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murchr wrote:
We should learn from the past and move on to build a better future. Dwelling on the past is and will never be of any importance.
If your problems were caused by Moi and you still languishing on those problems then you are the problem life happened and its happening. Do you think SK Macharia dwelt on the disappointments he got in the Moi govt? Heck the guy doesn't even like Uhuru but he doesn't dwell on it. Sasa after yapping all day and night what changed?
Isn't it funny how people always choose one positive example while ignoring all the other scenarios that went badly? There were many people who died at the hands of Moi's goons. Lets take Tito Adungosi for example. A promising Architecture student who was jailed after the 1982 coup because he was SONU leader. He died mysteriously in custody. His family was not even informed. Months later they went to pick up his body and by then he was not even recognizable. If you met his mother, would you tell her to stop crying over spilt milk ? Would you ask her to move on like SK Macharia? She invested her life savings educating Tito, only for Moi's thugs to torture and kill him. Then she was traumatized by not even getting a chance to give Tito a decent burial. But murchr doesn't care. He will tel that woman to accept and move on. And I am not dwelling on the past. I am just sick of this rubbish Kenyan culture of heaping praise on our leaders and ignoring their misdeeds. It is one of the reasons we are a sheet-hole. We keep electing poor leaders because we whitewash the past. When we mourn people we must tell the truth
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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... and because we did not learn from The Error, we continue languishing in The Error... Quote:Antics Of The History
Over lunch at the Nairobi Boulevard Hotel, Chesire gave me background to that story.
He told me that when Moi was vice-president and Biwott his personal assistant (PA), the latter used to complain aloud that people in Mount Kenya region, and those in Nandi, Kericho, and Uasin Gishu districts, had no respect for the VP (allegedly) because they had money.
“Rich people don’t obey and have no regard for authority,” Biwott used to complain.
Chesire recalled one evening at Eldoret Sirikwa Hotel when Biwott unleashed in a torrent of anger.
“You people have no respect for us because you have money and we don’t!
Wait until we get to power and we make the donkey catch up with the horse!”
He told me that was the “philosophy” behind the killing of the KFA, a fate that would soon befall other institutions and individual enterprises where there was money that the “system” — rather the “boss” — didn’t control.
Henceforth, it was the “boss” — also called HEDAM — who would decide which Kenyan should have money in the pocket and how much — and the “boss” would take it away when he felt like it!
For that to happen, not just KFA but any other enabler institution that put money in farmers’ pockets, was hauled to the guillotine.
That included, among others, the Kenya Co-operative Creameries (KCC), Kenya Planters Co-operative Union (KPCU), Kenya Tea Development Authority (KTDA), Pyrethrum Board, Cotton Board, Agricultural Finance Corporation (AFC), Agricultural Development Corporation (ADC), all sugar factories, and the Pan-African Paper Mills.
Then followed the turn for individual enterprises to be sabotaged into bankruptcy.
Among the most remembered cases were indigenous-owned banks and financial institutions forced to close shop in the mid-1980s: Madhupaper International, fronted by media mogul S.K. Macharia, and an indigenous giant conglomerate called JK Kalinga Industries.
At about that time, five indigenous entrepreneurs' bid to purchase the local franchise of the US tyre-manufacturer Firestone was sabotaged by the “system” at the last minute and the business bought by the “big man” and his associates.
Repeating The Antics Of The History
Jubilee Alliance’s ‘Tuko Pamoja’ sloganeering and the white-shirts/red-ties PR razzmatazz, is all well known.
What is not known is how the two camps that could not see eye-to-eye in 2007 suddenly came together in 2012.
Behind the scenes was deceit, brinkmanship and, yes, blackmail.
SUCCESSION WAR
It is a bizarre, untold story best understood when you get to know how the Jubilee “brothers” financed the blitzkrieg that had the coalition win 2013 election — against all odds.
A huge chunk of the campaign war chest came from one faction in the coalition.
A little also came from notorious wheeler-dealers.
The deal, as negotiated, was that the faction with bigger financial muscle — thanks to old family money — would get the “big seat” but the other faction would be given Cabinet portfolios where there is “meat” — not just “bones” — so that they, too, would have something of their “own” come 2017 and beyond.
That was the condition put for the “donkey” in Jubilee to agree to travel same road with the “horse”.
It is also where the 10/10 deal, disowned by Jubilee vice-chairman David Murathe, was sealed. Apparently, he had dashed out to the washrooms when that happened! source link: https://www.nation.co.ke...21352-lhg9lxz/index.html
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 564 Location: Britain
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[quote=aemathenge]... and because we did not learn from The Error, we continue languishing in The Error... Quote:Antics Of The History
Over lunch at the Nairobi Boulevard Hotel, Chesire gave me background to that story.
He told me that when Moi was vice-president and Biwott his personal assistant (PA), the latter used to complain aloud that people in Mount Kenya region, and those in Nandi, Kericho, and Uasin Gishu districts, had no respect for the VP (allegedly) because they had money.
“Rich people don’t obey and have no regard for authority,” Biwott used to complain.
Chesire recalled one evening at Eldoret Sirikwa Hotel when Biwott unleashed in a torrent of anger.
“You people have no respect for us because you have money and we don’t!
Wait until we get to power and we make the donkey catch up with the horse!”
