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guru267 wrote:#LightUsUp  Dilemma?
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guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Is there any knowledgeable Christian or Jew who can explain to us why the first King of the Jews Saul lost his throne to David?? An admission of ignorance?  Didn't know you were this humble, to ask for help.  Not to worry, when the student(you) is ready, the teacher appears So instead of a lot of blah blah blah.... do you have a concrete answer? Do you?  I love you Christians and how you hide from anything inconvenient! None of you has any guts! King Saul was commanded by Yahweh to Slaughter a whole town after taking it over and when he didn't Yahweh took his throne! How hard was that!? Must be hard for many of you to swallow... I totally understand because that level of violence is nowhere in the Quran! God's instructions. Same God who wiped out a people in Noah's time. That's His prerogative... BUT In those days, the wages of sin was death. It was why Jesus Christ came, so that whosoever believes in Him should not perish. He died, so that we may not have to. So now, this mohamed of yours,got dreams to have you killing people? And you'll look for excuses everywhere, other than the truth... that he is ... And have you yourself killed anyone? Or are you disobeying
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Turkey is blackmailing the global coalition. They have refused to participate in the coalition unless the US also attacks President Assad in Syria. They have in the past also faced Kurdish separatism and thereby seem ambivalent as to helping the Kurds in Kobane. The fact that Turkey shares a long border with these insecure states afflicted by IS makes them cautious as to how to act given the number of Turks working in Syria and Iraq. With the three matters above, the Turks seem content watching Kobane fall as well as cutting off Kurdish fighters seeking to backup their own in Kobane. The US coalition on the other hand seems strained and insufficient. They appear slow to have acted in hitting IS targets in their Kobane offensive. Kurds are indicating these strikes are little too late in the day. Beyond the slowness to act, the US airstrikes appear to only be able to hit one town at a time. With multiple strikes in Anbar Province, minimal action was experienced in Kobane and now vice versa. President Obama's strategy without boots on the ground is glaringly insufficient. Meanwhile, police in Turkey continue to clash with residents and refugees demanding the Turkish government act to save Kobane which is falling to IS. 14 dead so far in those clashes - Turkish-Kurds clash link - http://bigstory.ap.org/a...europe-seek-help-against
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Is there any knowledgeable Christian or Jew who can explain to us why the first King of the Jews Saul lost his throne to David?? An admission of ignorance? Didn't know you were this humble, to ask for help. Not to worry, when the student(you) is ready, the teacher appears So instead of a lot of blah blah blah.... do you have a concrete answer? Do you? I love you Christians and how you hide from anything inconvenient! None of you has any guts! King Saul was commanded by Yahweh to Slaughter a whole town after taking it over and when he didn't Yahweh took his throne! How hard was that!? Must be hard for many of you to swallow... I totally understand because that level of violence is nowhere in the Quran! God's instructions. Same God who wiped out a people in Noah's time. That's His prerogative... BUT In those days, the wages of sin was death. It was why Jesus Christ came, so that whosoever believes in Him should not perish. He died, so that we may not have to. So now, this mohamed of yours,got dreams to have you killing people? And you'll look for excuses everywhere, other than the truth... that he is ... And have you yourself killed anyone? Or are you disobeying Ahh.. Finally someone agrees that Yahweh did use man to kill others when creating his Jewish Caliphate.. Now kindly inform me where Jesus changed the wages of sin... Anywhere where he directly spoke to this! Because I remember Jesus said three times he would die but nowhere did he say it was to save us from anything... But you can correct me if I'm wrong Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:guru267 wrote:tycho wrote:guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Is there any knowledgeable Christian or Jew who can explain to us why the first King of the Jews Saul lost his throne to David?? An admission of ignorance? Didn't know you were this humble, to ask for help. Not to worry, when the student(you) is ready, the teacher appears So instead of a lot of blah blah blah.... do you have a concrete answer? Do you? I love you Christians and how you hide from anything inconvenient! None of you has any guts! King Saul was commanded by Yahweh to Slaughter a whole town after taking it over and when he didn't Yahweh took his throne! How hard was that!? Must be hard for many of you to swallow... I totally understand because that level of violence is nowhere in the Quran! 