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VituVingiSana		#10201 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 3:39:30 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,344 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: obiero wrote: maka wrote: Impunity wrote: We never learn, as KQuers. I still stand with my opinion that Sebastian wont stay for long sorry to say this but this NY flights will be the beginning of the end. Shindwe! Daily flights to States cant work with the fleet in hand... Ohh plus crew... How many delays were there last week due to "crew shortage" Question: Is the crew/staff trying to sabotage KQ? If they sabotage KQ, then what? I am invested in KQ via 1/45,000,000 shareholding of GoK's holding + a larger percentage via some of the exposed banks e.g. Equity and I&M. @maka - Why would US flights not work? If priced right, why would folks want to take the longer ME or EU connections? Aircraft - I read that the 787s and 777s leased to TK and Oman are being returned within 2 years. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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VituVingiSana		#10202 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 3:44:53 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,344 Location: Nairobi		KQ keeps Kibaki's heels cooling. I wonder what Kibaki would say of KQ "Mavi ya kuku" https://citizentv.co.ke/...t-kisumu-airport-152257/ Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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obiero		#10203 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 3:48:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,211 Location: nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: Stiffler wrote: Out of ignorance, didnt anyone specifically raise a point of order and inquire about the Open Offer?! Me thinks for an agm to be an AGM people should be facilitated to ask questions. Otherwise it becomes a Public Briefing... Most of the retail investors at KQ are old people with limited knowledge and the KQ board therefore runs roughshod over the segment. A court case is likely to come up and a depressed share price in the interim period is imminent since no sane investor pre-restructure shall trade at such levels of loss. That being said, I never made it to todays AGM but would not have asked about the Open Offer even if I did attend. Want to see just how dark, the KQ management can get.. Hold on. This is your Alpha and Omega [investing-wise]. I have never seen anyone put in so much time and effort dissing anyone who dared question KQ's viability. And all those posts about the "Open Offer"... And you didn't go to the AGM? We have been taken on a wild goose chase by the white men, but we shall overcome. Headed to the courts soon unless Jesus softens their hearts KQ ABP 4.26
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VituVingiSana		#10204 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 4:16:56 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,344 Location: Nairobi		obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: Stiffler wrote: Out of ignorance, didnt anyone specifically raise a point of order and inquire about the Open Offer?! Me thinks for an agm to be an AGM people should be facilitated to ask questions. Otherwise it becomes a Public Briefing... Most of the retail investors at KQ are old people with limited knowledge and the KQ board therefore runs roughshod over the segment. A court case is likely to come up and a depressed share price in the interim period is imminent since no sane investor pre-restructure shall trade at such levels of loss. That being said, I never made it to todays AGM but would not have asked about the Open Offer even if I did attend. Want to see just how dark, the KQ management can get.. Hold on. This is your Alpha and Omega [investing-wise]. I have never seen anyone put in so much time and effort dissing anyone who dared question KQ's viability. And all those posts about the "Open Offer"... And you didn't go to the AGM? We have been taken on a wild goose chase by the white men, but we shall overcome. Headed to the courts soon unless Jesus softens their hearts Sigh, don't blame the "White Men" for what befell KQ shareholders. I was a fan of KQ until my eyes were opened up to the brazen mismanagement and theft at KQ headed by Mwaniki (Chairperson), Naikuni (CEO) and Mbugua (CFO). And many others. Then came in Ngunze as the "savior" who bought ZERO shares in KQ but walked away with 400mn+ in his 5 years at KQ. As is, KQ was BANKRUPT by 2016. When Joseph came in, he was given a BANKRUPT firm to resuscitate. I feel the pain as a (former) shareholder, taxpayer, citizen and shareholder of various banks/KQLC. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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obiero		#10205 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 4:45:19 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,211 Location: nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: Stiffler wrote: Out of ignorance, didnt anyone specifically raise a point of order and inquire about the Open Offer?! Me thinks for an agm to be an AGM people should be facilitated to ask questions. Otherwise it becomes a Public Briefing... Most of the retail investors at KQ are old people with limited knowledge and the KQ board therefore runs roughshod over the segment. A court case is likely to come up and a depressed share price in the interim period is imminent since no sane investor pre-restructure shall trade at such levels of loss. That being said, I never made it to todays AGM but would not have asked about the Open Offer even if I did attend. Want to see just how dark, the KQ management can get.. Hold on. This is your Alpha and Omega [investing-wise]. I have never seen anyone put in so much time and effort dissing anyone who dared question KQ's viability. And all those posts about the "Open Offer"... And you didn't go to the AGM? We have been taken on a wild goose chase by the white men, but we shall overcome. Headed to the courts soon unless Jesus softens their hearts Sigh, don't blame the "White Men" for what befell KQ shareholders. I was a fan of KQ until my eyes were opened up to the brazen mismanagement and theft at KQ headed by Mwaniki (Chairperson), Naikuni (CEO) and Mbugua (CFO). And many others. Then came in Ngunze as the "savior" who bought ZERO shares in KQ but walked away with 400mn+ in his 5 years at KQ. As is, KQ was BANKRUPT by 2016. When Joseph came in, he was given a BANKRUPT firm to resuscitate. I feel the pain as a (former) shareholder, taxpayer, citizen and shareholder of various banks/KQLC. I share solidly in your pain. The Open Offer would have made the difference but without it existing minority shareholders are doomed. If you see news about anyone storming The Pride Centre naked, ask no questions as to the identity of the individual KQ ABP 4.26
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obiero		#10206 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 7:31:18 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,211 Location: nairobi		Michael Joseph states "I am not a democrat but a dictator. I also truly don't know much about airlines but in an island full of blind people, the man with at least one eye is key".. I'm starting to doubt the guys sanity https://youtu.be/O9GVllZaiSA KQ ABP 4.26
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maka		#10207 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 9:22:10 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: @maka, what is the cabin factor so far for the JFK maiden flight? Do you have any information? Il check for you... https://www.businessdail...17016-2n8lvh/index.html Terrible figures.... Inaugural flight has 60 something (plus joyriders) ... Return 30... Thats highest number other flights have 10...18 etc infact one has 3...2 adults and a kid... Ground handling cost 4700 USD per dreamliner... Madness... GHA cost hapa Juba ni 600 USD. possunt quia posse videntur
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Spikes		#10208 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 9:24:02 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		[quote=obiero]Michael Joseph states "I am not a democrat but a dictator. I also truly don't know much about airlines but in an island full of blind people, the man with at least one eye is key".. I'm starting to doubt the guys sanity https://youtu.be/O9GVllZaiSA[/quote] You've made my evening. Don't kill me ooo! John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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obiero		#10209 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 9:29:02 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,211 Location: nairobi		maka wrote: maka wrote: ArrestedDev wrote: @maka, what is the cabin factor so far for the JFK maiden flight? Do you have any information? Il check for you... https://www.businessdail...17016-2n8lvh/index.html Terrible figures.... Inaugural flight has 60 something (plus joyriders) ... Return 30... Thats highest number other flights have 10...18 etc infact one has 3...2 adults and a kid... Ground handling cost 4700 USD per dreamliner... Madness... GHA cost hapa Juba ni 600 USD. @maka the first two years of any route are usually not profitable KQ ABP 4.26
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Stiffler		#10210 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2018 10:28:24 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2017 Posts: 186 Location: Nairobi		VituVingiSana wrote: obiero wrote: Stiffler wrote: Out of ignorance, didnt anyone specifically raise a point of order and inquire about the Open Offer?! Me thinks for an agm to be an AGM people should be facilitated to ask questions. Otherwise it becomes a Public Briefing... Most of the retail investors at KQ are old people with limited knowledge and the KQ board therefore runs roughshod over the segment. A court case is likely to come up and a depressed share price in the interim period is imminent since no sane investor pre-restructure shall trade at such levels of loss. That being said, I never made it to todays AGM but would not have asked about the Open Offer even if I did attend. Want to see just how dark, the KQ management can get.. Hold on. This is your Alpha and Omega [investing-wise]. I have never seen anyone put in so much time and effort dissing anyone who dared question KQ's viability. And all those posts about the "Open Offer"... And you didn't go to the AGM? Loll,.. He was so sure the open offer was forthcoming.... Had started marshalling my war chest... Anyway, this was simply a case of bad intel
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