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Playing the market 2014 - 2016
VituVingiSana
#101 Posted : Friday, September 19, 2014 9:18:21 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ is looking up for @obiero. All the best. I am staying out. I'd rather buy KK at 8.50 then KQ at 10 and that is what makes a market!

hii kenya airways bado hata haijaanza kuvuma.. many will be blindsided by its swift movement to the stratosphere

19 Sep 2014. KK @ 9.80 KQ @ 9.50 ... @obiero is a tough chap hanging in there.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#102 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:00:49 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ is looking up for @obiero. All the best. I am staying out. I'd rather buy KK at 8.50 then KQ at 10 and that is what makes a market!

hii kenya airways bado hata haijaanza kuvuma.. many will be blindsided by its swift movement to the stratosphere

19 Sep 2014. KK @ 9.80 KQ @ 9.50 ... @obiero is a tough chap hanging in there.

thanks for the compliment. The days for kq to shine shall come. when i recommended hfck at thirteen bob, few listened.. I recommended centum at thitry six, fewer listened. Coop bank at sixteen..

KQ ABP 4.26
jerry
#103 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:34:02 AM
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What we need is a thread 'KK will make you rich" and pple will take it seriously.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
a_abbass
#104 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 11:45:13 AM
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Joined: 9/13/2014
Posts: 10
Location: Kenya
KNRE is an underdog, the counter has a strong balance sheet and steadily growing earnings that ensures a steady dividend stream.
One of the cheapest counters on the bourse on a P/E basis and a p/b value that is not too scary. Its a decent counter to consider.
Maybe a little too late to get into ICDC, EQTY and HFCK as valuations are now beginning to look stretched. Especially as dividends will likely remain muted due to the new CBK prudential guidelines coming in Jan 2015.
I think 2015 will be the year for the industrials, financials will likely burn themselves out.
No profession requires more hard work, intelligence, patience, and mental discipline than successful speculation - Robert Rhea
Knight-027
#105 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:53:25 PM
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Joined: 5/13/2014
Posts: 12
What major change do expect to happen in the oil sector in E. Africa that will propel KK to riches? Are they investing in crude refinery?
VituVingiSana
#106 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:44:49 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ is looking up for @obiero. All the best. I am staying out. I'd rather buy KK at 8.50 then KQ at 10 and that is what makes a market!

hii kenya airways bado hata haijaanza kuvuma.. many will be blindsided by its swift movement to the stratosphere

19 Sep 2014. KK @ 9.80 KQ @ 9.50 ... @obiero is a tough chap hanging in there.

thanks for the compliment. The days for kq to shine shall come. when i recommended hfck at thirteen bob, few listened.. I recommended centum at thitry six, fewer listened. Coop bank at sixteen..

1) HFCK was a low PE stock at 13 with aP/B of 1-ish, Coop too [except the P/B...
2) I found Centum at 36 good but not great value nevertheless do-able. The move to 72 caught me unawares.
3) Now as for KQ, there are few redeeming factors at the moment. And they will pay Naikuni a lot of money for his 'retirement' ... Anyway, I will look at it in 2015 but let me look for something else in the meantime.

HFCK, Coop and Centum have OWNER-MANAGERS. Frank Ireri has shares in HFCK. His board [Britam representatives] are invested. Benson Wairegi has shares in Britam which has shares in HFCK. Then we have DJ CK with 25%+ shares in Centum. The management at Centum has profit-sharing based on performance + shares too.

KQ... Does Titus Naikuni have any shares? The entire board [exclude KQ & KLM] have less than 50,000 shares! Do they care about profits or perks?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#107 Posted : Saturday, September 20, 2014 4:57:16 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ is looking up for @obiero. All the best. I am staying out. I'd rather buy KK at 8.50 then KQ at 10 and that is what makes a market!

hii kenya airways bado hata haijaanza kuvuma.. many will be blindsided by its swift movement to the stratosphere

19 Sep 2014. KK @ 9.80 KQ @ 9.50 ... @obiero is a tough chap hanging in there.

thanks for the compliment. The days for kq to shine shall come. when i recommended hfck at thirteen bob, few listened.. I recommended centum at thitry six, fewer listened. Coop bank at sixteen..

1) HFCK was a low PE stock at 13 with aP/B of 1-ish, Coop too [except the P/B...
2) I found Centum at 36 good but not great value nevertheless do-able. The move to 72 caught me unawares.
3) Now as for KQ, there are few redeeming factors at the moment. And they will pay Naikuni a lot of money for his 'retirement' ... Anyway, I will look at it in 2015 but let me look for something else in the meantime.

HFCK, Coop and Centum have OWNER-MANAGERS. Frank Ireri has shares in HFCK. His board [Britam representatives] are invested. Benson Wairegi has shares in Britam which has shares in HFCK. Then we have DJ CK with 25%+ shares in Centum. The management at Centum has profit-sharing based on performance + shares too.

KQ... Does Titus Naikuni have any shares? The entire board [exclude KQ & KLM] have less than 50,000 shares! Do they care about profits or perks?

hii hapana vita.. sijawai ona mtoto anlazimishwa kula sausage.. what do I mean?? i have done my analysis and I am ready to eat the fruits of my labor in the future.. the things KQ and GOK are doing are clearly going to bear fruit. Project Mawingu & Greenfield Terminal respectively. Couple that with a growing middle class that freely jumps into a jet, in much the same way our forefathers frequented a latrine, and u shall see that the sky is the limit!

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#108 Posted : Sunday, September 21, 2014 9:50:25 PM
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Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
@obiero - Respect. Good luck.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
abkon2014
#109 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2014 7:48:30 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2014
Posts: 21
Shares are making people rich quickly!
Ericsson
#110 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2014 9:20:20 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Get rich or die trying
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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