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Co-operative Bank Kenya 2.6bn insider trading scandal
mkate_nusu
#101 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:42:03 AM
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Gathige wrote:
Bachuma Gate wrote:
The truth of the matter is that the MD, Directors and senior staff borrowed from the bank and bought shares BEFORE the IPO. It is a against the law to lend money for purchase of your own shares.

1.The fact is they bought shares before the IPO, before the share split and at different price than the IPO price. The fact that they did this knowing that the bank would be doing an IPO is what is called insider trading.

2. The rest of the staff bought during the IPO. This what you would call ESOP.

If you are a member of a co-op that is a shareholder of the bank, just know that you are the one who was played games otherwise who owns coops? It is you and me.

Ask yourself how came the rest of the staff did not make hundreds of millions yet they were also made to borrow and buy the shares.
The trick was with the share split. Anyone who had one share, was given 100.

This is how it was done

1. Before the IPO allocate each of yourself lots of shares. MD gets say 680,000 shares. OTC price was between shs60 and 80. So he borrows says 50m from the bank and buys the shares. Pls note that the share were acquired before the IPO. They never bought them during the IPO.

2. Carry a share split of 1:100. So he ends up with 68,000,000 shares.

3. AT the IPO with a price of 9.50. The man is already worth 646,000,000.00. At the current price of 18 the man is worth 1.2b.

4. The rest of the staff are made to buy the shares at IPO. So say a staff buys same number of shares as the MD. 680,000 shares. IPO price 9.50. Therefore 680,000*9.50=6.4m. At the current price, the follow is worth 680,000*18=12.2m. I hope the clever guys here can see the connection between the 12.2m and the 1.2b. IT IS THE SHARE SPLIT BEFORE THE IPO.


The same game was played at CIC. Just check their financials and see how many shares the Co-op MD and CIC MD. That is why Co-op Bank has heavily invested in CIC more than other co-ops because of this monkey business.

As for the coffee written-off thing, the evidence is there. IT will come out one day.

The thing about the media not covering the story out of compromise; The former MDs PA knows how he was able to achieve this all along.

And in a clearly choreographed move; Ruto's wife is give 5 million by the bank the other day for her foundation. Basically continue buying protection. And nothing will happen to you. Let people make noise.



@Bachuma Gate, Quite insightful. My coop ( name withheld) made made almost 100m after the listing. The "owners" as u have noted made much more. Hii Kenya ina wenyewe kweli.


Well calculated moves
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Ericsson
#102 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 4:56:38 AM
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Spikes
#103 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:54:57 AM
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Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
Among all Kenyan listed banks,Coop has the second lowest default rate relative to its size.. People should chill



@Obiero people are making money through dubious means kazi yako ni kuwapigia makofi, mbwembwe na vigelegele. Unless you are part of the shafting team I can't trust you! You claim to be trailblazer for insider info. How come you missed an opportunity to prey Wanjiku on coop OTC and after IPO dirty tricks?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Spikes
#104 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:05:02 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
mkate_nusu wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Bachuma Gate wrote:
The truth of the matter is that the MD, Directors and senior staff borrowed from the bank and bought shares BEFORE the IPO. It is a against the law to lend money for purchase of your own shares.

1.The fact is they bought shares before the IPO, before the share split and at different price than the IPO price. The fact that they did this knowing that the bank would be doing an IPO is what is called insider trading.

2. The rest of the staff bought during the IPO. This what you would call ESOP.

If you are a member of a co-op that is a shareholder of the bank, just know that you are the one who was played games otherwise who owns coops? It is you and me.

Ask yourself how came the rest of the staff did not make hundreds of millions yet they were also made to borrow and buy the shares.
The trick was with the share split. Anyone who had one share, was given 100.

This is how it was done

1. Before the IPO allocate each of yourself lots of shares. MD gets say 680,000 shares. OTC price was between shs60 and 80. So he borrows says 50m from the bank and buys the shares. Pls note that the share were acquired before the IPO. They never bought them during the IPO.

2. Carry a share split of 1:100. So he ends up with 68,000,000 shares.

3. AT the IPO with a price of 9.50. The man is already worth 646,000,000.00. At the current price of 18 the man is worth 1.2b.

