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obiero
#10211 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 10:45:11 PM
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Stiffler wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Stiffler wrote:
Out of ignorance, didnt anyone specifically raise a point of order and inquire about the Open Offer?! Me thinks for an agm to be an AGM people should be facilitated to ask questions. Otherwise it becomes a Public Briefing...

Most of the retail investors at KQ are old people with limited knowledge and the KQ board therefore runs roughshod over the segment. A court case is likely to come up and a depressed share price in the interim period is imminent since no sane investor pre-restructure shall trade at such levels of loss. That being said, I never made it to todays AGM but would not have asked about the Open Offer even if I did attend. Want to see just how dark, the KQ management can get..

Hold on. This is your Alpha and Omega [investing-wise]. I have never seen anyone put in so much time and effort dissing anyone who dared question KQ's viability. And all those posts about the "Open Offer"...
And you didn't go to the AGM?


Loll,..
He was so sure the open offer was forthcoming....
Had started marshalling my war chest...
Anyway, this was simply a case of bad intel

There was a document which has since been taken down from their capital optimization webpage.. soo shady. feeling torn

KQ ABP 4.26
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maka
#10212 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 8:19:22 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
@maka, what is the cabin factor so far for the JFK maiden flight?

Do you have any information?



Il check for you...

https://www.businessdail...17016-2n8lvh/index.html



Terrible figures....

Inaugural flight has 60 something (plus joyriders) ... Return 30... Thats highest number other flights have 10...18 etc infact one has 3...2 adults and a kid...

Ground handling cost 4700 USD per dreamliner... Madness... GHA cost hapa Juba ni 600 USD.

@maka the first two years of any route are usually not profitable


First 3 but as I said Sebastian was told to do 3 flights weekly he totally refused... 3 would have been ideal...
possunt quia posse videntur
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Ericsson
#10213 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 8:53:10 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Stiffler wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Stiffler wrote:
Out of ignorance, didnt anyone specifically raise a point of order and inquire about the Open Offer?! Me thinks for an agm to be an AGM people should be facilitated to ask questions. Otherwise it becomes a Public Briefing...

Most of the retail investors at KQ are old people with limited knowledge and the KQ board therefore runs roughshod over the segment. A court case is likely to come up and a depressed share price in the interim period is imminent since no sane investor pre-restructure shall trade at such levels of loss. That being said, I never made it to todays AGM but would not have asked about the Open Offer even if I did attend. Want to see just how dark, the KQ management can get..

Hold on. This is your Alpha and Omega [investing-wise]. I have never seen anyone put in so much time and effort dissing anyone who dared question KQ's viability. And all those posts about the "Open Offer"...
And you didn't go to the AGM?


Loll,..
He was so sure the open offer was forthcoming....
Had started marshalling my war chest...
Anyway, this was simply a case of bad intel

There was a document which has since been taken down from their capital optimization webpage.. soo shady. feeling torn


Don't underestimate the power of KQ Lenders
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero
#10214 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 9:27:04 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Stiffler wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Stiffler wrote:
Out of ignorance, didnt anyone specifically raise a point of order and inquire about the Open Offer?! Me thinks for an agm to be an AGM people should be facilitated to ask questions. Otherwise it becomes a Public Briefing...

Most of the retail investors at KQ are old people with limited knowledge and the KQ board therefore runs roughshod over the segment. A court case is likely to come up and a depressed share price in the interim period is imminent since no sane investor pre-restructure shall trade at such levels of loss. That being said, I never made it to todays AGM but would not have asked about the Open Offer even if I did attend. Want to see just how dark, the KQ management can get..

Hold on. This is your Alpha and Omega [investing-wise]. I have never seen anyone put in so much time and effort dissing anyone who dared question KQ's viability. And all those posts about the "Open Offer"...
And you didn't go to the AGM?


Loll,..
He was so sure the open offer was forthcoming....
Had started marshalling my war chest...
Anyway, this was simply a case of bad intel

There was a document which has since been taken down from their capital optimization webpage.. soo shady. feeling torn


Don't underestimate the power of KQ Lenders

Extremely dark forces are conspiring to defraud minority shareholders

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kayhara
#10215 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 11:19:41 AM
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Back to hedging is this a good thing or a bad thing? with the Iran, Saudi deal won't they regret hedging at current prices only for them to fall soon. https://www.businessdail...862-14n76ohz/index.html
To Each His Own
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Stiffler
#10216 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 1:30:08 PM
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'Kenya Airways why ignore'


Title was so spot on, but we didnt listen
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obiero
#10217 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 1:36:48 PM
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Stiffler wrote:
'Kenya Airways why ignore'


Title was so spot on, but we didnt listen

It was known that the company was in distress by all and sundry. What wasn't known was that it's management would intentionally mislead investors

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Ericsson
#10218 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 3:42:02 PM
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The key to KQ recovery will be
--Growth in passenger numbers
--Growth in revenue
Cost cutting measures they are now past that
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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obiero
#10219 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 4:08:26 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
The key to KQ recovery will be
--Growth in passenger numbers
--Growth in revenue
Cost cutting measures they are now past that

The KAA-KQ PPP is also a game changer but for now I watch from a distance with my 80,000 KQ shares

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obiero
#10220 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2018 4:17:29 PM
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kayhara wrote:
Back to hedging is this a good thing or a bad thing? with the Iran, Saudi deal won't they regret hedging at current prices only for them to fall soon. https://www.businessdail...862-14n76ohz/index.html

It's a gamble but depends largely on the experts at hand.. Obviously the former CFO used it for self enrichment

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