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Amores
#91 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 5:58:25 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
murchr wrote:
heri wrote:
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
I don't get this 'winner takes all' talk.

So should a losing football teams earn one point while the winner gets two instead of all three?

What we need is equitable distribution of resources not sharing positions.


The lamu governor got 60,000 votes. The government provides him with vehicles, security for his family and home and all the trappings of power.

Rao got 6M votes. The current constitution says he should go home. It is like telling those 6M voters to go to hell. Ruto will get at least 3M in 2022. BBI has proposed an office for the leader of opposition funded by the taxpayer. The millions who vote for the runner-up should feel their voice was heard.



Hillary Clinton got more votes than Trump but she obeyed the constitution went home and doesn't disturb anyone. Baba should do the same, the 6m can vote otherwise in subsequent elections. We need to take a loss as an opportunity to reevaluate and realign. Its not a right to be elected, its the choice of the people to elect or not to


And the elected government is supposed to serve all Kenyans and not just those who elected the winner.


Ofcourse


Damn You Guys Are On Fire.

Wazua Sitoki Ng'u



Nground iko aje huko kwa Governor Waiguru?
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Amores
#92 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:38:48 PM
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The side ya Uhuru na Raila inataka referendum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH7d3U33E-4
I am happy
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Thitifini
#93 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 8:02:23 PM
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The furthest I've read the document so far, I'd say this BBI team know what they are recommending.

So far read, I'm in support 100%.

If Jupileans implement just the 50% in the remaining 3yrs, I can live with their bad policies so far and future PM Dualesmile.

60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
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Fyatu
#94 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 8:41:08 PM
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Amores wrote:


Ruto will not oppose, i think all his troops want is to avoid a referendum because then he will be forced to take sides. Thats why they are talking about a process through parliament.

Let's wait and see how it goes.



Baba and Uhuru in their speeches said that it is the mwananchi who will decide. I think even Mudavadi was of the same opinion. There is no other way for mwananchi to decide other than the referendum.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Taurrus
#95 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 8:42:45 PM
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Amores wrote:
The side ya Uhuru na Raila inataka referendum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH7d3U33E-4


Their plan is very open! Hata mtoto can't be trapped. This is same Rails who put us through a second election that he never participated despite the cost to the country. Referendum alipe mwenyewe!
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aemathenge
#96 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 8:46:13 PM
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Amores wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
murchr wrote:
heri wrote:
murchr wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
I don't get this 'winner takes all' talk.

So should a losing football teams earn one point while the winner gets two instead of all three?

What we need is equitable distribution of resources not sharing positions.


The lamu governor got 60,000 votes. The government provides him with vehicles, security for his family and home and all the trappings of power.

Rao got 6M votes. The current constitution says he should go home. It is like telling those 6M voters to go to hell. Ruto will get at least 3M in 2022. BBI has proposed an office for the leader of opposition funded by the taxpayer. The millions who vote for the runner-up should feel their voice was heard.



Hillary Clinton got more votes than Trump but she obeyed the constitution went home and doesn't disturb anyone. Baba should do the same, the 6m can vote otherwise in subsequent elections. We need to take a loss as an opportunity to reevaluate and realign. Its not a right to be elected, its the choice of the people to elect or not to


And the elected government is supposed to serve all Kenyans and not just those who elected the winner.


Ofcourse


Damn You Guys Are On Fire.

Wazua Sitoki Ng'u



Nground iko aje huko kwa Governor Waiguru?


Nground is busy harvesting rice and all the hullabaloo involved.

Once the crop is out of the field, Nground will revisit.

Otherwise, keyboard warriors and mblogas are busy doing their thing depending on the Frenemy paymistress.
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murchr
#97 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 8:48:03 PM
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Mkajua hii serikali haina pesa govt offices are loaning each other petrol. It's bad people, referendum unless if it will be financed by some donor, it's dead as a dodo. Ama ifanywe 2022 same time as elections.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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newfarer
#98 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:03:03 PM
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murchr wrote:
Mkajua hii serikali haina pesa govt offices are loaning each other petrol. It's bad people, referendum unless if it will be financed by some donor, it's dead as a dodo. Ama ifanywe 2022 same time as elections.


And kra is literally killing broke businesses with attaching their bank accounts.I have heard this from several businesses .if They attach businesses it means the business closes shop

Where does these government offices think the money comes from if they continue killing businesses rather than promoting them.

Kra should support businesses back to their feet as long as the businesses are not showing mischief in complying
punda amecheka
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kaka2za
#99 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2019 11:48:16 PM
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You don't need a political office to be a leader.
RAO's dad influenced Luo Nyanza politics for decades when he had been banished from KANU.

Does being an MP make Ndindi Nyoro a better Leader than James Mwangi?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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murchr
#100 Posted : Friday, November 29, 2019 9:49:05 AM
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Did you hear Kalonzo say that PM post is matharau because it doesn't have more money than the local parliamentarians? I cry for Wanjiku
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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