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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos  What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/20/2008 Posts: 503
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Truth is he doesn't know the questions despite them being asked. He most definitely has no answer. Love is blind..ama KW 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,221 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,808 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,221 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Shindwe
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Technically, the value of "minority shareholding" is zero. KQ was bankrupt [liabilities > assets] before the Debt Conversion at very generous terms considering the NAV was negative. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,221 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Technically, the value of "minority shareholding" is zero. KQ was bankrupt [liabilities > assets] before the Debt Conversion at very generous terms considering the NAV was negative. Oh. It should be zero? but apparently the last time I checked KQ was trading at KES 10.5. Far from zero
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,221 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Technically, the value of "minority shareholding" is zero. KQ was bankrupt [liabilities > assets] before the Debt Conversion at very generous terms considering the NAV was negative. Oh. It should be zero? but apparently the last time I checked KQ was trading at KES 10.5. Far from zero
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:@pesanane here is a clear repost of the build up to the Open Offer manenos What does this mean? Is KQLC being issued more shares? At what price? Can KQLC sell these shares on the open market? Mandatorily Convertible Loan Agreement.. www.winda.co.ke/kq.php Please answer the questions, if you know the answers, instead of trying to get us to give you our details. Of what help would your details be to me? Don't be lazy, just read the circular.. It's obvious that new shares are being issued at KES 8.52.. That's part of the plan to completely reduce the debt profile of KQ liabilities as backed by GoK guarantee 1) Your link wanted me to register on your website. 2) It's not obvious at what price the shares are being issued. There was a convoluted process earlier of "deferred shares" that were useless. And if you do not want to answer the questions, just say so... Individual/retail shareholders holding is being diluted further. Kq should just be made private with shareholders as KQ lenders and Gok Technically, the value of "minority shareholding" is zero. KQ was bankrupt [liabilities > assets] before the Debt Conversion at very generous terms considering the NAV was negative. Oh. It should be zero? but apparently the last time I checked KQ was trading at KES 10.5. Far from zero So what was KQ's NAV/share before the Bailout by GoK and KQLC? And ARM is trading at 3/- and was much a month ago. Uchumi and NBK are in similar straits. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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