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URP unsettled in Jubilee Govt - MP Keter
mawinder
#91 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:20:08 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
guru267 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Maybe Ruto was compromised by TNA. He no longer talks about 50:50, he talks about - the Gvt is ONE. Ruto was short-changed",


There is no mystery here!

How can they share 50:50 when Ruto will get 20 years at the top of GOK with 10 of those years as PORK?? UMK is actually the one who was short changed by getting only 10 years at the top!

A fair ratio should be 80:20 to cater for the 10 years Ruto will bombard us with Kalenjins as PORK!

Wewe genius , looking at that angle makes you understand why dp is taking it easy. He is also in class learning . His time is coming and when it comes we will support him fully, no 50=50.
Greed is what cost baba the top job in 2013, after 2002 baba was the hero but after greed took over , and started fighting , he squandered his chances of leadership.
What the dp is doing is exactly how moi did it in the 70s as the vp , just hang on and vumilia the storms and we all know what happened later.


Heheee! That remains to be seen. Guys will quickly front another Wa nyumba for the position me thinks



@Robinhood, This is unlikely as watu wa Nyumba needs a suitor with numbers. Any alliance outside RV is unworkable for them and will stick with WSR. My 2 cents but might be wrong!

Kikuyus can never support any other tribes more so Kalenjins who it is alleged burnt some people allegedly referred to as madoadoa in a church.
poundfoolish
#92 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:21:50 PM
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It will be grave for Uhunye to contemplate not passing the mantel to RV.
It cannot even be imagined. The amount of chaos that would arise from that is too much not to opt sharing power with a friend for just 10 years.

I for sure am certain he will hand it down to somebody in RV, just not to Ruto.

Ladies and gentlemen, your next president.

His Excellency G. M Kipsiele Towett

Practice that name, learn how it rolls in your tongues, get used to the sound of it in your ears.
alma
#93 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:26:03 PM
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I know very little about tribal alliances.

But I can assure you, with no fear of contradiction. The people from my gishagi will never vote for Ruto.

Hio ni ndoto ya URP.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Robinhood
#94 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:28:05 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
It will be grave for Uhunye to contemplate not passing the mantel to RV.
It cannot even be imagined. The amount of chaos that would arise from that is too much not to opt sharing power with a friend for just 10 years.

I for sure am certain he will hand it down to somebody in RV, just not to Ruto.

Ladies and gentlemen, your next president.

His Excellency G. M Kipsiele Towett

Practice that name, learn how it rolls in your tongues, get used to the sound of it in your ears.


Hi Poundy. Good stuff. Kipsiele Towett it is, AKA Gideon Moi. The sheeple wont tell the diff

But the problem is with the nyumba folks. They would soonber vote for WSR than for a MOI methinks
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
mawinder
#95 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:29:36 PM
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alma wrote:
I know very little about tribal alliances.

But I can assure you, with no fear of contradiction. The people from my gishagi will never vote for Ruto.

Hio ni ndoto ya URP.

Thanks for bringing out the fact clearly.Even the URP fellows know that and are building alliances elsewhere.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#96 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:38:37 PM
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But let's face it, the kalenjin have a very good deal in the current gava, they have 5 cabinet secretary positions including Finance, Energy,Agriculture. The gava ain't spending a coin without Ruto's knowledge. They have the IG and every other county commish or county police commander happens to be a kalenjin.

They are taking up several parastatal chairman and CEO posisitions including KenGen,KPC,KPLC,NSSF. etc.

They are equal to Kiuks and both are extremely overpresented in govt at the expense of every other community.

Seems Ruto negotiated a damn good deal for his folk
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
mpobiz
#97 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:40:57 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
It will be grave for Uhunye to contemplate not passing the mantel to RV.
It cannot even be imagined. The amount of chaos that would arise from that is too much not to opt sharing power with a friend for just 10 years.

I for sure am certain he will hand it down to somebody in RV, just not to Ruto.

Ladies and gentlemen, your next president.

