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FRM2011		#1071 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:40:50 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459		Question for @masukuma and @alma. I have seen a very interesting thing on twitter and in the era of fake news its only fair to check with you guys. Someone claims to have discovered that the following two sites are hosted by the same guy. https://cambridgeanalytica.org/ (54.192.219.213) public.rts.iebc.or.ke (54.192.219.187) The host name is Amazon technologies inc in Marseille France. I am hoping its fake news. Because Cambridge Analytica have just accepted for the first time that they have been working for Jubilee.
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innairobi		#1072 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:45:50 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845		I'm not sure you're aware but Amazon is one of the largest and most reliable server hosts in the world. It's like saying IEBC is compromised because both Raila and Chebukati have Gmail accounts. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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FRM2011		#1073 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:51:25 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459		innairobi wrote: I'm not sure you're aware but Amazon is one of the largest and most reliable server hosts in the world. It's like saying IEBC is compromised because both Raila and Chebukati have Gmail accounts. This is not my area. Niulize mambo ya hesabu ya pesa. That is why I am asking the rwo gurus to break it down to us.
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innairobi		#1074 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:14:32 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 845		FRM2011 wrote: innairobi wrote: I'm not sure you're aware but Amazon is one of the largest and most reliable server hosts in the world. It's like saying IEBC is compromised because both Raila and Chebukati have Gmail accounts. This is not my area. Niulize mambo ya hesabu ya pesa. That is why I am asking the rwo gurus to break it down to us. wacha tuwangoje watueleze. this was a report early this year surveying about 1,000 enterprises on their cloud computing choices. at 57%, AWS (Amazon Web Services) was by far the most actively used followed by Microsoft's Azure with 34%. my two cents is that sharing the same service provider especially one as gigantic as Amazon shouldn't raise eyebrows unless there is proof showing otherwise. i would presume given the nature, quality and complexity of organizations who do their business on Amazon servers, the security would be world class making it extremely difficult to manipulate another client's data. All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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masukuma		#1075 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:59:52 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		Most Kenyans suffer from what is known as DELUSIONS OF GRANDUER... you collectively fail to have a sense of proportion!! I hear many people talk about some of the companies which provided support to the IEBC as if they are one man shows operating in river-road!! Sikizeni... this may come as a shock to you but... Kenya is nothing but a corrupt, poor, 3rd world country!!! No one wants to screw you out of a presidency...infact NO ONE REALLY CARES BUT YOU!! I see people asking about Amazon web services... a company owned by Jeff Bezos... the SECOND RICHEST MAN ON THE PLANET... It hosts so many things... heck even I have web services running off it as well as Azure!! We are like that guy who gets a safcom sim card and as soon as there are some problems - we think Safaricom has teamed up with your neighbor who you have a boundary dispute with to screw you... YOU ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT!! Safaricom may tell ALL it's customers that they are important (AS A GROUP) but you individually.... sorry... not so important. on Al Ghurair - well... if ever there was a company that is printing for almost all Election Commissions that I have worked for - thats them! not just ballot papers, OMR forms e.t.c. this is a huge global company... it was not started to screw you and your ballot papers. Mark you IEBC moved from Smith and Ouzman to al ghurair after the noise of the chicken gate scandal. Sikizeni...Al Ghurair printers is part of a 25,000 people strong conglomerate!! The group has done work on Burj Khalifa, Emirates Towers and the Dubai Metro... this is not a small company designed to screw you out of your presidency as NASA!! SAFRAN/MORPHO/OT-Morpho whatever they call themselves next week is/was part of the french conglomerate that builds aircraft engines!! that group used to produce phones... my first phone was a SAGEM phone.... from the same group!! these are not tu-small one person shops that will screw up their reputations making "algorithms" that prejudice a RAILA presidency... Sikizeni as I am going to say this ONCE!! you are not that important... you may feel important but that is as far as it goes!! you are dwarves at an international scale. So quickly put this election behind you and move towards doing things that will make you slightly taller. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Bigchick		#1076 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 3:17:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.		masukuma wrote: Most Kenyans suffer from what is known as DELUSIONS OF GRANDUER... you collectively fail to have a sense of proportion!! I hear many people talk about some of the companies which provided support to the IEBC as if they are one man shows operating in river-road!! Sikizeni... this may come as a shock to you but... Kenya is nothing but a corrupt, poor, 3rd world country!!! No one wants to screw you out of a presidency...infact NO ONE REALLY CARES BUT YOU!! I see people asking about Amazon web services... a company owned by Jeff Bezos... the SECOND RICHEST MAN ON THE PLANET... It hosts so many things... heck even I have web services running off it as well as Azure!! We are like that guy who gets a safcom sim card and as soon as there are some problems - we think Safaricom has teamed up with your neighbor who you have a boundary dispute with to screw you... YOU ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT!! Safaricom may tell ALL it's customers that they are important (AS A GROUP) but you individually.... sorry... not so important. on Al Ghurair - well... if ever there was a company that is printing for almost all Election Commissions that I have worked for - thats them! not just ballot papers, OMR forms e.t.c. this is a huge global company... it was not started to screw you and your ballot papers. Mark