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Jus Blazin
#181 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:34:59 PM
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Kimaiyo RESIGNS!
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
jaggernaut
#182 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:35:41 PM
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BREAKING: Kimaiyo has resigned....cites personal matters...
harrydre
#183 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:37:38 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Is this the correct order of events?

IG Kimaiyo to address from Vigilance House..
President Uhuru to address from State House..


Something bigger could be cooking.

Meanwhile, 47 Al Shabaab armoured vehicles seen going towards the Kenyan border - Somali sources.



IG Kimaiyo quits service following Mandera attack.



Difficult job. Let's see if there will be any change.
i.am.back!!!!
washiku
#184 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:38:15 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
BREAKING: Kimaiyo has resigned....cites personal matters...


Personal in deed. Good riddance.
MKWASI
#185 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:39:18 PM
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alma wrote:
Swenani wrote:
MKWASI wrote:
Someone needs to study terrorism. We have terrorism owners. The owners are beneficiaries of terrorism activities. We need to deal with the owners not the symptoms.


Ofcourse world over there are terrorism owners,the owners and beneficiaries in Kenya are alshabaabs.

IOUN,I know what you are trying to imply and its pathetic!


6 more minutes to 2pm. be a bit ore patient


@alma...

You always remind me of the words of my good friend Dr. Mukhisa to Cotu supremo. Each of your post confirms our worst fears.








Swenani
#186 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:40:39 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
BREAKING: Kimaiyo has resigned....cites Incompetency...

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
jaggernaut
#187 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:41:59 PM
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Ole lenku fired, replaced by Nkaissery ....
Jus Blazin
#188 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:42:36 PM
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Nkaissery to be new Internal Security CS. Ole Ndengu out!
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
ecstacy
#189 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:43:08 PM
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harrydre wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Is this the correct order of events?

IG Kimaiyo to address from Vigilance House..
President Uhuru to address from State House..


Something bigger could be cooking.

Meanwhile, 47 Al Shabaab armoured vehicles seen going towards the Kenyan border - Somali sources.



IG Kimaiyo quits service following Mandera attack.



Difficult job. Let's see if there will be any change.


Better option in terms of time and urgent tasking - to the President having to constitute a tribunal.

He cannot blame his boss for lack of support.
streetwise
#190 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:43:45 PM
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I salute the guy if other incompetemt fellows can follow suit Kenya would wake up again and be counted among great nations
Swenani
#191 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:46:24 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
harrydre wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Is this the correct order of events?

IG Kimaiyo to address from Vigilance House..
President Uhuru to address from State House..


Something bigger could be cooking.

Meanwhile, 47 Al Shabaab armoured vehicles seen going towards the Kenyan border - Somali sources.



IG Kimaiyo quits service following Mandera attack.



Difficult job. Let's see if there will be any change.


Better option in terms of time and urgent tasking - to the President having to constitute a tribunal.

He cannot blame his boss for lack of support.


Yeah, he has saved Kenyans time!!!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
jaggernaut
#192 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:49:01 PM
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ecstacy
#193 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:49:44 PM
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Swenani wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
harrydre wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Is this the correct order of events?

IG Kimaiyo to address from Vigilance House..
President Uhuru to address from State House..


Something bigger could be cooking.

Meanwhile, 47 Al Shabaab armoured vehicles seen going towards the Kenyan border - Somali sources.



IG Kimaiyo quits service following Mandera attack.



Difficult job. Let's see if there will be any change.


Better option in terms of time and urgent tasking - to the President having to constitute a tribunal.

He cannot blame his boss for lack of support.


Yeah, he has saved Kenyans time!!!


Presidential influence..
jokes
#194 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:50:58 PM
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First let me say pole to the families of the ones we have lost. That was unjust.

Secondly i wonder why guys who work and live or have worked or lived in the remote regions of our country are NOT participating in this discussion??

I will not engage in the high octane politics of foreign powers involvement but i will contribute abit as one of the previous residents.

North eastern is a whole different country for those born in Down Kenya.

Citizens of this region refer to funding of public projects as being funded by the "Government of Kenya" or "World food program" etc.

Nurse and clinical officers head hospitals and in-case of serious ailment i advice rush as fast as you can to Nairobi. don't stop on the way.

In this region we have a truly unexploited wildlife a potential tourist haven.