He told me that was the “philosophy” behind the killing of the KFA, a fate that would soon befall other institutions and individual enterprises where there was money that the “system” — rather the “boss” — didn’t control.
Henceforth, it was the “boss” — also called HEDAM — who would decide which Kenyan should have money in the pocket and how much — and the “boss” would take it away when he felt like it!
For that to happen, not just KFA but any other enabler institution that put money in farmers’ pockets, was hauled to the guillotine.
That included, among others, the Kenya Co-operative Creameries (KCC), Kenya Planters Co-operative Union (KPCU), Kenya Tea Development Authority (KTDA), Pyrethrum Board, Cotton Board, Agricultural Finance Corporation (AFC), Agricultural Development Corporation (ADC), all sugar factories, and the Pan-African Paper Mills.
Then followed the turn for individual enterprises to be sabotaged into bankruptcy.
Among the most remembered cases were indigenous-owned banks and financial institutions forced to close shop in the mid-1980s: Madhupaper International, fronted by media mogul S.K. Macharia, and an indigenous giant conglomerate called JK Kalinga Industries.
At about that time, five indigenous entrepreneurs' bid to purchase the local franchise of the US tyre-manufacturer Firestone was sabotaged by the “system” at the last minute and the business bought by the “big man” and his associates.
Repeating The Antics Of The History
Jubilee Alliance’s ‘Tuko Pamoja’ sloganeering and the white-shirts/red-ties PR razzmatazz, is all well known.
What is not known is how the two camps that could not see eye-to-eye in 2007 suddenly came together in 2012.
Behind the scenes was deceit, brinkmanship and, yes, blackmail.
SUCCESSION WAR
It is a bizarre, untold story best understood when you get to know how the Jubilee “brothers” financed the blitzkrieg that had the coalition win 2013 election — against all odds.
A huge chunk of the campaign war chest came from one faction in the coalition.
A little also came from notorious wheeler-dealers.
The deal, as negotiated, was that the faction with bigger financial muscle — thanks to old family money — would get the “big seat” but the other faction would be given Cabinet portfolios where there is “meat” — not just “bones” — so that they, too, would have something of their “own” come 2017 and beyond.
That was the condition put for the “donkey” in Jubilee to agree to travel same road with the “horse”.
It is also where the 10/10 deal, disowned by Jubilee vice-chairman David Murathe, was sealed. Apparently, he had dashed out to the washrooms when that happened! source link: https://www.nation.co.ke...1352-lhg9lxz/index.html[/quote] Reading that article is more depressing than reading Covid-19 news.Who will save Kenya?
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Queen wrote:
Reading that article is more depressing than reading Covid-19 news.Who will save Kenya?
The people will save the country if they become issue oriented instead of tribe oriented. Educated people should not allow leaders to keep misleading them into tribal voting.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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radiomast wrote:Queen wrote:
Reading that article is more depressing than reading Covid-19 news.Who will save Kenya?
The people will save the country if they become issue oriented instead of tribe oriented. Educated people should not allow leaders to keep misleading them into tribal voting. This "Wanjinga Sisi" issue is deeper than "Tribe". In my own county, Martha Versus Waiguru brought this out clearly. Something much deeper is at play than "mere" tribe.
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aemathenge wrote:radiomast wrote:Queen wrote:
Reading that article is more depressing than reading Covid-19 news.Who will save Kenya?
The people will save the country if they become issue oriented instead of tribe oriented. Educated people should not allow leaders to keep misleading them into tribal voting. This "Wanjinga Sisi" issue is deeper than "Tribe". In my own county, Martha Versus Waiguru brought this out clearly. Something much deeper is at play than "mere" tribe. Well said.
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Lolest! wrote:aemathenge wrote:radiomast wrote:Queen wrote:
Reading that article is more depressing than reading Covid-19 news.Who will save Kenya?
The people will save the country if they become issue oriented instead of tribe oriented. Educated people should not allow leaders to keep misleading them into tribal voting. This "Wanjinga Sisi" issue is deeper than "Tribe". In my own county, Martha Versus Waiguru brought this out clearly. Something much deeper is at play than "mere" tribe. Well said. Kurogwo Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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aemathenge wrote:radiomast wrote:Queen wrote:
Reading that article is more depressing than reading Covid-19 news.Who will save Kenya?
The people will save the country if they become issue oriented instead of tribe oriented. Educated people should not allow leaders to keep misleading them into tribal voting. This "Wanjinga Sisi" issue is deeper than "Tribe". In my own county, Martha Versus Waiguru brought this out clearly. Something much deeper is at play than "mere" tribe. I agree with you that there are many factors one of which is that our culture is rotten. Senior govt officials who haven't enriched themselves are despised by many people. I remember when Igathe resigned in 2018. He did the right thing. But people went on TV and criticized him eti politically he had done the wrong thing. Others online said he should have just taken the money. We have a rotten culture.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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In 2014, the Prime Minister of South Korea resigned due to his governments slow response to the ferry disaster. This culture of accountability might explain why South Korea and Kenya had the same GDP per capita in the early 1960s and now South Korea's GDP per capita is 20 times Kenya's. Culture of Accountability vs Culture of impunity. Thats why Kenya is stuck in first gear since 1963.
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