4. The rest of the staff are made to buy the shares at IPO. So say a staff buys same number of shares as the MD. 680,000 shares. IPO price 9.50. Therefore 680,000*9.50=6.4m. At the current price, the follow is worth 680,000*18=12.2m. I hope the clever guys here can see the connection between the 12.2m and the 1.2b. IT IS THE SHARE SPLIT BEFORE THE IPO.


The same game was played at CIC. Just check their financials and see how many shares the Co-op MD and CIC MD. That is why Co-op Bank has heavily invested in CIC more than other co-ops because of this monkey business.

As for the coffee written-off thing, the evidence is there. IT will come out one day.

The thing about the media not covering the story out of compromise; The former MDs PA knows how he was able to achieve this all along.

And in a clearly choreographed move; Ruto's wife is give 5 million by the bank the other day for her foundation. Basically continue buying protection. And nothing will happen to you. Let people make noise.



@Bachuma Gate, Quite insightful. My coop ( name withheld) made made almost 100m after the listing. The "owners" as u have noted made much more. Hii Kenya ina wenyewe kweli.


Well calculated moves



More than 75% of Kenyan voters don't understand @Bachuma Gate's in depth analysis shedding light on the wolves of NSE now particularly Coop bank. If most Kenyans had this knowledge at the same level as they embrace their cultural values then voting based on issues could have swept Mafisi politicians home.

Shafting continues.....
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
obiero
#105 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:41:10 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:
Among all Kenyan listed banks,Coop has the second lowest default rate relative to its size.. People should chill



@Obiero people are making money through dubious means kazi yako ni kuwapigia makofi, mbwembwe na vigelegele. Unless you are part of the shafting team I can't trust you! You claim to be trailblazer for insider info. How come you missed an opportunity to prey Wanjiku on coop OTC and after IPO dirty tricks?

It is OK to run ahead of the curve.. Older people here will inform you that I bought bulk of my COOP at KES 6 and sold at KES 21.. If others get shafted how am I to blame

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enyands
#106 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:41:48 AM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
Bachuma Gate wrote:
The truth of the matter is that the MD, Directors and senior staff borrowed from the bank and bought shares BEFORE the IPO. It is a against the law to lend money for purchase of your own shares.

1.The fact is they bought shares before the IPO, before the share split and at different price than the IPO price. The fact that they did this knowing that the bank would be doing an IPO is what is called insider trading.

2. The rest of the staff bought during the IPO. This what you would call ESOP.

If you are a member of a co-op that is a shareholder of the bank, just know that you are the one who was played games otherwise who owns coops? It is you and me.

Ask yourself how came the rest of the staff did not make hundreds of millions yet they were also made to borrow and buy the shares.
The trick was with the share split. Anyone who had one share, was given 100.

This is how it was done

1. Before the IPO allocate each of yourself lots of shares. MD gets say 680,000 shares. OTC price was between shs60 and 80. So he borrows says 50m from the bank and buys the shares. Pls note that the share were acquired before the IPO. They never bought them during the IPO.

2. Carry a share split of 1:100. So he ends up with 68,000,000 shares.

3. AT the IPO with a price of 9.50. The man is already worth 646,000,000.00. At the current price of 18 the man is worth 1.2b.

4. The rest of the staff are made to buy the shares at IPO. So say a staff buys same number of shares as the MD. 680,000 shares. IPO price 9.50. Therefore 680,000*9.50=6.4m. At the current price, the follow is worth 680,000*18=12.2m. I hope the clever guys here can see the connection between the 12.2m and the 1.2b. IT IS THE SHARE SPLIT BEFORE THE IPO.


The same game was played at CIC. Just check their financials and see how many shares the Co-op MD and CIC MD. That is why Co-op Bank has heavily invested in CIC more than other co-ops because of this monkey business.

As for the coffee written-off thing, the evidence is there. IT will come out one day.

The thing about the media not covering the story out of compromise; The former MDs PA knows how he was able to achieve this all along.

And in a clearly choreographed move; Ruto's wife is give 5 million by the bank the other day for her foundation. Basically continue buying protection. And nothing will happen to you. Let people make noise.


Most of people fell into your point number 2. They were duped into protecting their own
Bank.loans were given at staff rate of 3-5%depending on if you regularly attend prayers meeting chaired by your know who. ...

