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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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NIC becomes one more example of a struggling lender http://www.businessdaily...45670-jo884uz/index.html HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/3/2015 Posts: 118 Location: Nairobi
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Query: For small banks, has the rate cap lowered or raised their cost of deposits and savings? For example, looking at faulu bank, who a few ago were offering upto 12.5% interest on funds deposited with them in a savings account for a duration of 3 years, I presume currently that they more or less have the same amount as other banks for deposits and savings.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Musimo wrote:Query: For small banks, has the rate cap lowered or raised their cost of deposits and savings? For example, looking at faulu bank, who a few ago were offering upto 12.5% interest on funds deposited with them in a savings account for a duration of 3 years, I presume currently that they more or less have the same amount as other banks for deposits and savings. The issue is that of trust.. Most sensible clients will opt for say 7% at a large bank than risk it all at 8% on a smaller bank HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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Quote:Family Bank has posted a Sh259.57 million after-tax loss for the first three months of the year, citing a sharp rise in bad loans and the interest rate cap which ate into its profitability.
Gross non-performing loans jumped 92.14 per cent or Sh3.98 billion to Sh8.3 billion. Sidian bank reports a loss of Shs 79.2 million. Malenge ni mboga, ama namna gani?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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wukan wrote:Quote:Family Bank has posted a Sh259.57 million after-tax loss for the first three months of the year, citing a sharp rise in bad loans and the interest rate cap which ate into its profitability.
Gross non-performing loans jumped 92.14 per cent or Sh3.98 billion to Sh8.3 billion. Sidian bank reports a loss of Shs 79.2 million. Malenge ni mboga, ama namna gani? they should be careful not to cause customer panic "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:wukan wrote:Quote:Family Bank has posted a Sh259.57 million after-tax loss for the first three months of the year, citing a sharp rise in bad loans and the interest rate cap which ate into its profitability.
Gross non-performing loans jumped 92.14 per cent or Sh3.98 billion to Sh8.3 billion. Sidian bank reports a loss of Shs 79.2 million. Malenge ni mboga, ama namna gani? they should be careful not to cause customer panic That could be a good thing in disguise. Forcing some review of the cap.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:sparkly wrote:obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:[quote=muandiwambeu][quote=Ebenyo][quote=obiero]I told you guys to sell off bank stocks in 2014. Luckily made it out of some major holdings in good time.. but a big percent of your portfolio is still in banks! so, what do you expect to be a fair hair cut on obieros portfolio as a result of kamwanaas house attempt to please Wanjiku. what will be the overall industries' hit in percentage. my fair guess from my lender's perspective (16-14.5)/(16*0.5)*100=18.75% conservetively thieves. COOP & HF will come out strongest in this.. Too little meat to be bitten out from the two. Plus HF has never been strong on deposits being only licensed to have current accounts a few months ago!! HF will have the least interest expense of all listed lenders Hey @Obiero. Bill not signed. And please note I did not put the word 'yet' at the end. Its bound to be signed on Monday 29th Aug 2016 The bankers will visit statehouse with big brown envelop and this story will be forgotten. Smaller banks will fold Here we are... Family fires it's staff https://citizentv.co.ke/...fs-to-cut-costs-143841/
and then Sidian lays off 108 workers http://www.businessdaily...9550-3428588-151f209z/, then Ecobank collapses 9 branches http://www.businessdaily...6506-316lohz/index.html
First Community Bank let go of a quarter of its staff http://www.the-star.co.k...osed-number-of_c1451638
And now BoA closes 12 branches. Sad state of affairs http://www.businessdaily...2926-jp394sz/index.html[/quote] Sidian, NBK, Family, HF, NIC struggling.. Small banks shall fold HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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The reality of the interest rates caps is finally coming out. According to CBK latest data, rates cap will be good for the economy in the medium term. Check out the latest East African paper. Can't find link online though. Equity is also reverting to robust lending The sky is falling brigade please read and calm down, the cap stays on. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:The reality of the interest rates caps is finally coming out. According to CBK latest data, rates cap will be good for the economy in the medium term.