The soil in some regions of mandera is red loam and very fertile.

Fruits grown on river dauwa are exceptionally sweet but are completely rotten-12 hours after harvest due to the heat.

The Somalis in Ethiopia, Mandera, Somalia are one and the same clans and one can go whichever direction they deem fit without being questioned as they are at home.

In this region Clans rule.

In this region you can go a whole 100km or 1 hour without seeing anyone.

Water is truly a precious commodity more valuable than Gold.

The weather is so hot that construction workers work from 5 to 12pm, rest in the tents during the hottest part of the day and then resume from 4 to 7pm.
At night they sleep in tents because no one will give them accommodation(we are unclean)or there is no accommodation.

Most of the construction work and heavy work is done by down Kenyans because Somalis are muscularly weak primarily due to lack of physical activity. most cannot even be able to lift a bus Tyre. This work is left to us due to our physical strength. Maybe this might explain the punda thing and the slavery.

Slaves (our forefathers were enslaved passed through this region to kismayu or other ports to Saudi Arabia. Evidence of this exists in mandera and other places they look like an ochieng, kamau or rono ) they are called tribeless. They are low class, lost and very poor.

From Garrissa to Mandera; roads as we know them; either as murrum, dirt,leave alone tarmac do not exist. Especially on the Lafey arabia road.

It takes approximately 2 to 3 days to travel from mandera to Nairobi with a brief rest over in wajir where a bed can be provided at a fee.

During the rainy season it can take approximately 5 days.

Most civil servants are sent there because they have no God father, money to pay their way out,or have disciplinary cases. its primarily a form of punishment.
This group forms a very cohesive group and have a grievous feeling of being abandoned. They can do anything to help each other to survive.

If you are a young man used to alcohol and women then you are doomed if you are posted to guard a remote section where the only person who can talk to you is the chief and the rest see you as a donkey. You cant talk to the women, drink beer or have a decent conversation in kiswahili.

A one way trip from mandera to Nairobi used to cost 2500/= during my time there.
For a cop a trip maybe to visit his family in western could wipe out his whole net salary of 10,000/= after deductions and most opted to send the money rather than make this useless trip.

Hence "animals" from Ethiopia and Somalia" come into play-Aid's.

This is a place as a down Kenyan you cannot do business with Somalis. first a Somali will buy from his family, then clan, then a fellow Somali, then a Muslim then lastly you.

This is where it get interesting; due to the isolation and financial difficulties the cops in this region actively engage in any means to earn an extra living. Examples abound;
-Kupitisha "mbuzi" (illegals) for a small fee,
-Contraband,
-Smuggled goods (a packet of cigarettes e.g sportsman used to cost 30/= sugar 30/= a kilo) etc.

During the off-days the cops i.e APs, normal cops, anti stock name it meet at Border point one. where after drinking stuff provided by baite go at each other like a scene from a western movie. chairs, bottles and all in a bid to vent their frustration.

and we want security. smile




Euge
#195 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 3:54:26 PM
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Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
The president should resign, he chairs the National Security Council and the whole security apparatus has failed!!!


Is the president African?

Sad

maybe he would if he name was Guy Scott!
Lord, thank you!
hindi ni riu
#196 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:11:50 PM
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Joined: 5/2/2010
Posts: 305
jokes wrote:
First let me say pole to the families of the ones we have lost. That was unjust.

Secondly i wonder why guys who work and live or have worked or lived in the remote regions of our country are NOT participating in this discussion??

I will not engage in the high octane politics of foreign powers involvement but i will contribute abit as one of the previous residents.

North eastern is a whole different country for those born in Down Kenya.

Citizens of this region refer to funding of public projects as being funded by the "Government of Kenya" or "World food program" etc.

Nurse and clinical officers head hospitals and in-case of serious ailment i advice rush as fast as you can to Nairobi. don't stop on the way.

In this region we have a truly unexploited wildlife a potential tourist haven.

The soil in some regions of mandera is red loam and very fertile.

Fruits grown on river dauwa are exceptionally sweet but are completely rotten-12 hours after harvest due to the heat.

The Somalis in Ethiopia, Mandera, Somalia are one and the same clans and one can go whichever direction they deem fit without being questioned as they are at home.

In this region Clans rule.

In this region you can go a whole 100km or 1 hour without seeing anyone.

