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Zain receives HALF A MILLION NEW SUBSCRIBERS in one week
stocksguru7
#91 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:38:36 PM
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even if zain makes free calls all day and whole night i am not shifting , these are the last kicks of a dying horse , just let the subscriber numbers back me up ,lets talk after 6 months if zain has not packed up shop and left kenya for good
UN PACTUM UN DICTUM
Much Know
#92 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:43:22 PM
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Latest CCK Statistics released yesterday if unregistered lines were switched off on 30th August

1. Safaricom 13.2million registered users (81% of what it claims)
2. Zain Kenya 1.39 Million registered users (67% of what it claims)
3. Orange 250,000
4. Yu 445,000

Total 15.285 Million lines
Market Share by Registered Lines (Unregistered lines will be switched off) as at 25th August 2010

1. Safaricom = 83.6%
2. Zain = 9.09%
3. Yu = 2.9%
4. Orange = 1.6%

From the above, majority of Zain (as well as YU and Orange) subscribers are therefore literally Safaricom subscribers as most of the people they call are on Safaricom, meaning any call under 1min 15sec under old rates up to September 2nd (Hallo! Sema? Uko wapi? Okay nakuja, ningoje hapo nyuma ile mti sawa, and blah blah, blah?) Is Safaricom money (4.2/-), and any call under 45seconds at new rates (2.2/-).

I have previously operated three GSM sim cards, and one CDMA telkom, apart from buying “promotion” sims loaded with more airtime than their cost which I usually bought enough of made calls and discarded when units run out. I have operated Safaricom (For most calls, Safcom to Safcom), Zain to Zain, and Orange for my Safaricom modem, their internet is cheaper.

I did not register my Zain as it no longer has any value as I call Zain at the same rate as my Safaricom 3/-, and Safcom to Safcom is 2/- , I keep my Telkom Orange because it is a different type of phone and I get cheaper landline calls 2/-, through it.
Ras Kienyeji Man
mv_ufanisi
#93 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:52:54 PM
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ken1979 wrote:
My people, our customers,

I beg to bow out. I am staying with Safaricom!


SCOM P.R. BS.
SCOM had their chance and they blew it. Kenyans are much smarter now and will go to the network that gives them value. SCOM has lost so much credibility.

The nail in the coffin will be when Zain Kenya does an IPO and the share actually goes up. In stead of the SCOM rip-off which only enriched Mobitelea and Vodafon. I don't care if Zain is run by martians as long as they give me the best value.
SCOM has been a rip off - most of their contracts actually go to British firms. So there's no patriotism there either. Just PR in Green.
KulaRaha
#94 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:57:42 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Latest CCK Statistics released yesterday if unregistered lines were switched off on 30th August

1. Safaricom 13.2million registered users (81% of what it claims)
2. Zain Kenya 1.39 Million registered users (67% of what it claims)
3. Orange 250,000
4. Yu 445,000

Total 15.285 Million lines
Market Share by Registered Lines (Unregistered lines will be switched off) as at 25th August 2010

1. Safaricom = 83.6%
2. Zain = 9.09%
3. Yu = 2.9%
4. Orange = 1.6%



Now these are telling numbers, and prob true reflection of Safcon dominance in this market.

You can see someone like Zain has really nothing to lose....drop rates to 3 bob or even 1 bob, it wont have much short-term impact on p&l for them, but may help boost that miserable 9% market share.

Its dangerous to have an enemy who has nothing to lose...
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
Much Know
#95 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:01:14 PM
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@MV, Zains problem is hiring and keeping an incompetent CEO, why focus on Safaricom and not your product? Why does every thing you do with your product target Safaricom (either to hurt it profits copy its product, or insult it) rather than focus on the customer. Why can't Zain (and it's fans) not complete a single sentence without implying something about Safaricom? Zain should get a competent CEO and focus on developing a good unique product with its own niche. I can make a much better CEo than what they have there, why don't they recruit me?
Ras Kienyeji Man
Tito44
#96 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:02:38 PM
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As Kenyans we have failed to see the big picture. If Zain loses, we all lose, since call charges will go back to Ksh. 8. Safaricom is only running a promotion to stop zain from increasing the numbers. How i wish people would continue acquiring more zain lines so that there is competition, hence lower calling rates.

There is no need of being a die-hard when in the end, you are the sufferer.
Tito44
#97 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:08:28 PM
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@Much Know
My focus is on me as the client. Whether Zain targets Safaricom or vice versa is not a concern for me. I simply need affordable calling rates. Just imagine what the new rates will do to business. You can now even afford kupiga bei kwa simu.

Let's get real. This is not ManU Vs Arsenal where all we do is entertain ourselves. This has to do with bettering our lives. And if that involves Zain going after Safaricom, or vice versa, so be it.
Much Know
#98 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:09:08 PM
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Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,579
@Tito, Zain is suiciding, no one wants to see a viable business collapse, but when a CEO drives a company down a path to self destruction and people cheer! Hey! we are getting calls at -ve rates men! what can one do, no sympathies, for me, IT"S STRICTLY BUSINESS

By the way, when you talk of the bigger picture, sound business practice makes an economy thrive, reckless business practices destroy good business and are bad for the Economy, getting unrealistically cheap calls is NOT GOOD FOR YOU IN THE BIGGER PICTURE
Ras Kienyeji Man
selah
#99 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:56:26 PM
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Joined: 10/13/2009
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Location: in kenya
Much Know wrote:
@MV, Zains problem is hiring and keeping an incompetent CEO, why focus on Safaricom and not your product? Why does every thing you do with your product target Safaricom (either to hurt it profits copy its product, or insult it) rather than focus on the customer. Why can't Zain (and it's fans) not complete a single sentence without implying something about Safaricom? Zain should get a competent CEO and focus on developing a good unique product with its own niche. I can make a much better CEo than what they have there, why don't they recruit me?


Applause Applause Applause I have always wondered why they keep attacking safaricom whenever they launch their products.If its not putting safaricom colours in their adverts its the CEO publicly attacking safaricom.

By doing this they are acknowledging safaricoms dominance and who would want an underdog service.

Every advert they launch they give safaricom undue publicity on the process.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
VituVingiSana
#100 Posted : Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:01:16 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
Long Live Zain/Airtel... Coz safCON would have never dropped charges if not for Zain... So I support Zain...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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