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Cytonn Investments
VituVingiSana
#1011 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2020 7:12:19 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
tony stark wrote:
As a dial up user of Formnet kenya and Africa Online tuko wengi hapa!!

Horton wrote:
So this made my Saturday. And you are the Jedi Tony? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Some of us have been buying stocks before Stokskenya and Wazua came in to existence
tony stark wrote:
Horton,
You have a long way to go young padawan.
Stop falling for the baits.
he he!
Horton wrote:
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Amara ridge was handed over way back. Alma Phase 2 handed over in October
paulkimani wrote:
Even I am talking about today.

Alternative facts? ๐Ÿ˜‚

LITERALLY what Cytonn do. They sell off - plan which is JUST a concept. No physical building yet.

You pay them cash before the building has started construction or when it is just beginning. A promise of a cheaper price is given if bought before construction begins.

X gives money in 2019 before new notes

Building begins construction in Nov 2020. Voila you've also cleaned your dirty money. But what do I know.

"Cytonn. Cleaning your money since 2015."


PS - Please note I had said "Before the deadline person X hires a construction company and use that 50 million for advanced payment of the construction.


VituVingiSana wrote:
paulkimani wrote:
Government announces deadline to convert old notes.

Person X has 50 million kshs (in old 1000 notes) under the bed - perhaps a few under the table deals. He canโ€™t change the money because his salary and taxes wonโ€™t match his wealth with the under the table deals.

No law says you canโ€™t pay construction companies with physical cash.

Before the deadline, person X hires a construction company and use that 50 million for advanced payment of the construction.

Now itโ€™s up to the construction company, who obtained the money legally to change the old 1000. This wonโ€™t raise a red flag.

But what do I know.
That deadline passed about a year ago!
I understand the context about the buildings that were bring built in 2019 but I am talking about today (Nov 2020).





Even bought the AOL (Kenya) shares. African Lakes or something like that. Tears. d'oh!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
tony stark
#1012 Posted : Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:59:25 PM
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Joined: 7/8/2008
Posts: 947
And you are still here!!!
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
VituVingiSana wrote:
tony stark wrote:
As a dial up user of Formnet kenya and Africa Online tuko wengi hapa!!

[quote=Horton]So this made my Saturday. And you are the Jedi Tony? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Some of us have been buying stocks before Stokskenya and Wazua came in to existence [quote=tony stark]Horton,
You have a long way to go young padawan.
Stop falling for the baits.
he he!
[quote=Horton]๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Amara ridge was handed over way back. Alma Phase 2 handed over in October [quote=paulkimani]Even I am talking about today.

Alternative facts? ๐Ÿ˜‚


Even bought the AOL (Kenya) shares. African Lakes or something like that. Tears. d'oh!

VituVingiSana
#1013 Posted : Friday, November 20, 2020 12:47:36 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
tony stark wrote:
And you are still here!!!
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
VituVingiSana wrote:
tony stark wrote:
As a dial up user of Formnet kenya and Africa Online tuko wengi hapa!!

[quote=Horton]So this made my Saturday. And you are the Jedi Tony? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Some of us have been buying stocks before Stokskenya and Wazua came in to existence [quote=tony stark]Horton,
You have a long way to go young padawan.
Stop falling for the baits.
he he!
[quote=Horton]๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Amara ridge was handed over way back. Alma Phase 2 handed over in October [quote=paulkimani]Even I am talking about today.

Alternative facts? ๐Ÿ˜‚


Even bought the AOL (Kenya) shares. African Lakes or something like that. Tears. d'oh!

Lucky for me it wasn't the only investment. Some eg Access paid off but I was in and out of it a number of times. Finally got lucky with nice buyout price. Applause Applause Applause http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...px?g=posts&m=414176
Tech is different from other businesses and harder for me to evaluate. Also easier to be conned as we saw with African Lakes.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
paulkimani
#1014 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 10:52:40 AM
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Posts: 204
https://twitter.com/miam...331851209536385029?s=21

The news reporter canโ€™t hold back her frustration from all the lies
Balaa
#1015 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 12:19:50 PM
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Joined: 7/6/2018
Posts: 175
Location: Kinshasa
As a neutral observer in matters Cytonn, I wish to state that it is wrong to equate payment of a dividend to redemption of a debt product - the analogy by the Cytonn guy is twisted. This is Finance 101; dividend is payable to owners of a business and its proposition is at the discretion of the Board of Directors, whereas redemption of a debt instrument is an obligation that cannot be shelved. The guy is comparing apples and oranges.
If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense
Horton
#1016 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 2:33:55 PM
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Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
Balaa wrote:
As a neutral observer in matters Cytonn, I wish to state that it is wrong to equate payment of a dividend to redemption of a debt product - the analogy by the Cytonn guy is twisted. This is Finance 101; dividend is payable to owners of a business and its proposition is at the discretion of the Board of Directors, whereas redemption of a debt instrument is an obligation that cannot be shelved. The guy is comparing apples and oranges.



It wasnโ€™t dividend payment=interest. He was merely stating that things are thick all over. Hear the whole thing.

PK you โ€œwasteโ€ so much of your time and efforts in this thing on Wazua, on twitter Facebook etc for someone that has nothing to gain or lose.

paulkimani
#1017 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2020 5:16:51 PM
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Joined: 1/19/2016
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Horton wrote:
Balaa wrote:
As a neutral observer in matters Cytonn, I wish to state that it is wrong to equate payment of a dividend to redemption of a debt product - the analogy by the Cytonn guy is twisted. This is Finance 101; dividend is payable to owners of a business and its proposition is at the discretion of the Board of Directors, whereas redemption of a debt instrument is an obligation that cannot be shelved. The guy is comparing apples and oranges.



It wasnโ€™t dividend payment=interest. He was merely stating that things are thick all over. Hear the whole thing.

PK you โ€œwasteโ€ so much of your time and efforts in this thing on Wazua, on twitter Facebook etc for someone that has nothing to gain or lose.



Edwin, almighty CEO, please donโ€™t fire your employee on TV. He was trying his best to keep interrupting the reporter to say everything you told him to say. The economy isnโ€™t good at the moment, letโ€™s not fire yet another cytonn employee over your quick temper.
paulkimani
#1018 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2020 7:46:21 PM
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Posts: 204
https://www.google.co.uk...ear-loss-1213518/%3famp

Centum sinks into a Ksh.2 billion half-year loss

Following the slump into loss making, Centumโ€™s basic earnings per share has fallen to a negative Ksh.2.09 from a higher Ksh.10.70 last year

Well, well. Whoโ€™s next.
Angelica _ann
#1019 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2020 9:45:44 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
paulkimani wrote:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/citizentv.co.ke/business/centum-sinks-into-a-ksh-2-billion-half-year-loss-1213518/%3famp

Centum sinks into a Ksh.2 billion half-year loss

Following the slump into loss making, Centumโ€™s basic earnings per share has fallen to a negative Ksh.2.09 from a higher Ksh.10.70 last year

Well, well. Whoโ€™s next.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly yawa!!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
paulkimani
#1020 Posted : Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:55:06 AM
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Posts: 204
Britam 2020 half-year net LOSS hit Ksh 1.63 billion.

They say the pandemic has affected vital business areas of the company, including real estate.

https://kenyanwallstreet...https://t.co/vYa0sVI6t4

Well, well, over to you Cytonn

โ€œCytonn. Cleaning peoples money since 2015โ€
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