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Marende gives verdict
Obi 1 Kanobi
#101 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:32:00 AM
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@Mr Tea.

Ease of the speaker,he could have tucked his tail and picked Mr. 8% and hid behind the simplistic interpretation of the law that Mutula and other 1eyed PNU lawyers love,but he didn't.

Instead he made a ruling that basically will force MK and RAO to also think outside the box.

Isn't it fantastic that the excessive powers of the presidency are being chipped,at this rate,we may soon have a real democracy.


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Mr.Tea
#102 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:43:00 AM
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@Obi
What peeves me is that fact that I thought that we had a different kind of leader in the person of Mr.Marende only for him to fall so short. It would have been more plausible if he had been decisive enough much to the chagrin of either party.. and erred..after all error is to human.To me.. thats a mark of a leader.

Patience Pays in Guaranteed Checks
Patience Pays In Guaranteed Checks.
Brewer
#103 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:47:00 AM
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Bareta,fear not expressing your opinion because if it is yours it should be safe.

Now that thing about raila knowing his direction- did he not want the leader of government business position because he said it is his? Marende said no and raila celebrates! he should have said the truth- 'all i want is to stop kalonzo taking it because it may make him appear bigger than me' or said the right thing- 'this coalition is nonsensical so we should convene parliament to pass necessary laws to enable fresh elections' rather than holding the whole country ransom in power games.
Njunge
#104 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:08:00 AM
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@Mr.Tea,

To break the impasse and make a ruling favouring either of the candidate,Mr. Marende would have been forced to make an interpretation of either the accord and the constitution or both.We all know that this is outside his jurisdiction and that such a move can only be undertaken by a constitutional court...........It is therefore safe to say he did his best within the confines of the standing orders.......In my opinion,he did an exemplary job with those limited powers.......let as give the devil his due.


Guka wa bijuti...
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Charley
#105 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:23:00 AM
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Excellent news. There is hope yet for Kenya. Marendes give Kenya a lifeline.

@Brewer and other such brothers/sisters. Let me keep this parsimonious. I will leave out the names of the individuals (which I will assume to be inconsequential) and refer only to the institutions. Arising from grave recent events,Kenya got into a unique National Accord to literally save the counrty. Two Principals were created (and all Kenyans seem to agree to that). Now that simply means we have two equal leaders. Equal in powers; equal in status; equal in salary and yes,equal in toilets. That is the principle. In reality one principal is however is using all sorts of tricks to be the major principal and diminish the other to a minor principal. Results - fragmentation of the country. Excellent decision by Marende. Indeed,the only good news we have had in a long while. A return to the spirit (note spirit and not necessarily the interpretation and legal tricks thereof) of the accord is necessary.
Spendthrift
#106 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:27:00 AM
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Thank you Njunge.

No matter how many call him a coward,he can only be a coward of the country because he laid bare the way forward.

Chosing either of the two listed would have turned him into a gambler,gambling with the lives,businesses and future of Kenyans.

And honestly,although I am not a legal expert,I feel there could be no lawyers who can legally challenge his actions (conclusively).

But there are many who can challenge him politically,including 95% on SK. And this is the sad awakening,meaning that we are not out of the woods yet and the woods are threatening to burn.



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The General
#107 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:52:00 AM
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@ Njunge,

Spot on

The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
Ngalaka
#108 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:56:00 AM
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@Njung'e
Marende interprets the law and the constitution all the time in parliament for purposes of making the house run within the confines of law.

He shouldnt have made yesterday the exception.

If his argument were valid,then in future if another minister challenges what the president has decided,he will ask the president to consult with the minister.

Marende should have said who is mandated by the law to nominate. Any other busy body purporting to nominate should have been seen for what they are,- time wasters.

Raila thought the seat should have gone to him,Kibaki thought it was for him to pick,and indeed picked Kalonzo,how come after Marende decided to keep it,Raila and Co. rejoiced!
I mean we are wrangling over whose apple this is. We call an abiter,who to my utter dismay,chooses to eat it himself,so that both of us go hungry. As I cry,you are busy grinning and clapping. Obviously you are the mischievous guy who didnt have any legitimate claim to the apple in the first place.

Your sole goal was to spite me.

Things arent always the way they look like
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Mr.Tea
#109 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:39:00 PM
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@Njung'e,
My argument here is simply this..someone needed to break the impasse'.Now Marende had that opportunity.Whichever way he could have ruled,it would have freed the nation from this ransom. Otherwise the situation as it is will persist and its costing this nation dearly.

Patience Pays in Guaranteed Checks
Patience Pays In Guaranteed Checks.
sukuma
#110 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:50:00 PM
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Which ever way you try to interprete it Marende saved the country by choosing an easy option that would see the return of normalcy in parliament,as he put it accordingly 'disperate moments call for extra ordinary measures' he was soo right,this is not business as usual it is a coalition govt that was formed coz of 'circumstances' and i see absolutely nothing wrong in his ruling after all if we stuck by the constitution after the disputed election many of us would be refugees somewhere.

sk lady
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