Check out the latest East African paper. Can't find link online though.
Equity is also reverting to robust lending
The sky is falling brigade please read and calm down, the cap stays on. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,683 Location: NAIROBI
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The law should have been made to be deposit at 70% of the CBK rate and loans given at a maximum of 70% above the CBK rate. This would have given lifeline to the small banks and credit to SMEs Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:The law should have been made to be deposit at 70% of the CBK rate and loans given at a maximum of 70% above the CBK rate. This would have given lifeline to the small banks and credit to SMEs @Ericsson that would be higher than the former KBRR rule HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,683 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:The law should have been made to be deposit at 70% of the CBK rate and loans given at a maximum of 70% above the CBK rate. This would have given lifeline to the small banks and credit to SMEs @Ericsson that would be higher than the former KBRR rule Not really; That would mean at the current rates the maximum interest rates bank would offer a loan will be 17% instead of the current 14% Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:The law should have been made to be deposit at 70% of the CBK rate and loans given at a maximum of 70% above the CBK rate. This would have given lifeline to the small banks and credit to SMEs @Ericsson that would be higher than the former KBRR rule Not really; That would mean at the current rates the maximum interest rates bank would offer a loan will be 17% instead of the current 14% Exactly, while KBRR was 14% plus a K that was determined independently by each bank.. The capping is a game changer that will obviously hurt a few banks and many workers but in my view we should aim for single digit interest regime as happens in most developed economies, backed by a solid credit scoring system HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,683 Location: NAIROBI
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@Obiero With the corruption,inflation,mismanagement of the economy,huge government borrowing,budget deficit,import-export gap single digit interest rates is a hard nut to crack. We need to fix the mentioned items and single digit interest rates will come automatically Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,634
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:The reality of the interest rates caps is finally coming out. According to CBK latest data, rates cap will be good for the economy in the medium term.
Check out the latest East African paper. Can't find link online though.
Equity is also reverting to robust lending
The sky is falling brigade please read and calm down, the cap stays on. Memo to: 'The Sky is Falling Department" Here you go: Numbers don't lieYou are welcome "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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Wakanyugi wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:The reality of the interest rates caps is finally coming out. According to CBK latest data, rates cap will be good for the economy in the medium term.
Check out the latest East African paper. Can't find link online though.
Equity is also reverting to robust lending
The sky is falling brigade please read and calm down, the cap stays on. Memo to: 'The Sky is Falling Department" Here you go: Numbers don't lieYou are welcome Have you looked at the M1 money supply statistics from 2016 to now? If you did you will like me all the way to the bank.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,589
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:The law should have been made to be deposit at 70% of the CBK rate and loans given at a maximum of 70% above the CBK rate. This would have given lifeline to the small banks and credit to SMEs @Ericsson that would be higher than the former KBRR rule Not really; That would mean at the current rates the maximum interest rates bank would offer a loan will be 17% instead of the current 14% Exactly, while KBRR was 14% plus a K that was determined independently by each bank.. The capping is a game changer that will obviously hurt a few banks and many workers but in my view we should aim for single digit interest regime as happens in most developed economies, backed by a solid credit scoring system Whose interest do you protect as a banker? That of the shareholder who gives the capital, the depositor who wants you to return his money intact or that of the borrower who wants you to finance his fancy projects? If you want the single digit interest rates where is that capital that you will lend at this rate? What is the savings rate in Kenya? Do people with good credit scores usually need risky loans
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,503 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:@Obiero With the corruption,inflation,mismanagement of the economy,huge government borrowing,budget deficit,import-export gap single digit interest rates is a hard nut to crack. We need to fix the mentioned items and single digit interest rates will come automatically I agree. The system is broken.. Here is proof http://mobile.nation.co....958792-yxh9g5/index.html HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Just noticed that NIC have been crediting interest every end month on my savings account Nice. I think kitambo the amounts were to negligible to notice... possunt quia posse videntur
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