The conditions were doctored and tailored to make it be like staff have to support their own bank or else oneself can be transferred to homa bay branch from nairobi.

Now that someone stepped out is when someone realised that their intelligence was at stake because most staff were purchasing ESOP that were being offloaded by the said saved men of God after their X100 gain

For those who belive in heaven ,it's only few who will enter that kingdom .disposing 120,000,000 shares won't guarantee you a place even if you head the prayer meetings.
Spikes
#107 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:26:56 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
enyands wrote:
Bachuma Gate wrote:
The truth of the matter is that the MD, Directors and senior staff borrowed from the bank and bought shares BEFORE the IPO. It is a against the law to lend money for purchase of your own shares.

1.The fact is they bought shares before the IPO, before the share split and at different price than the IPO price. The fact that they did this knowing that the bank would be doing an IPO is what is called insider trading.

2. The rest of the staff bought during the IPO. This what you would call ESOP.

If you are a member of a co-op that is a shareholder of the bank, just know that you are the one who was played games otherwise who owns coops? It is you and me.

Ask yourself how came the rest of the staff did not make hundreds of millions yet they were also made to borrow and buy the shares.
The trick was with the share split. Anyone who had one share, was given 100.

This is how it was done

1. Before the IPO allocate each of yourself lots of shares. MD gets say 680,000 shares. OTC price was between shs60 and 80. So he borrows says 50m from the bank and buys the shares. Pls note that the share were acquired before the IPO. They never bought them during the IPO.

2. Carry a share split of 1:100. So he ends up with 68,000,000 shares.

3. AT the IPO with a price of 9.50. The man is already worth 646,000,000.00. At the current price of 18 the man is worth 1.2b.

4. The rest of the staff are made to buy the shares at IPO. So say a staff buys same number of shares as the MD. 680,000 shares. IPO price 9.50. Therefore 680,000*9.50=6.4m. At the current price, the follow is worth 680,000*18=12.2m. I hope the clever guys here can see the connection between the 12.2m and the 1.2b. IT IS THE SHARE SPLIT BEFORE THE IPO.


The same game was played at CIC. Just check their financials and see how many shares the Co-op MD and CIC MD. That is why Co-op Bank has heavily invested in CIC more than other co-ops because of this monkey business.

As for the coffee written-off thing, the evidence is there. IT will come out one day.

The thing about the media not covering the story out of compromise; The former MDs PA knows how he was able to achieve this all along.

And in a clearly choreographed move; Ruto's wife is give 5 million by the bank the other day for her foundation. Basically continue buying protection. And nothing will happen to you. Let people make noise.


Most of people fell into your point number 2. They were duped into protecting their own
Bank.loans were given at staff rate of 3-5%depending on if you regularly attend prayers meeting chaired by your know who. ...

The conditions were doctored and tailored to make it be like staff have to support their own bank or else oneself can be transferred to homa bay branch from nairobi.

Now that someone stepped out is when someone realised that their intelligence was at stake because most staff were purchasing ESOP that were being offloaded by the said saved men of God after their X100 gain

For those who belive in heaven ,it's only few who will enter that kingdom .disposing 120,000,000 shares won't guarantee you a place even if you head the prayer meetings.





@enyands please explain about prayer meetings. Wazuans want to know the tricks of deception by the wolves of COOP bank aka management and directorship.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
enyands
#108 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:48:19 AM
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Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
Spikes wrote:
enyands wrote:
Bachuma Gate wrote:
The truth of the matter is that the MD, Directors and senior staff borrowed from the bank and bought shares BEFORE the IPO. It is a against the law to lend money for purchase of your own shares.

1.The fact is they bought shares before the IPO, before the share split and at different price than the IPO price. The fact that they did this knowing that the bank would be doing an IPO is what is called insider trading.

2. The rest of the staff bought during the IPO. This what you would call ESOP.

If you are a member of a co-op that is a shareholder of the bank, just know that you are the one who was played games otherwise who owns coops? It is you and me.

Ask yourself how came the rest of the staff did not make hundreds of millions yet they were also made to borrow and buy the shares.
The trick was with the share split. Anyone who had one share, was given 100.