Water is truly a precious commodity more valuable than Gold.

The weather is so hot that construction workers work from 5 to 12pm, rest in the tents during the hottest part of the day and then resume from 4 to 7pm.
At night they sleep in tents because no one will give them accommodation(we are unclean)or there is no accommodation.

Most of the construction work and heavy work is done by down Kenyans because Somalis are muscularly weak primarily due to lack of physical activity. most cannot even be able to lift a bus Tyre. This work is left to us due to our physical strength. Maybe this might explain the punda thing and the slavery.

Slaves (our forefathers were enslaved passed through this region to kismayu or other ports to Saudi Arabia. Evidence of this exists in mandera and other places they look like an ochieng, kamau or rono ) they are called tribeless. They are low class, lost and very poor.

From Garrissa to Mandera; roads as we know them; either as murrum, dirt,leave alone tarmac do not exist. Especially on the Lafey arabia road.

It takes approximately 2 to 3 days to travel from mandera to Nairobi with a brief rest over in wajir where a bed can be provided at a fee.

During the rainy season it can take approximately 5 days.

Most civil servants are sent there because they have no God father, money to pay their way out,or have disciplinary cases. its primarily a form of punishment.
This group forms a very cohesive group and have a grievous feeling of being abandoned. They can do anything to help each other to survive.

If you are a young man used to alcohol and women then you are doomed if you are posted to guard a remote section where the only person who can talk to you is the chief and the rest see you as a donkey. You cant talk to the women, drink beer or have a decent conversation in kiswahili.

A one way trip from mandera to Nairobi used to cost 2500/= during my time there.
For a cop a trip maybe to visit his family in western could wipe out his whole net salary of 10,000/= after deductions and most opted to send the money rather than make this useless trip.

Hence "animals" from Ethiopia and Somalia" come into play-Aid's.

This is a place as a down Kenyan you cannot do business with Somalis. first a Somali will buy from his family, then clan, then a fellow Somali, then a Muslim then lastly you.

This is where it get interesting; due to the isolation and financial difficulties the cops in this region actively engage in any means to earn an extra living. Examples abound;
-Kupitisha "mbuzi" (illegals) for a small fee,
-Contraband,
-Smuggled goods (a packet of cigarettes e.g sportsman used to cost 30/= sugar 30/= a kilo) etc.

During the off-days the cops i.e APs, normal cops, anti stock name it meet at Border point one. where after drinking stuff provided by baite go at each other like a scene from a western movie. chairs, bottles and all in a bid to vent their frustration.

and we want security. smile






d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Interesting. May be the "security experts" here @ Wazua republic should live there for a month and then come up with the "solutions" they shout out about.

“Once the last tree is cut and the last river poisoned,you will find you cannot eat your money" Traditional saying.
AlphDoti
#197 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:14:09 PM
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Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun ("Surely we belong to Allah and to Him shall we return")

I'm offering condolences to affected families. I pray to God, to lessen their pains and heal them fast.
washiku
#198 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:22:01 PM
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Posts: 13,095
dunkang wrote:


Would someone please do a timeline analysis between terror attacks and ICC appearances. #Just_Asking


Yet what was said when people said Uhuru should have come back from Dubai after the recent attack? smile
jokes
#199 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:45:19 PM
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Posts: 323
hindi ni riu wrote:
jokes wrote:
First let me say pole to the families of the ones we have lost. That was unjust.

Secondly i wonder why guys who work and live or have worked or lived in the remote regions of our country are NOT participating in this discussion??

I will not engage in the high octane politics of foreign powers involvement but i will contribute abit as one of the previous residents.

North eastern is a whole different country for those born in Down Kenya.

Citizens of this region refer to funding of public projects as being funded by the "Government of Kenya" or "World food program" etc.

Nurse and clinical officers head hospitals and in-case of serious ailment i advice rush as fast as you can to Nairobi. don't stop on the way.

In this region we have a truly unexploited wildlife a potential tourist haven.

The soil in some regions of mandera is red loam and very fertile.

Fruits grown on river dauwa are exceptionally sweet but are completely rotten-12 hours after harvest due to the heat.

The Somalis in Ethiopia, Mandera, Somalia are one and the same clans and one can go whichever direction they deem fit without being questioned as they are at home.

In this region Clans rule.

