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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked  Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! County budget comes from audited revenues a function of PAC which is run by CORD. The last report they did I think was 2011/2012. What you should be doing is asking them to do their job and politic less. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! I would love to see more money go to the county. for that reason i would vote YES. however, the same counties do not have much track record for development and most of the money is going to people's pockets in form of travel allowances and salaries and entertainment and other miscellaneous expenses. That leaves me wondering if I would trust that much money in these hands..... so, am in dilemma here because this is a catch 22. To leave the money with a wolf or to give it to a hyena...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! County budget comes from audited revenues a function of PAC which is run by CORD. The last report they did I think was 2011/2012. What you should be doing is asking them to do their job and politic less. You don't get it do you? The referendum is to change this so that we have 40% of current collections!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! County budget comes from audited revenues a function of PAC which is run by CORD. The last report they did I think was 2011/2012. What you should be doing is asking them to do their job and politic less. You don't get it do you? The referendum is to change this so that we have 40% of current collections!!! What's the track record with the 15% that is already in use? That's excluding machakos coz those ones are on a league of their own.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! County budget comes from audited revenues a function of PAC which is run by CORD. The last report they did I think was 2011/2012. What you should be doing is asking them to do their job and politic less. You don't get it do you? The referendum is to change this so that we have 40% of current collections!!! I was responding to your 226B since you pretend not to get where it's coming from. Good luck with the change to allocating what is yet to be collected. i.am.back!!!!
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washiku wrote:Today the "committee of experts" met the "evil" IEBC to discuss the referendum... Interesting. That one surprised me, this thing for sure is not about wanjiku! Lakini ........... Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Wendz wrote:McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! County budget comes from audited revenues a function of PAC which is run by CORD. The last report they did I think was 2011/2012. What you should be doing is asking them to do their job and politic less. You don't get it do you? The referendum is to change this so that we have 40% of current collections!!! What's the track record with the 15% that is already in use? That's excluding machakos coz those ones are on a league of their own. Prados and foreign trips!! i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Wendz wrote:McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! County budget comes from audited revenues a function of PAC which is run by CORD. The last report they did I think was 2011/2012. What you should be doing is asking them to do their job and politic less. You don't get it do you? The referendum is to change this so that we have 40% of current collections!!! What's the track record with the 15% that is already in use? That's excluding machakos coz those ones are on a league of their own. We need a full report on where the counties currently are, what I know for sure is that something is happening in mashinani that would be happening were it not for devolution!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2011 Posts: 503
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harrydre wrote:Wendz wrote:McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! County budget comes from audited revenues a function of PAC which is run by CORD. The last report they did I think was 2011/2012. What you should be doing is asking them to do their job and politic less. You don't get it do you? The referendum is to change this so that we have 40% of current collections!!! What's the track record with the 15% that is already in use? That's excluding machakos coz those ones are on a league of their own. Prados and foreign trips!! I say we should also get the track record of the 85% for comparison purposes. For the records counties have been getting over 32% of audited reports since they began working. That not withstanding pegging revenue due to counties at 15% of audited collections setting the bar too low Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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McReggae wrote:harrydre wrote:McReggae wrote:limanika wrote:Shak wrote:Now that Uhuru has signed the bill where devolved funds will be at least 43pc of national revenue, aren't Cords options on the referendum slowly diminishing? Knowing Raila he will now say he meant 40% of government expenditures, I.e. including loans and grants. These people can sink us into bottomless pit if not checked Even without the loans/grants: Ksh. 226 B for county governments and Ksh. 799 B for national governments can never make a 43%:57% ratio, danganya jinga!!!! County budget comes from audited revenues a function of PAC which is run by CORD. The last report they did I think was 2011/2012. What you should be doing is asking them to do their job and politic less. You don't get it do you? The referendum is to change this so that we have 40% of current collections!!! So is disbursements done b4 or after collection? And the remaining 60% is it spent in the air? Any part of Kenya not in some county!? Surely 4 someone to bring referendum on such a matter and expect government to vigorously campaign NO is taking dumbness to a whole new level!
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