1 Samuel 15. If I look at the chapter I see another reason that's different from the one given here. God dethroned Saul because the latter couldn't be trusted to follow God's will, and instead was more amenable to popular influence and would thus undermine God's covenant with the children of Israel. @tycho we were not born yesterday so stop manipulating the truth! Samuel told Saul that it was Yahweh's will that he must slaughter everything that breathes after taking over the town... When Saul didn't slaughter everything that breathes he was dethroned! its that simple.. No. It's not that simple. Everyone, even God, manipulates truth to validate personal experience. @tycho, of course it not a simple matter. Now see another instruction given to kill innocent people. Bible Numbers 31:15-17: " And Moses said to them: have you kept all the women alive? Now therefore kill every male among the little ones. (Every male child, among the little ones, kill them). And kill every woman who has known a man intimately, kill. (if any woman has ever had sex with a man, kill them also). But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. (the young, virgin girls. Not the little ones, little ones are liability, you got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that) HOW DOES A SOLDIER IN THE FIELD VERIFY THAT A GIRL IS VIRGIN IN ORDER TO KIDNAP HER?This is the instruction given to Jewish soldiers in the field. Now when they see a young Palestinian girl, how can you verify whether this woman has experienced sex or not? How do you verify? The soldier in the field. He does not know about the saliva test. He does not know anything about that. THE ONLY WAY IS TO RAPE AND RAVISH THESE POOR GIRLS TO VERIFY WHETHER A MAN HAS BEEN THROUGH HER OR NOT.And if they discover that she has been already been used, 2nd hand, chop off her head. If not, keep them. And they saved for themselves 32,000 girls, who had not known a man intimately (Numbers 31:35) (After raping them, they saved themselves 32,000 and out of that) AND LORD ALMIGHTY TOLD THEM TO KEEP POUND OF FLESH FOR HIM!!Numbers 31:40 ... Of which Lord's tribute was 32 personsI'm asking what does the Lord do with 32 raped and ravished girls? So do you perform 'saliva' test on your daughters? Or do you ravish them to determine whether or not they are still virgins? Yes you are not a soldier on the field but to insist your weird opinion is the only valid opinion leaves you and me with no other alternatives except the very weird opinion you insist is right. I am sorry to talk like this but you left me no other way. Also that virginity is a big deal and why lie about it? So how do you determine the virginity of young girls e.g. your daughters? (a) You do your 'saliva' test? (b) You ravish them?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:guru267 wrote:tycho wrote:guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Mukiri wrote:guru267 wrote:Is there any knowledgeable Christian or Jew who can explain to us why the first King of the Jews Saul lost his throne to David?? An admission of ignorance? Didn't know you were this humble, to ask for help. Not to worry, when the student(you) is ready, the teacher appears So instead of a lot of blah blah blah.... do you have a concrete answer? Do you? I love you Christians and how you hide from anything inconvenient! None of you has any guts! King Saul was commanded by Yahweh to Slaughter a whole town after taking it over and when he didn't Yahweh took his throne! How hard was that!? Must be hard for many of you to swallow... I totally understand because that level of violence is nowhere in the Quran! 1 Samuel 15. If I look at the chapter I see another reason that's different from the one given here. God dethroned Saul because the latter couldn't be trusted to follow God's will, and instead was more amenable to popular influence and would thus undermine God's covenant with the children of Israel. @tycho we were not born yesterday so stop manipulating the truth! Samuel told Saul that it was Yahweh's will that he must slaughter everything that breathes after taking over the town... When Saul didn't slaughter everything that breathes he was dethroned! its that simple.. No. It's not that simple. Everyone, even God, manipulates truth to validate personal experience. @tycho, of course it not a simple matter. Now see another instruction given to kill innocent people. Bible Numbers 31:15-17: " And Moses said to them: have you kept all the women alive? Now therefore kill every male among the little ones. (Every male child, among the little ones, kill them). And kill every woman who has known a man intimately, kill. (if any woman has ever had sex with a man, kill them also). But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. (the young, virgin girls. Not the little ones, little ones are liability, you got to feed them and bring them up, no time for that) HOW DOES A SOLDIER IN THE FIELD VERIFY THAT A GIRL IS VIRGIN IN ORDER TO KIDNAP HER?This is the instruction given to Jewish soldiers in the field. Now when they see a young Palestinian girl, how can you verify whether this woman has experienced sex or not? How do you verify? The soldier in the field. He does not know about the saliva test. He does not know anything about that. THE ONLY WAY IS TO RAPE AND RAVISH THESE POOR GIRLS TO VERIFY WHETHER A MAN HAS BEEN THROUGH HER OR NOT.And if they discover that she has been already been used, 2nd hand, chop off her head. If not, keep them. And they saved for themselves 32,000 girls, who had not known a man intimately (Numbers 31:35) (After raping them, they saved themselves 32,000 and out of that) AND LORD ALMIGHTY TOLD THEM TO KEEP POUND OF FLESH FOR HIM!!Numbers 31:40 ... Of which Lord's tribute was 32 personsI'm asking what does the Lord do with 32 raped and ravished girls? So do you perform 'saliva' test on your daughters? Or do you ravish them to determine whether or not they are still virgins? Yes you are not a soldier on the field but to insist your weird opinion is the only valid opinion leaves you and me with no other alternatives except the very weird opinion you insist is right. I am sorry to talk like this but you left me no other way. Also that virginity is a big deal and why lie about it? So how do you determine the virginity of young girls e.g. your daughters? (a) You do your 'saliva' test? (b) You ravish them? No, virginity is not a big deal to me. But it was a big deal to God in Bible Numbers 31:35. I'm not the one who wrote that verse. So tell us, how did the soldiers in the field confirmed woman has not known a man intimately (Numbers 31:35)? It is not about me or you here. So your questions (a) and (b) are irrelevant.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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You can't trust the internet. Those pictures could be doctored. Photoshop is widely sold in the Middle East.
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