In this region you can go a whole 100km or 1 hour without seeing anyone.

Water is truly a precious commodity more valuable than Gold.

The weather is so hot that construction workers work from 5 to 12pm, rest in the tents during the hottest part of the day and then resume from 4 to 7pm.
At night they sleep in tents because no one will give them accommodation(we are unclean)or there is no accommodation.

Most of the construction work and heavy work is done by down Kenyans because Somalis are muscularly weak primarily due to lack of physical activity. most cannot even be able to lift a bus Tyre. This work is left to us due to our physical strength. Maybe this might explain the punda thing and the slavery.

Slaves (our forefathers were enslaved passed through this region to kismayu or other ports to Saudi Arabia. Evidence of this exists in mandera and other places they look like an ochieng, kamau or rono ) they are called tribeless. They are low class, lost and very poor.

From Garrissa to Mandera; roads as we know them; either as murrum, dirt,leave alone tarmac do not exist. Especially on the Lafey arabia road.

It takes approximately 2 to 3 days to travel from mandera to Nairobi with a brief rest over in wajir where a bed can be provided at a fee.

During the rainy season it can take approximately 5 days.

Most civil servants are sent there because they have no God father, money to pay their way out,or have disciplinary cases. its primarily a form of punishment.
This group forms a very cohesive group and have a grievous feeling of being abandoned. They can do anything to help each other to survive.

If you are a young man used to alcohol and women then you are doomed if you are posted to guard a remote section where the only person who can talk to you is the chief and the rest see you as a donkey. You cant talk to the women, drink beer or have a decent conversation in kiswahili.

A one way trip from mandera to Nairobi used to cost 2500/= during my time there.
For a cop a trip maybe to visit his family in western could wipe out his whole net salary of 10,000/= after deductions and most opted to send the money rather than make this useless trip.

Hence "animals" from Ethiopia and Somalia" come into play-Aid's.

This is a place as a down Kenyan you cannot do business with Somalis. first a Somali will buy from his family, then clan, then a fellow Somali, then a Muslim then lastly you.

This is where it get interesting; due to the isolation and financial difficulties the cops in this region actively engage in any means to earn an extra living. Examples abound;
-Kupitisha "mbuzi" (illegals) for a small fee,
-Contraband,
-Smuggled goods (a packet of cigarettes e.g sportsman used to cost 30/= sugar 30/= a kilo) etc.

During the off-days the cops i.e APs, normal cops, anti stock name it meet at Border point one. where after drinking stuff provided by baite go at each other like a scene from a western movie. chairs, bottles and all in a bid to vent their frustration.

and we want security. smile






d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Interesting. May be the "security experts" here @ Wazua republic should live there for a month and then come up with the "solutions" they shout out about.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
your name dude is funny.

You are right; but One month is too long.
I know of a doctor who went there and arrived in the morning he went crazy when he realized how remote the place was and had to be taken back home.
ecstacy
#200 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 6:33:08 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
ecstacy wrote:
Quick wins:

1. Replace the CS and IG with competent individuals from their respective communities to retain political stability as you seek performers. Partially done.

2. Introduce a Bill to alter the 2010 Constitution which strips the NIS of abilities to per-emptively act on intel. Draft a code of conduct to handle human rights concerns. National security will however precede all other interests.

3. Relocate the Daadab refugee camp. KDF man all entry and exit to Daadab and accord UNHCR a twelve month working period to ensure this happens.

4. Table the Homeland Security Bill in Parliament for review and adoption. Have Muslim leader representation via MPs in the House sit in an inter-party and denominational committee ahead of this. Move forward with recommendations. Enact heavily punitive laws. Any national joining a foreign force and engaging in acts of war against the state needs to be treated as a foreign combatant and will be subject to military court marshal law.

5. Have new and refresher anti-terror training for all security forces at the front of the fight against terror.

6. Have the Ministry of Immigration and Labour work heavily with NIS and all those foreign nationals from select backgrounds benefiting heavily from state tenders work as state collaborators for intel purposes.

7. Setup more military bases in the Northern Frontier as well as the Coast Province.

8. Enact a policy of collective punishment to individuals or groups benefiting from the proceeds of locals who are recipient of funding for fighting against the state.

9. Engage in economic impetus programs in the NE and Coast areas from devolution and national interests fronted by state friendly politicians from the affected areas.


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