with the captain.

Most civil servants are sent there because they have no God father, money to pay their way out,or have disciplinary cases. its primarily a form of punishment.
This group forms a very cohesive group and have a grievous feeling of being abandoned. They can do anything to help each other to survive.

If you are a young man used to alcohol and women then you are doomed if you are posted to guard a remote section where the only person who can talk to you is the chief and the rest see you as a donkey. You cant talk to the women, drink beer or have a decent conversation in kiswahili. Also if by any chance you entered into a relationship with a somali woman and had sex with her, immediately pack your belongings and start your journey on foot...otherwise you are dead meat.

A one way trip from mandera to Nairobi used to cost 2500/= during my time there.
For a cop a trip maybe to visit his family in western could wipe out his whole net salary of 10,000/= after deductions and most opted to send the money rather than make this useless trip.

Hence "animals" from Ethiopia and Somalia" come into play-Aid's.

This is a place as a down Kenyan you cannot do business with Somalis. first a Somali will buy from his family, then clan, then a fellow Somali, then a Muslim then lastly you. Believe me even buying a plot, they would not sell to you no matter how much you are offering unless you are one of their own.

This is where it get interesting; due to the isolation and financial difficulties the cops in this region actively engage in any means to earn an extra living. Examples abound;
-Kupitisha "mbuzi" (illegals) for a small fee,
-Contraband,
-Smuggled goods (a packet of cigarettes e.g sportsman used to cost 30/= sugar 30/= a kilo) etc.
...ARE YOU READING THIS MR PRESIDENT?

During the off-days the cops i.e APs, normal cops, anti stock name it meet at Border point one. where after drinking stuff provided by baite go at each other like a scene from a western movie. chairs, bottles and all in a bid to vent their frustration.

and we want security. smile






That was enlightening. Thanks jokes.



Haaa at last. A fellow traveler.
Boris Boyka
#213 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:19:14 PM
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@jokes spot on at least this is stuff from experience. still 2500/- one way.splitting costs more. actually very costly for those on low pays.as usual if your bus gets stuck..'punda' have to push and repair. lafey road still very vulnerable. its rainng now and roads as usual passable with difficulties. prices of goods vary for natives & down kenyans. @ectacy Applause most of yourpoints are in.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
urstill1
#214 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:31:50 PM
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alma wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Security starts with you and me. Apparently 36 deceased men were warned of impending attacks.



By this time you should be very wary of your sources of information. ehem.






After the 1st Mandera attack, didn't the govt say that people should not move that they'll take care of the matter!! Few hours later he came out lying about 100 deaths. Ruto is playing politics with Kenyans lives. Unfortunately, that's how he got his position, playing with Kenyans lives.
Othelo
#215 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:40:44 PM
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So nowadays the Gava's job will warn you of an impending attack but it is upto you to defend yourself! Okay!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
alma
#216 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:48:55 PM
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Joined: 7/20/2007
Posts: 4,432
Othelo wrote:
So nowadays the Gava's job will warn you of an impending attack but it is upto you to defend yourself! Okay!


That may be the new gov't policy

Tell you to run very fast. After you die, ferry your body to nairobi and say you should have joined nyumba kumi, murume.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Boris Boyka
#217 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 5:04:03 PM
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Othelo wrote:
So nowadays the Gava's job will warn you of an impending attack but it is upto you to defend yourself! Okay!

@Othelo welcome back how has been november.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Euge
#218 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 5:08:33 PM
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jokes wrote:
First let me say pole to the families of the ones we have lost. That was unjust.

Secondly i wonder why guys who work and live or have worked or lived in the remote regions of our country are NOT participating in this discussion??

I will not engage in the high octane politics of foreign powers involvement but i will contribute abit as one of the previous residents.

North eastern is a whole different country for those born in Down Kenya.

Citizens of this region refer to funding of public projects as being funded by the "Government of Kenya" or "World food program" etc.

Nurse and clinical officers head hospitals and in-case of serious ailment i advice rush as fast as you can to Nairobi. don't stop on the way.

In this region we have a truly unexploited wildlife a potential tourist haven.

The soil in some regions of mandera is red loam and very fertile.

Fruits grown on river dauwa are exceptionally sweet but are completely rotten-12 hours after harvest due to the heat.

The Somalis in Ethiopia, Mandera, Somalia are one and the same clans and one can go whichever direction they deem fit without being questioned as they are at home.

In this region Clans rule.

In this region you can go a whole 100km or 1 hour without seeing anyone.

Water is truly a precious commodity more valuable than Gold.

The weather is so hot that construction workers work from 5 to 12pm, rest in the tents during the hottest part of the day and then resume from 4 to 7pm.
At night they sleep in tents because no one will give them accommodation(we are unclean)or there is no accommodation.

Most of the construction work and heavy work is done by down Kenyans because Somalis are muscularly weak primarily due to lack of physical activity. most cannot even be able to lift a bus Tyre. This work is left to us due to our physical strength. Maybe this might explain the punda thing and the slavery.

Slaves (our forefathers were enslaved passed through this region to kismayu or other ports to Saudi Arabia. Evidence of this exists in mandera and other places they look like an ochieng, kamau or rono ) they are called tribeless. They are low class, lost and very poor.

From Garrissa to Mandera; roads as we know them; either as murrum, dirt,leave alone tarmac do not exist. Especially on the Lafey arabia road.

It takes approximately 2 to 3 days to travel from mandera to Nairobi with a brief rest over in wajir where a bed can be provided at a fee.

During the rainy season it can take approximately 5 days.

Most civil servants are sent there because they have no God father, money to pay their way out,or have disciplinary cases. its primarily a form of punishment.
This group forms a very cohesive group and have a grievous feeling of being abandoned. They can do anything to help each other to survive.

If you are a young man used to alcohol and women then you are doomed if you are posted to guard a remote section where the only person who can talk to you is the chief and the rest see you as a donkey. You cant talk to the women, drink beer or have a decent conversation in kiswahili.

A one way trip from mandera to Nairobi used to cost 2500/= during my time there.
For a cop a trip maybe to visit his family in western could wipe out his whole net salary of 10,000/= after deductions and most opted to send the money rather than make this useless trip.

Hence "animals" from Ethiopia and Somalia" come into play-Aid's.

This is a place as a down Kenyan you cannot do business with Somalis. first a Somali will buy from his family, then clan, then a fellow Somali, then a Muslim then lastly you.

This is where it get interesting; due to the isolation and financial difficulties the cops in this region actively engage in any means to earn an extra living. Examples abound;
-Kupitisha "mbuzi" (illegals) for a small fee,
-Contraband,
-Smuggled goods (a packet of cigarettes e.g sportsman used to cost 30/= sugar 30/= a kilo) etc.

During the off-days the cops i.e APs, normal cops, anti stock name it meet at Border point one. where after drinking stuff provided by baite go at each other like a scene from a western movie. chairs, bottles and all in a bid to vent their frustration.

and we want security. smile

Its common for people to sleep outside in those areas. Was shocked when I saw that for the first time.



Lord, thank you!
kyt
#219 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 7:24:52 PM
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Euge why are quoting a post and you write nothing? Whats the point?
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#220 Posted : Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:42:04 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Othelo wrote:
So nowadays the Gava's job will warn you of an impending attack but it is upto you to defend yourself! Okay!

@Othelo welcome back how has been november.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Othelo has been mumu humu masquerading.
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