This is how it was done

1. Before the IPO allocate each of yourself lots of shares. MD gets say 680,000 shares. OTC price was between shs60 and 80. So he borrows says 50m from the bank and buys the shares. Pls note that the share were acquired before the IPO. They never bought them during the IPO.

2. Carry a share split of 1:100. So he ends up with 68,000,000 shares.

3. AT the IPO with a price of 9.50. The man is already worth 646,000,000.00. At the current price of 18 the man is worth 1.2b.

4. The rest of the staff are made to buy the shares at IPO. So say a staff buys same number of shares as the MD. 680,000 shares. IPO price 9.50. Therefore 680,000*9.50=6.4m. At the current price, the follow is worth 680,000*18=12.2m. I hope the clever guys here can see the connection between the 12.2m and the 1.2b. IT IS THE SHARE SPLIT BEFORE THE IPO.


The same game was played at CIC. Just check their financials and see how many shares the Co-op MD and CIC MD. That is why Co-op Bank has heavily invested in CIC more than other co-ops because of this monkey business.

As for the coffee written-off thing, the evidence is there. IT will come out one day.

The thing about the media not covering the story out of compromise; The former MDs PA knows how he was able to achieve this all along.

And in a clearly choreographed move; Ruto's wife is give 5 million by the bank the other day for her foundation. Basically continue buying protection. And nothing will happen to you. Let people make noise.


Most of people fell into your point number 2. They were duped into protecting their own
Bank.loans were given at staff rate of 3-5%depending on if you regularly attend prayers meeting chaired by your know who. ...

The conditions were doctored and tailored to make it be like staff have to support their own bank or else oneself can be transferred to homa bay branch from nairobi.

Now that someone stepped out is when someone realised that their intelligence was at stake because most staff were purchasing ESOP that were being offloaded by the said saved men of God after their X100 gain

For those who belive in heaven ,it's only few who will enter that kingdom .disposing 120,000,000 shares won't guarantee you a place even if you head the prayer meetings.





@enyands please explain about prayer meetings. Wazuans want to know the tricks of deception by the wolves of COOP bank aka management and directorship.


Spikes just be careful with people who masquerade as men of God and mix with high profile business deals . I'd rather deal with DJ who you know from word go is shady and is open about it than hypocrites.
Spikes
#109 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2016 10:35:43 AM
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Joined: 9/20/2015
Posts: 2,811
Location: Mombasa
enyands wrote:
Spikes wrote:
enyands wrote:
Bachuma Gate wrote:
The truth of the matter is that the MD, Directors and senior staff borrowed from the bank and bought shares BEFORE the IPO. It is a against the law to lend money for purchase of your own shares.

1.The fact is they bought shares before the IPO, before the share split and at different price than the IPO price. The fact that they did this knowing that the bank would be doing an IPO is what is called insider trading.

2. The rest of the staff bought during the IPO. This what you would call ESOP.

If you are a member of a co-op that is a shareholder of the bank, just know that you are the one who was played games otherwise who owns coops? It is you and me.

Ask yourself how came the rest of the staff did not make hundreds of millions yet they were also made to borrow and buy the shares.
The trick was with the share split. Anyone who had one share, was given 100.

This is how it was done

1. Before the IPO allocate each of yourself lots of shares. MD gets say 680,000 shares. OTC price was between shs60 and 80. So he borrows says 50m from the bank and buys the shares. Pls note that the share were acquired before the IPO. They never bought them during the IPO.

2. Carry a share split of 1:100. So he ends up with 68,000,000 shares.

3. AT the IPO with a price of 9.50. The man is already worth 646,000,000.00. At the current price of 18 the man is worth 1.2b.

4. The rest of the staff are made to buy the shares at IPO. So say a staff buys same number of shares as the MD. 680,000 shares. IPO price 9.50. Therefore 680,000*9.50=6.4m. At the current price, the follow is worth 680,000*18=12.2m. I hope the clever guys here can see the connection between the 12.2m and the 1.2b. IT IS THE SHARE SPLIT BEFORE THE IPO.


The same game was played at CIC. Just check their financials and see how many shares the Co-op MD and CIC MD. That is why Co-op Bank has heavily invested in CIC more than other co-ops because of this monkey business.