His Excellency G. M Kipsiele Towett

Practice that name, learn how it rolls in your tongues, get used to the sound of it in your ears.

Let me take you back to the last constitutional referendum .
This man single handedly convinced a whole community to vote against a wave that was sweeping against them. They could even tell they won't win but the community stuck by him.
In the last election, he singlehandedly led a community to vote for a man from a community perceived to be from an enemy community.
I don't know how this man does it... but there's something about him.
I don't see any other kale leader matching that, not towett not Gideon
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
poundfoolish
#98 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:44:29 PM
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Robinhood wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
It will be grave for Uhunye to contemplate not passing the mantel to RV.
It cannot even be imagined. The amount of chaos that would arise from that is too much not to opt sharing power with a friend for just 10 years.

I for sure am certain he will hand it down to somebody in RV, just not to Ruto.

Ladies and gentlemen, your next president.

His Excellency G. M Kipsiele Towett

Practice that name, learn how it rolls in your tongues, get used to the sound of it in your ears.


Hi Poundy. Good stuff. Kipsiele Towett it is, AKA Gideon Moi. The sheeple wont tell the diff

But the problem is with the nyumba folks. They would soonber vote for WSR than for a MOI methinks


It will be 20 years since the Mois the generation that is there will not even know what we are talking about when we say 'Kanu days'

And think about it. Who will dare revolt when Kamwana, then an old statesman, says vote for Kipsiele?

Can you imagine the money and state resources between the two houses?
Any signs of no support would mean a harsh backlash in the valley. while another prince there would remind them of the good old days when man Toro was CIC..
Our fates n futures are sealed. unless Kipsiele is not interested and other forces come into play.I see it all mapped out.
poundfoolish
#99 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:48:46 PM
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mpobiz wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
It will be grave for Uhunye to contemplate not passing the mantel to RV.
It cannot even be imagined. The amount of chaos that would arise from that is too much not to opt sharing power with a friend for just 10 years.

I for sure am certain he will hand it down to somebody in RV, just not to Ruto.

Ladies and gentlemen, your next president.

His Excellency G. M Kipsiele Towett

Practice that name, learn how it rolls in your tongues, get used to the sound of it in your ears.

Let me take you back to the last constitutional referendum .
This man single handedly convinced a whole community to vote against a wave that was sweeping against them. They could even tell they won't win but the community stuck by him.
In the last election, he singlehandedly led a community to vote for a man from a community perceived to be from an enemy community.
I don't know how this man does it... but there's something about him.
I don't see any other kale leader matching that, not towett not Gideon


That is because the fate of the Kalenjin nation lay in the guy.
The powers that be also let him move and meander freely. See where that whole scenario delivered him and his followers? in the hands of the real royal blue bloods...

mawinder
#100 Posted : Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:49:08 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
It will be grave for Uhunye to contemplate not passing the mantel to RV.
It cannot even be imagined. The amount of chaos that would arise from that is too much not to opt sharing power with a friend for just 10 years.

I for sure am certain he will hand it down to somebody in RV, just not to Ruto.

Ladies and gentlemen, your next president.

His Excellency G. M Kipsiele Towett

Practice that name, learn how it rolls in your tongues, get used to the sound of it in your ears.


Hi Poundy. Good stuff. Kipsiele Towett it is, AKA Gideon Moi. The sheeple wont tell the diff

But the problem is with the nyumba folks. They would soonber vote for WSR than for a MOI methinks


It will be 20 years since the Mois the generation that is there will not even know what we are talking about when we say 'Kanu days'

And think about it. Who will dare revolt when Kamwana, then an old statesman, says vote for Kipsiele?

Can you imagine the money and state resources between the two houses?
Any signs of no support would mean a harsh backlash in the valley. while another prince there would remind them of the good old days when man Toro was CIC..
Our fates n futures are sealed. unless Kipsiele is not interested and other forces come into play.I see it all mapped out.

Nyumba people are not Lakers.They will defy Uhuru and prop up their own.
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