you IEBC moved from Smith and Ouzman to al ghurair after the noise of the chicken gate scandal. Sikizeni...Al Ghurair printers is part of a 25,000 people strong conglomerate!! The group has done work on Burj Khalifa, Emirates Towers and the Dubai Metro... this is not a small company designed to screw you out of your presidency as NASA!! SAFRAN/MORPHO/OT-Morpho whatever they call themselves next week is/was part of the french conglomerate that builds aircraft engines!! that group used to produce phones... my first phone was a SAGEM phone.... from the same group!! these are not tu-small one person shops that will screw up their reputations making "algorithms" that prejudice a RAILA presidency... Sikizeni as I am going to say this ONCE!! you are not that important... you may feel important but that is as far as it goes!! you are dwarves at an international scale. So quickly put this election behind you and move towards doing things that will make you slightly taller. Wewe!Tushomeshe by answering those questions asked up there in language we can understand. Wacha kutukana sisi ati tuko Granduer. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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murchr		#1077 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:07:34 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		masukuma wrote: Most Kenyans suffer from what is known as DELUSIONS OF GRANDUER... you collectively fail to have a sense of proportion!! I hear many people talk about some of the companies which provided support to the IEBC as if they are one man shows operating in river-road!! Sikizeni... this may come as a shock to you but... Kenya is nothing but a corrupt, poor, 3rd world country!!! No one wants to screw you out of a presidency...infact NO ONE REALLY CARES BUT YOU!! I see people asking about Amazon web services... a company owned by Jeff Bezos... the SECOND RICHEST MAN ON THE PLANET... It hosts so many things... heck even I have web services running off it as well as Azure!! We are like that guy who gets a safcom sim card and as soon as there are some problems - we think Safaricom has teamed up with your neighbor who you have a boundary dispute with to screw you... YOU ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT!! Safaricom may tell ALL it's customers that they are important (AS A GROUP) but you individually.... sorry... not so important. on Al Ghurair - well... if ever there was a company that is printing for almost all Election Commissions that I have worked for - thats them! not just ballot papers, OMR forms e.t.c. this is a huge global company... it was not started to screw you and your ballot papers. Mark you IEBC moved from Smith and Ouzman to al ghurair after the noise of the chicken gate scandal. Sikizeni...Al Ghurair printers is part of a 25,000 people strong conglomerate!! The group has done work on Burj Khalifa, Emirates Towers and the Dubai Metro... this is not a small company designed to screw you out of your presidency as NASA!! SAFRAN/MORPHO/OT-Morpho whatever they call themselves next week is/was part of the french conglomerate that builds aircraft engines!! that group used to produce phones... my first phone was a SAGEM phone.... from the same group!! these are not tu-small one person shops that will screw up their reputations making "algorithms" that prejudice a RAILA presidency... Sikizeni as I am going to say this ONCE!! you are not that important... you may feel important but that is as far as it goes!! you are dwarves at an international scale. So quickly put this election behind you and move towards doing things that will make you slightly taller. That reporter who invited you to write an opinion piece should do the same now. Or even better appear on a TV show and shove this truth to some of these people. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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ngapat		#1078 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:15:46 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/11/2006 Posts: 930		Justice Maraga has urged Judges and magistrates to ignore legal and procedural technicalities, and determine the electoral disputes on substantive issues. According to Mr Maraga, this was the cause that led to the erosion of public confidence in the Judiciary “Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
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quicksand		#1079 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:37:46 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi		ngapat wrote: Justice Maraga has urged Judges and magistrates to ignore legal and procedural technicalities, and determine the electoral disputes on substantive issues. According to Mr Maraga, this was the cause that led to the erosion of public confidence in the Judiciary That is rich.... His court invalidated the entire election on technicalities.
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masukuma		#1080 Posted : Saturday, September 16, 2017 5:43:25 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		Much Know wrote: If the burukenge judges ordered iebc to do another election because their request on servers could not be satisfied, what will they do now that their other request to hold an elections cannot be satisfied because the system has to be upgraded to meet the their demands for scrutiny? Worse problems will arise. This is why I fault IEBC!! they did not want to seem incompetent!! Let's face it... those Orders had things that NASA wanted - let me ask... who said those things existed? Each system is different! you may not have those things built in. But since IEBC had outsourced most of this work - they were clueless on whether they had these things or not. it's similar to someone asking you to give designs to the bunker in your house and tests to verify that your house has [insert here some ISO standard for bunkers] and you don't know if you have a bunker and you agree to 'comply' to give them these designs and tests! Not all systems are built the same! You should be the one to state whether something is possible or not! people cannot just google terms and drop them in a document and ask you to produce them and you have the incompetence not to say... SORRY FELLOWS... WRONG NUMBER! OUR SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE THESE THINGS!! or we never did these things! especially if there was no law or regulation that required you to do so! Who says all systems built have "read only" access? the OS has, major databases have - the application built? its based on whether it was seen to be useful at the time. So it's all on IEBC... they were incompetent and did not want to be seen as such and started playing games. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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