As for the coffee written-off thing, the evidence is there. IT will come out one day.

The thing about the media not covering the story out of compromise; The former MDs PA knows how he was able to achieve this all along.

And in a clearly choreographed move; Ruto's wife is give 5 million by the bank the other day for her foundation. Basically continue buying protection. And nothing will happen to you. Let people make noise.


Most of people fell into your point number 2. They were duped into protecting their own
Bank.loans were given at staff rate of 3-5%depending on if you regularly attend prayers meeting chaired by your know who. ...

The conditions were doctored and tailored to make it be like staff have to support their own bank or else oneself can be transferred to homa bay branch from nairobi.

Now that someone stepped out is when someone realised that their intelligence was at stake because most staff were purchasing ESOP that were being offloaded by the said saved men of God after their X100 gain

For those who belive in heaven ,it's only few who will enter that kingdom .disposing 120,000,000 shares won't guarantee you a place even if you head the prayer meetings.





@enyands please explain about prayer meetings. Wazuans want to know the tricks of deception by the wolves of COOP bank aka management and directorship.


Spikes just be careful with people who masquerade as men of God and mix with high profile business deals . I'd rather deal with DJ who you know from word go is shady and is open about it than hypocrites.



...and the list continues FEP Group of Companies coming in the name of the saviour Jesus Christ.


John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
mkate_nusu
#110 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2016 2:23:18 PM
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Joined: 5/30/2016
Posts: 332
Location: Kayole
Spikes wrote:
mkate_nusu wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Bachuma Gate wrote:
The truth of the matter is that the MD, Directors and senior staff borrowed from the bank and bought shares BEFORE the IPO. It is a against the law to lend money for purchase of your own shares.

1.The fact is they bought shares before the IPO, before the share split and at different price than the IPO price. The fact that they did this knowing that the bank would be doing an IPO is what is called insider trading.

2. The rest of the staff bought during the IPO. This what you would call ESOP.

If you are a member of a co-op that is a shareholder of the bank, just know that you are the one who was played games otherwise who owns coops? It is you and me.

Ask yourself how came the rest of the staff did not make hundreds of millions yet they were also made to borrow and buy the shares.
The trick was with the share split. Anyone who had one share, was given 100.

This is how it was done

1. Before the IPO allocate each of yourself lots of shares. MD gets say 680,000 shares. OTC price was between shs60 and 80. So he borrows says 50m from the bank and buys the shares. Pls note that the share were acquired before the IPO. They never bought them during the IPO.

2. Carry a share split of 1:100. So he ends up with 68,000,000 shares.

3. AT the IPO with a price of 9.50. The man is already worth 646,000,000.00. At the current price of 18 the man is worth 1.2b.

4. The rest of the staff are made to buy the shares at IPO. So say a staff buys same number of shares as the MD. 680,000 shares. IPO price 9.50. Therefore 680,000*9.50=6.4m. At the current price, the follow is worth 680,000*18=12.2m. I hope the clever guys here can see the connection between the 12.2m and the 1.2b. IT IS THE SHARE SPLIT BEFORE THE IPO.


The same game was played at CIC. Just check their financials and see how many shares the Co-op MD and CIC MD. That is why Co-op Bank has heavily invested in CIC more than other co-ops because of this monkey business.

As for the coffee written-off thing, the evidence is there. IT will come out one day.

The thing about the media not covering the story out of compromise; The former MDs PA knows how he was able to achieve this all along.

And in a clearly choreographed move; Ruto's wife is give 5 million by the bank the other day for her foundation. Basically continue buying protection. And nothing will happen to you. Let people make noise.



@Bachuma Gate, Quite insightful. My coop ( name withheld) made made almost 100m after the listing. The "owners" as u have noted made much more. Hii Kenya ina wenyewe kweli.


Well calculated moves



More than 75% of Kenyan voters don't understand @Bachuma Gate's in depth analysis shedding light on the wolves of NSE now particularly Coop bank. If most Kenyans had this knowledge at the same level as they embrace their cultural values then voting based on issues could have swept Mafisi politicians home.

Shafting continues.....


These guys are giving the wolves of wall street valuable lessons although they can go to jail over there for such activities

Indeed, shafting continues from all corners and angles
KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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